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Kar - 27 Apr 2007 19:04 GMT
I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the reccomended
oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or 10W-30 or is there any
change with the temperatures?  Thanks.
azwiley1 - 27 Apr 2007 19:07 GMT
> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the reccomended
> oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or 10W-30 or is there any
> change with the temperatures?  Thanks.

Where do you live, what type of temps do you see?
If you want a good all season go with a 10/30 or 10/40
Kar - 27 Apr 2007 19:18 GMT
>> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
>> reccomended
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> Where do you live, what type of temps do you see?
> If you want a good all season go with a 10/30 or 10/40

I'm in the upper peninsula of Michigan.  Usually, temps aren't higher than
80-85 in the summer, maybe a week stretch of 90s.  Right now, it's about 60
with overnight lows in the 30s.  I'm going to order the manual, but I want
to get the oil changed ASAP.
azwiley1 - 27 Apr 2007 19:40 GMT
> >> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
> >> reccomended
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> with overnight lows in the 30s.  I'm going to order the manual, but I want
> to get the oil changed ASAP.

I would stay with the 10/30 or 10/40 and you won't have any concerns.
Big Al - 27 Apr 2007 20:19 GMT
> > >> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
> > >> reccomended
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>
> I would stay with the 10/30 or 10/40 and you won't have any concerns.

Don't use 10W40. Put 10W30 in it and read the manual when it comes.

Al
azwiley1 - 27 Apr 2007 20:38 GMT
> > > "azwiley1" <azwil...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
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Why are you saying not to use 10/40?
Craig C. - 27 Apr 2007 21:15 GMT
> Why are you saying not to use 10/40?

Maybe he's bitter about his taxes?

Craig C.
Roy - 27 Apr 2007 21:50 GMT
>> Why are you saying not to use 10/40?
>
> Maybe he's bitter about his taxes?

That was horrible. <VBG>

> Craig C.
azwiley1 - 27 Apr 2007 21:53 GMT
> >> Why are you saying not to use 10/40?
>
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>
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Dude, that was WEAK!  I think you need a few more nasty castle burgers!
Craig C. - 27 Apr 2007 22:04 GMT
> Dude, that was WEAK!  I think you need a few more nasty castle burgers!

Nah, that'll kill the buzz.

:-)
Craig C.
azwiley1 - 27 Apr 2007 22:05 GMT
> > Dude, that was WEAK!  I think you need a few more nasty castle burgers!
>
> Nah, that'll kill the buzz.
>
> :-)
> Craig C.

LOL
Roy - 27 Apr 2007 22:12 GMT
>> Dude, that was WEAK!  I think you need a few more nasty castle burgers!
>
> Nah, that'll kill the buzz.
>
> :-)
> Craig C.

Next we will hear from the Rabbit raving about those pos burger's.

Larry, truck race @ 5:30
azwiley1 - 27 Apr 2007 22:24 GMT
> >> Dude, that was WEAK!  I think you need a few more nasty castle burgers!
>
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>
> Larry, truck race @ 5:30

Have to miss the truck race for two reasons, I am going to look at a
house near work and there is a hockey game on.
SnoMan - 27 Apr 2007 22:13 GMT
>Why are you saying not to use 10/40?

Because it is like the last oil grade you want to use if it is
conventional. Back in the 80's they thought is was the cats meow but
they found out it is not and no new cars from Detriot are approved for
its usage and have nor been for years. It has to do with the hi VI
content of oil the can cook out and gum up a modern hot running
engine. (grant that some 10w40 are better than other quality wise but
it is best avoided) Use 10w30 spring, summer, fall and maybe 5w20 in
winter if it get below zero a lot.
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Big Al - 28 Apr 2007 07:26 GMT
> > > > "azwiley1" <azwil...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >
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>
> Why are you saying not to use 10/40?

