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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / April 2007

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spark plugs, or "does something need to be fixed"

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jmc - 27 Apr 2007 08:29 GMT
Got my truck back from the mechanic, they did replace my sparks.  I
asked for one, as a learning tool.  Here's what it looks like:

The outside electrode is a pretty even gray, with just the slightest bit
of yellow speckling on one side.  The tip looks a tad narrower than the
rest.

The center electrode is grey, the top isn't flat- it's markedly angled
down toward the outside electrode.

The insulator is pretty much white/very very light brown speckled.
Along the top edge it's a yellowy brown.

There's barely any corrosion at all, anywhere, but both electrodes, to
my eyes, look worn.

The threads look a bit dark to my eyes as well.

According to the web page that was posted here a while back, and another
one I googled up, my engine's running a bit warm.  One site suggested
something about vaccum leaks (it was a bike site) - and indeed my truck
still throws a P0455 "Evaporative Emission System Leak Detected".  Could
these two issues be related?

Truck runs fine, but still seems to lack a bit of the the g-force
acceleration it used to have.

Thanks for any responses.  (and TGIF!)

jmc
aarcuda69062 - 27 Apr 2007 13:52 GMT
> Got my truck back from the mechanic, they did replace my sparks.  I
> asked for one, as a learning tool.  Here's what it looks like:
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> one I googled up, my engine's running a bit warm.  One site suggested
> something about vaccum leaks (it was a bike site)

Sounds completely normal.  Worn with a light tan or gray color,
no heavy deposits.  Color of the threads is meaningless.

> - and indeed my truck
> still throws a P0455 "Evaporative Emission System Leak Detected".  Could
> these two issues be related?

Not in the least.  Whole different issue.

> Truck runs fine, but still seems to lack a bit of the the g-force
> acceleration it used to have.

Seat of the pants acceleration sensations are very misleading.
RM v2.0 - 27 Apr 2007 16:08 GMT
>> - and indeed my truck
>> still throws a P0455 "Evaporative Emission System Leak Detected".  Could
>> these two issues be related?

Isnt this usually gas cap related?
miles - 28 Apr 2007 01:15 GMT
>>> - and indeed my truck
>>> still throws a P0455 "Evaporative Emission System Leak Detected".  Could
>>> these two issues be related?
>>
> Isnt this usually gas cap related?

It can be but from my experience the tank evap hoses and manifold are
suspect.
jmc - 28 Apr 2007 15:10 GMT
Suddenly, without warning, RM v2.0 exclaimed (28-Apr-07 12:38 AM):
>>> - and indeed my truck
>>> still throws a P0455 "Evaporative Emission System Leak Detected".  Could
>>> these two issues be related?
>>
> Isnt this usually gas cap related?

Yes, but gas cap was replaced, and light reset.  Was back on very quickly.

jmc
miles - 27 Apr 2007 14:31 GMT
> still throws a P0455 "Evaporative Emission System Leak Detected".  Could
> these two issues be related?

I don't think so.  The PO455 relates to pressure in your gas tank.  It
pumps fumes back to the engine rather than released to the atmosphere.

I had that issue about once a year on my 2001 Ram.  Check all hoses
leading away from the tank.  First I had a split hose end.  Then it had
a crack on the plastic hose manifold at the canister.  I don't believe
it would cause any performance issues but if your state tests like here
in AZ they will fail it if an emissions related code is present.

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