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Roy - 05 May 2007 15:04 GMT
Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT or STAR
that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1 engines? A guy
named Bryan Moores, a "tech advisor" say's that the temp fix is a flush and
refill with a additive. Have you a copy of that notice or advisory? Does it
exist?
The question that begs to be asked it what is the long term effect of this
putty like stuff becomeing trapped in the cooling system? Plugged heater
core or radiator, premature water pump failure result5ing in serious damage
to a expensive engine.
This problem seems to be isolated to the 6.1 used in the SRT's only.

Any light you or info you can provide is appreciated.

Roy
Mike Simmons - 06 May 2007 00:44 GMT
> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT or
> STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1 engines? A
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>and there aren't any.  I did a search on STAR online and came up with a
>blank.  What problem are you having?

Mike
Roy - 06 May 2007 02:06 GMT
>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT or
>> STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1 engines?
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>
> Mike

What is happening with the 6.1 is the antifreeze is breaking down. At first
it is a smell like ammonia, then come these little white flakes that after a
period of time they turn into a white putty like paste. I'm at the ammonia
stage with the Charger.
The folks at SRT are aware of the problem and have stated a flush and fill
with fresh anti freeze with a additive is the temp fix. They are going with
the extreme temps these engines run at as a cause of the breakdown. Also
they have mentioned a bad batch of anti freeze. But that doesn't seem to be
a actual cause as the build dates range from 11/05 to current.
A guy at the Charger forum put a coolant filter in and ran it for a few days
then cut it open. It was a mess. If you like I could send you a pic of it.
This fellow Bryan Moores is supposed to be somebody pretty well up the
ladder, I believe he is with SRT but I could be wrong.

You won't find a TSB as the permanent fix hasn't been finalized.  But there
is supposed to be a memo out on it.

How was Dega?

Roy
Mike Simmons - 06 May 2007 02:23 GMT
>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT or
>>> STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1 engines?
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>
> Roy

Hmmmm... I haven't seen a prob yet and we have a good many SRT's on the
street.  I'll check with our zone tech advisor on Wednesday and get back to
you.

Talladega was great!  A long drive, but it was worth it.  I would have liked
to see the Cup race end in a checker but it weren't to be.

Mike
Roy - 06 May 2007 02:39 GMT
>>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT or
>>>> STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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> street.  I'll check with our zone tech advisor on Wednesday and get back
> to you.

Anything you can find I'd appreciate hearing about.

> Talladega was great!  A long drive, but it was worth it.  I would have
> liked to see the Cup race end in a checker but it weren't to be.

That happens. Be thankful you didn't go to Richmond for tonights race<G>

Roy
> Mike
Denny - 06 May 2007 11:32 GMT
>>>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT or
>>>>> STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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> Roy
>> Mike

Looks like ole Mike has the bases covered. I guess I'm just a day late and a
dollar short... :(

Denny
Roy - 06 May 2007 15:34 GMT
>>>>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT
>>>>>> or STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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> Looks like ole Mike has the bases covered. I guess I'm just a day late and
> a dollar short... :(

Nah, you aren't. Check your email. I sent ya a pic of a cut away coolant
filter. That was only used for a day and was pretty much used up. A few have
pulled heads and found it to be like drywall mud in some of the passages.
One cars radiator was 45% plugged with it.

As much as I really like this car, if i DC fails to get thing's straightend
out it is going before the intial warranty is up. Actually DC should extend
the warranty on the 6.1 engines to anything coolant related, engine and
transmission anyway. It isn't like there are a whole lot of them out there.

Roy
> Denny
Roy - 06 May 2007 18:02 GMT
>>>>>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT
>>>>>>> or STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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> Roy
>> Denny

Did the pic make it??

Roy
Denny - 06 May 2007 22:14 GMT
>>>>>>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT
>>>>>>>> or STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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>
> Roy
Yep. I checked my email before the group. That is one gooey looking filter..

Denny
Mike Simmons - 06 May 2007 17:01 GMT
>>>>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT
>>>>>> or STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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> Looks like ole Mike has the bases covered. I guess I'm just a day late and
> a dollar short... :(

Sooo.... what else is new?

;^)

Mike

> Denny
Denny - 06 May 2007 22:17 GMT
>>>>>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT
>>>>>>> or STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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>
> Mike

That was harsh..  I'm hurt.... I hope your seat heaters won't shut off for
the summer...     Take that!!      <BG>

Denny
Roy - 07 May 2007 01:20 GMT
>>>>>>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT
>>>>>>>> or STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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>
> Denny

Wow!! That's hitting him right where he lives.

Roy
Chris Thompson - 07 May 2007 02:23 GMT
>>> Looks like ole Mike has the bases covered. I guess I'm just a day late
>>> and a dollar short... :(
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>
> Denny

Are you sure he doesn't run them year round anyways?

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Roy - 10 May 2007 18:38 GMT
>>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT or
>>>> STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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> street.  I'll check with our zone tech advisor on Wednesday and get back
> to you.

Mike,

Any luck with the zone tech advisor??

Roy
azwiley1 - 10 May 2007 20:13 GMT
> >>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT or
> >>>> STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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>
> - Show quoted text -

He's too busy playing w/his seats Roy.
Roy - 10 May 2007 20:51 GMT
>> >>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT
>> >>>> or
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>
> He's too busy playing w/his seats Roy.

I have them too. Don't know why I'll need them here. But up north, with my
skinny a.s, they are nice to have.
also I'm not going to bust his chops, not while I'm looking for a favor
anyway.<BFG>
Mike Simmons - 11 May 2007 01:49 GMT
>>> >>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT
>>> >>>> or
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> anyway.<BFG>
>smart move....

;^)

Mike
Mike Simmons - 11 May 2007 01:48 GMT
>>>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT or
>>>>> STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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>
> Roy

Not yet.  I'm going to the training center of Wednesday for a zone advisory
meeting so I will see him there.

Mike
Roy - 11 May 2007 02:12 GMT
>>>>>> Have either of you folks come across anything from the folks at SRT
>>>>>> or STAR that addresses a fix for the antifreeze problem in the 6.1
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>
> Mike

Thanks Mike, I appreciate your efforts.
This Bryan Moores from DC keeps on turning up with some info.

Roy
 
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