Because it says in the manual NOT to use it. It says to use 5W30 or 10W30
depending on temperature range and specifically says not to use 10W40. At
least in my manual it says that. That's why I advised him to read the his
manual when he gets it.

Try http://www.in-n-out.com/ burgers and you'll forget about belly bombers.
They opened a new one in Tucson Thursday. The line was over three hours
long. Some guy was in the line about 20 minutes, he drove to Phoenix and
bought some, drove back and the guy that was behind him was still waiting in
line. Some people ran out of gas waiting:) They did the same thing when the
Crispy Cream opened in the same building a few years ago. They went bust and
sold the building to In an Out.

Al
Nosey - 27 Apr 2007 21:04 GMT
> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
> reccomended oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or
> 10W-30 or is there any change with the temperatures?  Thanks.

From the 2001 FSM:
http://i14.tinypic.com/2uejrk4.jpg
http://i18.tinypic.com/455mfb4.jpg
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Kar - 27 Apr 2007 21:11 GMT
>> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
>> reccomended oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or
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> http://i14.tinypic.com/2uejrk4.jpg
> http://i18.tinypic.com/455mfb4.jpg

Ken-that's what I have too but that chart shows the 3.2 and 3.5.  I couldn't
see anything on the 3.9.

All-thanks for the replies and if you have more info, this is interesting.
azwiley1 - 27 Apr 2007 21:18 GMT
> >> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
> >> reccomended oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or
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>
> All-thanks for the replies and if you have more info, this is interesting.

Well, I can tell you that when I lived in Maryland with similar temps,
I ran red line or royal purple syn oil, 15 (or 20) w-50 in the summer,
and would drop to 10/40 for winters.  Here in AZ, I run royal purple
20/50 all year in my truck and bike.
Beryl - 28 Apr 2007 00:57 GMT
punkin:

>>>>I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
>>>>reccomended oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or
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> and would drop to 10/40 for winters.  Here in AZ, I run royal purple
> 20/50 all year in my truck and bike.

Who cares?

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Denny - 28 Apr 2007 01:06 GMT
> punkin:
>>>>
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>
> Who cares?

I do. I've known Larry a long time and he's a good guy. He just likes to
f.ck with a.sholes and people who eat White Castles. <G>

Denny
Beryl - 28 Apr 2007 09:54 GMT
>>punkin:
>>
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>
> Denny

Looking back over the past month... is there something, er, 'wrong' with
azwiley1? How about with theguy? Maybe you should tell me something
about them. I didn't mean to torment any retarded person.

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Denny - 28 Apr 2007 11:36 GMT
>>>punkin:
>>>
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> azwiley1? How about with theguy? Maybe you should tell me something about
> them.<

They're both decent, red blooded Americans that I'd want on my side. If'n
there was a downside to them it's they're dislike of White Castles and
idiots. Maybe the last one ain't so bad....

> I didn't mean to torment any retarded person.<

Don't pick on yourself and you'll do fine.....

Denny

> mean people suck-nice people swallow
Beryl - 28 Apr 2007 20:32 GMT
>>>>punkin:
>>>>
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>
> Don't pick on yourself and you'll do fine.....

So I can continue on without feeling guilt. Thanks.

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Ed H. - 29 Apr 2007 07:04 GMT
Not a thing wrong with either.  Though I think you have a hard on for both.
Hmmm, I must consult with Dr. Freud on your behalf.

> Looking back over the past month... is there something, er, 'wrong' with
> azwiley1? How about with theguy? Maybe you should tell me something about
> them. I didn't mean to torment any retarded person.
theguy@whatever.net - 29 Apr 2007 16:36 GMT
>Not a thing wrong with either.  Though I think you have a hard on for both.
>Hmmm, I must consult with Dr. Freud on your behalf.

ohhh.  that is an ugly picture.  don't get any ideas barrell, your
gonna have to hit the rest stops to get any action.  sorry.  not that
i have a problem with that lifestyle, i just don't happen to "swing"
that way.

