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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / May 2007Diesel prices dropping
Anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline? To wonder how long this will last. Now who was saying having gasonline engine is cheaper? So for a while, I am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. How smug. > Anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than > gasonline? > > To wonder how long this will last. Your guess is as good as mine. However, I believe that we will see this trend continue. Although current gasoline demand is three times higher than diesel, the diesel demand is growing at *twice* the rate of gasoline. Refineries are trying to prepare themselves for the future. The current prices may be a result of increased diesel refining. Here is an article I read in The Chicago Tribune: http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0704060318apr07,0,2814321.story?track=rss Personally, I still prefer bio-diesel. Much cleaner ... and towel-heads don't get any of my money ... Craig C. >Your guess is as good as mine. However, I believe that we will see this >trend continue. Do not get your hopes up. It was a mild winter tempature wise on the average for nation so heating oil demand was lower this winter (which is also number 2) and it can fall a bit a few months after winter but rest assured that it will climb back up withing a few months and skyrocket this winter regardless of what gas does. This past winter we averaged 1.95 to 2.10 for gas and diesel was 2.69 to 2.99. Diesel will never stay "cheap" relative to gas for any long period of time again. I have heated with oil for over 30 years so I have been buying "diesel" so to speak longer than many others. Up until about 4 years ago I could always get oil cheap in august when there was a surplus and some distributors would lock in price for whole month (I have paided as little as 39 cents a gallon). Price shot up several years ago and you can no longer count on august oe any other month to be lowest anymore. Right now 2007 winter futures has diesel between 2.75 and 3 bucks a gallon after taxes. I expect it to exceed 3 bucks easily this winter. Buying several hundred gallons at once is a bit painfull when heating oil is 2.50 a gallon and more. Last october I managed to buy some for 2.09/gal which was a deal by todays standards. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com >>Your guess is as good as mine. However, I believe that we will see this >>trend continue. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > is also number 2) and it can fall a bit a few months after winter but > rest assured that it will climb back up withing a few months and Huh? I seem to recall massive blizzards locking in people for days. > skyrocket this winter regardless of what gas does. This past winter we > averaged 1.95 to 2.10 for gas and diesel was 2.69 to 2.99. Diesel will [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com >Huh? I seem to recall massive blizzards locking in people for days. There was in a few areas but as a whole it was not a cold winter in northeast long term and overall demand for season was down below expectations. ( the rockies area around Denver does notuse much heating oil so cold there does not have much effect on prices of fuel oil) Had it been a early cold and long winter, Deisel would have hit 3.50 to 4.00/gallon last winter. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com >>Your guess is as good as mine. However, I believe that we will see this >>trend continue. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >----------------- >TheSnoMan.com I guess your just a baby. I can remember $0.17 a gallon! beekeep >> Anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than >> gasonline? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > The current prices may be a result of increased diesel refining. Here is > an article I read in The Chicago Tribune: Interesting story. I recall reading how in Europe 50% of oil refined is diesel 25% gasoline, while in the US it's 50% gasoline, 25% diesel. Looks like they may be changing it to to get equal amounts of fuel, which hopefully keep prices down. > http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0704060318apr07,0,2814321.story?track=rss > > Personally, I still prefer bio-diesel. Much cleaner ... and towel-heads > don't get any of my money ... True..but at this time I temporarily live in an apartment and no real place to brew the stuff. Though I could proably do it here since it's a small place and owner never comes here for anything unless he has to. > Craig C. > Interesting story. I recall reading how in Europe 50% of oil refined is > diesel 25% gasoline, while in the US it's 50% gasoline, 25% diesel. My experience would suggest that this is true. I spent quite a bit of time in the UK last year. The *majority* of the passenger cars and trucks I saw and rode in were diesel. The car I had rented was a Citroen C3. Diesel powered, 5 speed. Got about 60 mpg if memory serves. > True..but at this time I temporarily live in an apartment and no real place > to brew the stuff. Though I could proably do it here since it's a small > place and owner never comes here for anything unless he has to. Nah ... don't brew your own unless you have the room. You can by it "pre-brewed". I purchase mine from Loves Truck Stops. Some of them carry "BioWillie". I have also seen an Exxon station advertise B20, although I don't know their source of bio. BioWillie is supposedly soybean bio (the best, IMHO). http://www.biowillieusa.com/ Craig C. >> Interesting story. I recall reading how in Europe 50% of oil refined is >> diesel 25% gasoline, while in the US it's 50% gasoline, 25% diesel. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I saw and rode in were diesel. The car I had rented was a Citroen C3. > Diesel powered, 5 speed. Got about 60 mpg if memory serves. Last time I was in Europe the cars were still spewing out lead. Since the fuels started getting heavily taxed, I can see why they switched. >> True..but at this time I temporarily live in an apartment and no real >> place to brew the stuff. Though I could proably do it here since it's a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.biowillieusa.com/ Been to those places. Not all places have it all the time. Though the Love's near Dallas does. I recall pulling in to buy some last year. 10 lanes and 5 were BioWillie. When I pulled in I was the only one there. By the time I pulled out the dino diesel lanes were full with trucks in waiting. That was the first time I put it in my truck. Now I see why the avoided it. MPG decreased by 1 MPG, however I saw a magazine article from 2 months ago. One of those diesel pickup truck mags. The showed some study that was done that showed torque increase with biodiesel. > Craig C. >> Personally, I still prefer bio-diesel. Much cleaner ... and >> towel-heads don't get any of my money ... