Ain't that part of Virginia the kinda place yinz guys love?

Ain't that part of Virginia the buckle of the gun totin belt?

JAM
Former member of the NRA
(I quit them when they lost their focus)

the entire thing couldnt have happened.  this was afterall a "gun-free
zone".

I love this picture:

http://police.unlv.edu/

He was clearly a criminal because he was in possession of 2 handguns with
the serial numbers removed.  If members of the student body or faculty had
been armed and trained in the proper use of firearms and when it's
appropriate to use one then the death toll could have been much lower.

Yeah, that be the same God.  Just because people believe in God, it does not
exempt them from bad things or death.  It just has to do with what happens
to them after death.

When men stand by and allow these things to happen because of liberal
legislation, civil rights, constitutional nomenclature, gaping loopholes,
and just plain permissive attitudes, where in the world does a God figure
enter the picture who's supposed to keep everything fair and make everything
right?

BTW, I saw a lot of cops standing around for a lot of time yesterday, too.

Steve

Would that be the same god that stood by and allowed this to happen?

JAM

Most people do not understand why God permits wickedness and so blame him
for all the bad things that take place. They do not realize that man's
inclination toward badness is not because of God's will but because of the
sin of Adam. (see Rom. 5:12) They may be unaware of the existence of Satan
the Devil and of his influence on world affairs, so they ascribe to God the
vile things perpetrated by Satan. (see 1 John 5:19; Rev. 12:12) If they are
to some extent aware of these things, they may feel that God is slow about
taking action, because they do not see clearly the issue of universal
sovereignty and do not grasp the fact that God's patience down till this
time affords them an undeserved opportunity for salvation. (see Rom. 2:4; 2
Pet. 3:9) Also, they do not fully realize that God has a set time when he
will destroy forever all who practice wickedness.-see Rev. 22:10-12; 11:18;
Hab. 2:3.

If someone else committed a crime, how would you feel if you were blamed for
it? You would consider this very unjust. Justice requires that the guilty be
punished and the innocent be freed from blame. If an automobile driver
ignores a stop sign at a busy intersection and gets into a bad accident as a
result, it is not the fault of the law. If a person becomes a glutton and
gets sick from overeating, it is not the fault of the farmer who grew the
food. Then why should the heavenly Father, God, be blamed when mankind
commits wrongs? Should not the blame be put where it belongs-on the guilty
party?

Also, there is something else to consider. If we blame God for such things
as starvation from food shortages, whom do we credit for the productive
fields and orchards that produce such bountiful crops in many lands? If we
blame God for sickness, whom do we credit for the body's marvelous healing
systems? If we blame God for city slums, whom do we credit for majestic
mountains, clear lakes, delightful flowers and beautiful trees? Clearly, if
we blame God for the world's troubles and then credit him for the good
things of the earth, it is a contradiction. A loving God would not promote
both good and bad at the same time.

Who, then, is to blame for the terrible things that have happened to the
human family? Much of the blame must rest on people themselves. Human
dishonesty and frustration cause crimes. Human pride and selfishness cause
wrecked marriages, hatreds and racial prejudices. Human error and unconcern
cause pollution and filth. Human arrogance and stupidity cause wars; and
when entire nations blindly follow political leaders into those wars, then
they must share the blame for the suffering. Hunger and poverty are
primarily due to human neglect and greed. Consider: the world now spends
well over $200 billion each year on armaments. If all of this were properly
spent on growing and equally distributing food and eliminating poor housing,
think what could be done!

No, God is not to blame for the wrongs that humans themselves commit. And he
is not to blame for the wrongs blessed by clergymen who claim to serve God
but who do not speak the truth or practice it. Well, then, was there
something wrong with the way God made mankind? Did he give the human race a
bad start?

Many people think that the answer to that question is yes. 'If God cared,'
they reason, 'would not the world be a very different place?' We look around
and see a world full of war, hatred, and misery. And as individuals, we get
sick, we suffer, we lose loved ones in death. Thus, many say, 'If God cared
about us and our problems, would he not prevent such things from happening?'