>> Looking back over the past month... is there something, er, 'wrong' with
>> azwiley1? How about with theguy? Maybe you should tell me something about
>> them. I am a retarded person and can't figure these things out on my own.
theguy@whatever.net - 28 Apr 2007 01:09 GMT
>punkin:
>>>>
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>
>Who cares?

i do barrell.  i care a lot more about that than i do about the inane
crap that you post.  in fact barrell, about the only thing that you
post about is snotroll and how smart he is.  well, actually now that i
think about it, you don't post about how smart he is.  you just post
that he is not any more stupid than anyone else.

you are still wrong though.  he is much more stupid.

and barrell, you need to branch out more.  post about things besides
snotroll.  he is pretty much a lost cause.  not because i (dumb guy)
don't think he knows sh.t and not because pumkin (sorry roy) thinks
so, but just because he is.  he has earned it.  he has simply out
stupid'd everyone.  if that impresses you..........well, i am not
surprised.  just wondering though.........are you his son or daughter?
i'm just wondering because you defend him even when it is beyond
ridiculous.  if you are not, why do you feel that you have to come to
his defense?  do you not think that he is capable of defending
himself?  isn't that a much worse comment than anything that pumpkin
(sorry roy), i (the dumb guy) or larry (can't remember what you called
him, sorry barrell) have said?  i mean, why would you be so
premsumptive to think that you have to chase windmills and come to his
aid?  the only reason that i can think of is that you don't think that
he is able to defend himself and you are so emotional over that that
you feel that you must rush to save his honor.  wow.  that is really a
low blow barrel; to snotroll i mean.  you have slammed him more than
any of us could ever do.  i would say thank you but you probably owe
him an apology.
azwiley1 - 28 Apr 2007 03:14 GMT
> punkin:
>>>>
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>
> Who cares?

Point in case once again that you are a cocksucking a.shole.  No one was
f.cking talking to you, so if you can't do anything but stir sh.t (which is
ALL YOU DO) stay the f.ck off my replies.  As to who cares, I am very sure
the OP does as I, unlike you, have provided him/her some useful information
in answer to the post.  Hell, even your hero Snoman posted an answer in
replay that in no way was an instigation of problems.
Beryl - 28 Apr 2007 07:19 GMT
punkin:
> "Beryl" <terrapin@coolmail.com> wrote in message
>>punkin:
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> f.cking talking to you, so if you can't do anything but stir sh.t (which is
> ALL YOU DO) stay the f.ck off my replies.

I'm playing your own game, punkin. Don't be a crybaby! I'm the new toy,
you guys were all going to have lots of fun playing with me. What happened?

> As to who cares, I am very sure
> the OP does as I, unlike you, have provided him/her some useful information
> in answer to the post.  Hell, even your hero Snoman posted an answer in
> replay that in no way was an instigation of problems.

You didn't even say which irrelevant vehicles you were talking about.
All we know is that you're in Arizona now, with some unidentified truck
and bike.
You've given the OP no useful information, just uninformed advice.

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azwiley1 - 28 Apr 2007 17:40 GMT
> I'm playing your own game, punkin. Don't be a crybaby! I'm the new toy,
> you guys were all going to have lots of fun playing with me. What
> happened?

You're not playing "my game" becuase there has never, in all the years that
I have been here, been a time where I have just tagged on to someone's post
like you did with such vial disdain.  Even to Snomans post have I have ever
just done what you have.  So, if you wish to "play games" why don't you do
it the same way, if you cliam to be doing it "my way"

>> As to who cares, I am very sure the OP does as I, unlike you, have
>> provided him/her some useful information in answer to the post.  Hell,
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> bike.
> You've given the OP no useful information, just uninformed advice.