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a small place and owner never comes here for anything unless he has > to. I make my own biodiesel and I wouldn't do it in an apartment. Where do you live? There may be a biodiesel co-op in your area. See: http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/698605551  SignatureKen >>> Personally, I still prefer bio-diesel. Much cleaner ... and >>> towel-heads don't get any of my money ... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > See: > http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/698605551 Thanks for the link. No groups here as I suspected, though I did see someone interested in it from 2002 (maybe moved away) and 2006. I would not be making it IN the apartment but behind it.. > Anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than > gasonline? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So for a while, I am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. How > smug. Last year you wouldn't have been so smug. Gas was cheaper. Now that I think about it has diesel dropped that much from last year? Thinking about it Diesel was at about the price gas is this year. >> Anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than >> gasonline? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > think about it has diesel dropped that much from last year? Thinking about > it Diesel was at about the price gas is this year. yes, and was the same price as unleaded plus, but I was still getting ahead with more BTUs > Anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than > gasonline? Queue the Sno-Troll in 3... 2... 1... Sorry Tom, he beat your countdown by a few minuets. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > > Anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than > > gasonline? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > 1... It will last the summer as demand for it is much lower then unless of course too many people start buying diesel powered vehicles which will increase both demand and the price. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > Anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than > gasonline? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So for a while, I am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. How > smug. > It will last the summer as demand for it is much lower then unless of > course > too many people start buying diesel powered vehicles which will increase > both demand and the price. Fascinating prognostication, Carnac. Tell me - where in the sky will the Sun appear tomorrow morning? > Fascinating prognostication, Carnac. Tell me - where in the sky will the > Sun appear tomorrow morning? I have no idea where you live but I will predict your weather. It will be increasing darkness by nightfall and gradually becoming lighter by morning. > > It will last the summer as demand for it is much lower then unless of > > course [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Fascinating prognostication, Carnac. Tell me - where in the sky will the > Sun appear tomorrow morning? I normally charge for such information but for you..... I predict that the sun will appear in the eastern horizon. SignatureIf at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving > Anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than > gasonline? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Now who was saying having gasonline engine is cheaper? So for a while, I > am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. How smug. funny thing around here is the diesel price hasn't moved....it seems to be the gasoline price that has jumped way up. (my wife's observation that i cant argue with cause i haven't payed that close of attention to gasoline prices) Signature____________________________________________ Chris 05 CTD 06 Liberty CRD >> Anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than >> gasonline? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > cant argue with cause i haven't payed that close of attention to gasoline > prices) The prices here waited till gasoline rose, then diesel rose along with it for a few days then dropped. I can get #2 diesel at Murphey USA/Wal-Mart for $2.51.9 while gasonline remains in the $2.7x range > The prices here waited till gasoline rose, then diesel rose along with it > for a few days then dropped. > > I can get #2 diesel at Murphey USA/Wal-Mart for $2.51.9 while gasonline > remains in the $2.7x range Las Vegas: Unleaded $3.21 Diesel $2.99 California, near $4 >> The prices here waited till gasoline rose, then diesel rose along with it >> for a few days then dropped. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > California, near $4 Part of the reason for cheap fuel prices where I am at is due to closeness of Mexico. Just run across the border for fuel under $2 a gallon. For most vehicles with only 15 gallon fuel tank that not be worth it, but in my case with 55 gallons, certainly worth it. Central coast of California, where the Prices are usually higher than what I hear on the radio as being the highest (usually Hawaii): Reg. Unleaded $3.499 (Paid today) Diesel -about $3 I've seen some gas stations upto $3.64 for reg. unleaded. I don't pay much attention to diesel cost except as a curiosity. A co-worker has a diesel Chevy with a 34 gal. tank and 105 gal. transfer tank in the bed. He lives in Oregon, works a week on/week off schedule and doesn't buy diesel in Ca, because he can make the round trip with what he carries. Anyway, yesterday he said it's about $2.50 in Oregon. >> The prices here waited till gasoline rose, then diesel rose along with it >> for a few days then dropped. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > California, near $4 > Anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than > gasonline? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So for a while, I am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. How > smug. Not 'round here - central CO and southern WY. Diesel seems to have remained about the same. Gasoline has risen to about that price. Signature.boB 2006 FXDI hot rod 2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver 1965 FFR Cobra - 427W EFI, Damn Fast. |
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