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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / June 2007

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Royal Purple - zinc

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Brewster - 06 Jun 2007 01:39 GMT
Royal Purple motor oils - all of them - are fully "API certified" (unlike
Amsoil), which means there is NO zinc or ZDDP in the oil that would be bad
for catalytic converters. That is a specific requirement for API
certification.
Midlant - 06 Jun 2007 02:35 GMT
That doesn't mean it doesn't perform to those levels, but for warranty
purposes, this is not an API certified product. To be fair, some Amsoil
products are API certified and they do have the correct labelling, but
their top-tier products do not. The issue of fake API labelling and
non-compliance has caused such a stir at Amsoil that they had to put an
entire page up on their site dedicated to answering this particular
question. You can find it here. Basically what it boils down to is
money. Amsoil don't want to pay the $300,000 it can cost for an API
certification of a single oil formulation, and getting API certification
can limit them to single vendors for some of the raw products they use.
If those vendors put their prices up or go out of business, Amsoil need
to either pass the increase in price on to the consumer, or go through
the whole API thing again from scratch.
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miles - 06 Jun 2007 02:52 GMT
> TBasically what it boils down to is
> money. Amsoil don't want to pay the $300,000 it can cost for an API
> certification

Thats been their excuse for years and its hogwash.  There are scores of
oil companies out each with new formulas every year and they all pay for
API certification.  Why won't Amsoil?  Having API certification would be
a selling point.  They'd make back their investment just like so many
other oil companies out there.  Amsoil is hiding something.  Money isn't
the issue.
Brewster - 06 Jun 2007 03:36 GMT
>> TBasically what it boils down to is
>> money. Amsoil don't want to pay the $300,000 it can cost for an API
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> other oil companies out there.  Amsoil is hiding something.  Money isn't
> the issue.

Exactly.
Amsoil and their pushers have been saying this crap for years - they always
have an answer why they are not API certified. Yet - everywhere you find a
discussion of oils, or someone asks about oils, some Amsoil pusher will
push his sales pitch and denigrate othwer oils that DO meet API specs.
Anyone using non-spec oil in their vehicle is a nitwit - kiss your warranty
goodbye.

Amsoli currently has ONE product that meets API specs. If they can do one -
why not their major product?
 
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