Really, I have not give the user any valuable information?  How do you
figure?  Better yet, what have you provided to anyone that was useful?  I
provided him information pertaining to specific oil grades used in different
climates, which is just as if not more so important the what vehicle it is
in.  But now you are playing the Steve B game of being an a.shole as it was
your cocksucking friend that started the whole sh.t about an "unidentified
.357"  go back and read it and now you are playing the same thing.

You know, you want to stick around and play the Great Snoman Defender, be
our guest, but if you are going to, do it in the same manner that he has
been jumped on repeatedly, for posting dangerous information, not just
because you want to be a douche bag.  But then you really can't change what
you are can you.
Ed H. - 29 Apr 2007 06:43 GMT
Your point is?

> punkin:
>> "Beryl" <terrapin@coolmail.com> wrote in message
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> bike.
> You've given the OP no useful information, just uninformed advice.
Beryl - 29 Apr 2007 08:43 GMT
> Your point is?

Kar should know that my Dad used to put 30 weight in the Corvair. Is
that useful information too?

>>punkin:
>>>"Beryl" <terrapin@coolmail.com> wrote in message
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>>bike.
>>You've given the OP no useful information, just uninformed advice.

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edward ohare - 28 Apr 2007 06:51 GMT
>Ken-that's what I have too but that chart shows the 3.2 and 3.5.  I couldn't
>see anything on the 3.9.
>
>All-thanks for the replies and if you have more info, this is interesting.

My 2000 Dakota owner's manual says for the 2.5, 3.9, and 5.9, 10W30 is
preferred and acceptable at all temperatures above 0 F.  It says 5W30
should be used if it is expected temperatures will be below 0F but not
over 100 F.

They list 5W30 as preferred for the 4.7, and acceptable at all
temperatures under 100 F.
Roy - 27 Apr 2007 21:21 GMT
>> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
>> reccomended oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or
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> http://i14.tinypic.com/2uejrk4.jpg
> http://i18.tinypic.com/455mfb4.jpg
You folks talking about oil and what to use and not to use brought this to
mind. Years ago 10w-30 or 40 were just fine. After the non stop trip to Fl.
I checked the oil, actually checked a couple of times enroute. Anyway down
1/2 quart so I looked in the om to see what to get so I could add, 0w-40
Mobil1 at $5.90 a quart. Seems a whole lot thin to me, but that's what they
want in it. So with all the bs about warranty claims I'm not about to put
anything else in it.
azwiley1 - 27 Apr 2007 21:27 GMT
> >> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
> >> reccomended oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or
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> want in it. So with all the bs about warranty claims I'm not about to put
> anything else in it.

How could using a different viscosity oil other then what the om
RECOMMENDS void or in anyway create an issue with the warrany?  Mike,
care to chim in here?
Roy - 27 Apr 2007 21:59 GMT
>> >> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
>> >> reccomended oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or
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> RECOMMENDS void or in anyway create an issue with the warrany?  Mike,
> care to chim in here?

Wipe a bearing with a oil that is thicker and they could claim restricted
flow. I know the 6.1 hemi in the charger has piston squirter's, maybe they
are the reason.

With my Z06, GM would void a transmission if it did not have the factory
recommended stuff in it. I switched to red line and had to take it out,
Story was it was too slippery and the syncros needed more friction to work
properly. The ZF box was a unit exchange. If you screwed up you ate the 6K
for the new tranny.

Not nice but it is what it is. If my engine goes south, I kinda want the
warranty to fall back on. There aren't many of these 6.1 in the bone yard.
azwiley1 - 27 Apr 2007 22:03 GMT
> >> "Nosey" <kfre...@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
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With the trans, I can understand that, using red line, they have a
friction modifier that you could have used and it would have fixed
your issue.
Roy - 27 Apr 2007 22:10 GMT
>> >> "Nosey" <kfre...@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
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> friction modifier that you could have used and it would have fixed
> your issue.

That was discussed at length, to no avail. GM builds and sells ya a friggin'
race car then hand cuffs ya.