Worse yet, religious teachers sometimes lead people to think that God is
hardhearted. How so? When tragedy strikes, they say that it is God's will.
In effect, such teachers blame God for the bad things that happen. Is that
the truth about God? What does the Bible really teach? James 1:13 answers:
"When under trial, let no one say: 'I am being tried by God.' For with evil
things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone." So God is never
the source of the wickedness you see in the world around you. (see Job
34:10-12) Granted, he does allow bad things to happen. But there is a big
difference between allowing something to happen and causing it.

For example, think about a wise and loving father with a grown son who is
still living at home with his parents. When the son becomes rebellious and
decides to leave home, his father does not stop him. The son pursues a bad
way of life and gets into trouble. Is the father the cause of his son's
problems? No. (see Luke 15:11-13) Similarly, God has not stopped humans when
they have chosen to pursue a bad course, but he is not the cause of the
problems that have resulted. Surely, then, it would be unfair to blame God
for all the troubles of mankind.

God has good reasons for allowing mankind to follow a bad course. As our
wise and powerful Creator, he does not have to explain his reasons to us.
Out of love, however, God does this. Rest assured that God is not
responsible for the problems we face. On the contrary, he gives us the only
hope for a solution!-see Isaiah 33:2.

Furthermore, God is holy. (see Isaiah 6:3) This means that he is pure and
clean. There is no trace of badness in him. So we can trust him completely.
That is more than we can say for humans, who sometimes become corrupt. Even
the most honest human in authority often does not have the power to undo the
damage that bad people do. But God is all-powerful. He can and will undo all
the effects that wickedness has had on mankind. When God acts, he will do so
in a way that will end evil forever!-see Psalm 37:9-11.

Klumze

I am an atheist or more agnostic, but I would say that this post was in poor
taste.  I don't know your religious beliefs, but respect others.  And,
respect how other's grieve.

the same god that stood by and allowed this to happen?

if a magical god does exist it still wouldnt be his fault.  the fault here
lies with the bad guy and the liberals who banned carry.

Damn you!  You ruined my plans for tomorrow!  I was thinking about going
postal!

Of course there is severe punishment for possesion under the influence.  Do
you think a 21 year old thinks of this?
Do me a favor, and study possible scenarios if at least 1/4 of 50 people had
a gun.  First off, a percentage will panic, and unload anywhere.  Another
percentage will unload on anything that moves.  A trained police officer at
a range of 10 feet with a handgun in a firefight will hit the intended
target an average of 2-3 times per 10 shots.  Don't believe me?  Ask a
police officer or someone who knows what they are talking about.  I am
talking a trained police officer who has experience, extensive training and
practice, and who has to requalify every year.  I am also considering the
gun man not wearing body armour, because that changes things as well.  The
problem is people either watch too much TV, or only shoot in a range under
ideal conditions, and do not understand just how inaccurate a hand gun
really is.  I am not advocating taking everyone's guns away.  I just think
the whole thought process of advocating everyone to carry a firearm is
ridiculous.  Also, something that is never talked about is the mental affect
of carrying a firearm.  I'm talking about the superiority complex some get
when carrying a firearm.  This is something that is also studied, and I
encourage others to do their own research for themselves on it.  I call it
the Deputy Dawg syndrome.  If the gunman lines up everyone as you say, then
at least this gives extra time for a trained individual to respond, as well
as give the gunman a chance to  think twice.  I'll take my chances with
this, over bullets flying wildly everyone, not giving a chance for the
situation to be controlled.
As I said, I'm not for banning all firearms, but if you want to ask the
Brits or Aussies as you state;  you will notice that these mass shootings do
not happen as near as much as here in the United States.  Do you think that
no one in Great Britian or Australia has a firearm?  Maybe, I recommend
famialiarizing yourself with the gun laws of these countries.  A private
citizen can own a firearm in these countries.
Your "mind control" argument is over reaching don't you think?  I never said
anything about mind control. With all due respect,  This sounds like the
Black Helicopter conspiracy theorists that are in militias.  I'm talking
about researching the root cause of what makes one malfunction like this.
Whether you like it or not, science will find a way to recognize these
individuals before something like this happens.