At least the SRT engineers respond to problems and help to resolve them.
Roy - 27 Apr 2007 22:32 GMT
>> >> "Nosey" <kfre...@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
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> friction modifier that you could have used and it would have fixed
> your issue.

I was wrong, the truck race is Sat .
azwiley1 - 27 Apr 2007 22:41 GMT
> >> "azwiley1" <azwil...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
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> - Show quoted text -

I am more looking forward to Sunday, as (IIRC) they are running the
POSCOT.
Roy - 27 Apr 2007 23:20 GMT
>> >> "azwiley1" <azwil...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
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> I am more looking forward to Sunday, as (IIRC) they are running the
> POSCOT.

I didn't know that. i thought they were keeping them off the super
speedway's.

This new isp down here is real slow with the news server.
Denny - 28 Apr 2007 01:00 GMT
>>> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
>>> reccomended oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or
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> what they want in it. So with all the bs about warranty claims I'm not
> about to put anything else in it.

Use the 0w40 and quit thinking about it. That's not an ordinary
run-of-the-mill motor you have. I've always ran synthetic in non-stock
motors that I've play with.

Denny
Roy - 28 Apr 2007 01:32 GMT
>>>> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
>>>> reccomended oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or
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>
> Denny

That's what I'm useing. Actually it is a pretty freaky car and engine.
Especially for a 4 door.<G>
They put a lot of thought into it.

Roy
samstone@aol.com - 28 Apr 2007 01:40 GMT
>They put a lot of thought into it.
>
>Roy

but not a spare
Chris Thompson - 28 Apr 2007 02:18 GMT
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:40:57 +0000, samstone wrote:

>>They put a lot of thought into it.
>>
>>Roy
>>
> but not a spare

tires don't go flat anymore

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Nosey - 28 Apr 2007 13:33 GMT
> Anyway down 1/2 quart so I looked in the om to see
> what to get so I could add, 0w-40 Mobil1 at $5.90 a quart. Seems a
> whole lot thin to me, but that's what they want in it. So with all
> the bs about warranty claims I'm not about to put anything else in it.

Using the wrong viscosity oil screws up the operation of the MDS system. You
/do/ have the MDS Hemi, don't you?
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Roy - 28 Apr 2007 14:04 GMT
>> Anyway down 1/2 quart so I looked in the om to see
>> what to get so I could add, 0w-40 Mobil1 at $5.90 a quart. Seems a
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> Using the wrong viscosity oil screws up the operation of the MDS system.
> You /do/ have the MDS Hemi, don't you?

No. What is used in the Charger SRT is a 6.1 425HP engine. They made a lot
of changes to it other than the size. Seems a lot of different material as
well. As a follow up, the problems with the anti freeze break down at this
stage has found to be the temp and reaction to these materials, as the same
anti freeze is used in the Cummins with no problems. The STR engineers are
now recomending a flush and a additional additive to prevent the problem.

Roy
Nosey - 29 Apr 2007 00:53 GMT
>>> Anyway down 1/2 quart so I looked in the om to see
>>> what to get so I could add, 0w-40 Mobil1 at $5.90 a quart. Seems a
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> additional additive to prevent the problem.
> Roy

Oops. I thought you had a Magnum.
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Tom Lawrence - 29 Apr 2007 01:34 GMT
> Oops. I thought you had a Magnum.

Nope....  SIG.

Oh.... wait....

:^)
Roy - 29 Apr 2007 02:02 GMT
>> Oops. I thought you had a Magnum.
>
> Nope....  SIG.

Well yes, a 239 and a 226

> Oh.... wait....

> :^)
Ed H. - 29 Apr 2007 06:42 GMT
LOL, LMFAO.  Stop it, I gonna pee.

>> Oops. I thought you had a Magnum.
>
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>
> :^)
Ed H. - 29 Apr 2007 06:54 GMT
Oops.
!
.
.

> LOL, LMFAO.  Stop it, I gonna pee.
>
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>>
>> :^)
Beryl - 28 Apr 2007 09:53 GMT
> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the reccomended
> oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or 10W-30 or is there any
> change with the temperatures?  Thanks.

My 2001 Ram Owner's Manual covers the 3.9L V-6, the 5.2L and 5.9L V-8s,
and the 8.0L V-10.

Page 195 says "SAE 10W-30 engine oil is preferred for use in all Dodge
trucks."

There's a chart showing 10W-30 for temperatures of 0 degrees F. to
beyond 100 degrees F.
5W-30 is for 32 degrees F. and below.
The two viscosities overlap between 0 and 32.

Ignore azwiley1's bad and harmful advice about using 10W-40.

I use conventional 10W-30 in my 5.2, either Castrol or Valvoline.
Eastern U.S. paraffin-base oils (e.g. Pennzoil and Quaker State)
reportedly gum up engines according to folks that refer to them as
"varnish", like in "I wouldn't put that varnish in my engine."

Synthetic oil was developed for hellishly hot turbine engines, like in
your Beechcraft King Air. It's "better" oil, but likely a waste of money
in your piston engine.

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azwiley1 - 28 Apr 2007 17:46 GMT
>> I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
>> reccomended oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or 10W-30
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>
> Ignore azwiley1's bad and harmful advice about using 10W-40.

Bad and harmful advice?  HA!! You are a f.cking hoot.  Lets see, in my 97
Ram 5.2 I ran 10/40 for over 150k with never a problem, in my 99 Silverado
5.3 I ran 10/40 and now run 20/50 syn oil with never a problem, in my 93
Shadow 600 I run 10/40 in the colder months and 20/50 in the warmer months
(both syn) with never a problem.  You are failing to understand what you
posted yourself, that the grades in the OM are RECOMMENDED, that DOES NOT
mean you have to use it, that does not mean you will void your warranty and
it damn sure as hell does not mean you will damage your engine.

Again, if you will to play the game, do it in the same manner that it is
done to your hero and lover.  It also means that you do it to all "players"
as there are many more in both here and the Chevy group that have been
hammering him and more then I EVER have.  You just have a hard on for me,
and sorry to say, I do not swing that way.
azwiley1 - 28 Apr 2007 17:51 GMT
> Bad and harmful advice?  HA!! You are a f.cking hoot.  Lets see, in my 97
> Ram 5.2 I ran 10/40 for over 150k with never a problem, in my 99 Silverado
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> mean you have to use it, that does not mean you will void your warranty
> and it damn sure as hell does not mean you will damage your engine.

FYI the Silverado is rolling 200k very soon, so obviously there is
absofuckinglutely NOTHING harmful about running oils that are not in the
list of RECOMMENDED oils in the OM, but to each his own, do what you want.
Kar - 28 Apr 2007 11:14 GMT
>I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the reccomended
>oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or 10W-30 or is there any
>change with the temperatures?  Thanks.

OK-I have to spill my guts.  I put 3.9.  It's 5.9.  I saw a first on usenet
in another reply where someone admitted making a mistake.  After reading my
own sorry excuse for a post, I'm admitting one too.  You folks have a very
interesting group going here and I like it.  Lots of good info just on this
post so please keep passing the knowledge.  I don't know what's going on
with the burger joints but I will find out.  Also, good info about the oil.
Thanks again.
Chris Thompson - 29 Apr 2007 01:31 GMT
>>I just bought a 2001 Ram, 3.9L.  No owners manual.  What is the
>>reccomended oil viscosity for this time of year?  Is it 5W-30 or 10W-30
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> what's going on with the burger joints but I will find out.  Also, good
> info about the oil. Thanks again.

you don't want to find out about white castle...a overstuffed rabbit (I'm
being kind mind you Denny) will want to take you there.  and you don't
want to try to digest, much less ingest that stuff. trust me.

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