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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / June 2007

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Replacing a condenser

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Yabahoobs - 17 Jun 2007 03:36 GMT
...On my 1998 Dodge Ram 1500 Sport.  W/ the 5.9 (5.8 ?) L V8.  80 K
mileage...

I was told to expect MUCHO dinero for the repair.  Is it worth getting
a used one of the internet, and having the local Dodge dealership
install it ?

I'm trying to save as much money as possible.  I am trying to sell the
truck and get as much as possible for it.  In a trade in, It was
appraised at 5000 with the broken condenser.  I scoffed at that and
left.

Any thoughts ? Obviously I can get WAY more for this truck if the A/C
works.  Reputable sites out there for a condenser ?  I was also told
the blower SHOULD be repalced if the condenser is being replaced...I
dunno about that...Seems fishy.

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks guys.
Yabahoobs - 17 Jun 2007 03:46 GMT
> ...On my 1998 Dodge Ram 1500 Sport.  W/ the 5.9 (5.8 ?) L V8.  80 K
> mileage...
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>
> Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks guys.

Let me also say that I was never told by the DODGE dealership (that
services my truck) that the condenser was broken.  HOWEVER, they DID
tell me the Freon (or whatever the ecofriendly stuff is called) needed
to be recharged.  So I went ahead and them put two pounds of the stuff
in.  And the A/C STILL does NOT work.  So when these guys at the
dealership I was trying to do the trade in at told me the condenser
was broken...I just assumed it was true, cuz the freon recharge didn't
work.  Just thought that would help...
Tom Lawrence - 17 Jun 2007 05:37 GMT
> Let me also say that I was never told by the DODGE dealership (that
> services my truck) that the condenser was broken.  HOWEVER, they DID
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> was broken...I just assumed it was true, cuz the freon recharge didn't
> work.  Just thought that would help...

Did they put in a tracer dye, and saw it somewhere along the condenser?  Or
are they just guessing?  It's far more likely for an evaporator to leak than
the condenser (no real mechanical reason for this, just many more people
have suffered evaporator leaks).

If it is truly a leaking condenser, then an aftermarket replacement is
around $150.  Labor to swap the condenser shouldn't be more than an hour (as
compared to an evaporator, which takes almost the whole day).  So you're
looking at between $200 and $225, plus the cost of the refrigerant - maybe
$300 total, $350 tops.
Roy - 17 Jun 2007 17:07 GMT
>> ...On my 1998 Dodge Ram 1500 Sport.  W/ the 5.9 (5.8 ?) L V8.  80 K
>> mileage...
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>> Any thoughts ? Obviously I can get WAY more for this truck if the A/C
>> works.

Middle for that road truck should be around 7K retail. A dealer won't give
you that on a trade in. 5K well........
miles - 17 Jun 2007 17:18 GMT
>  Middle for that road truck should be around 7K retail. A dealer won't give
> you that on a trade in. 5K well........

In my experience for a vehicle that would sell for 7K on the street from
a private party, it would fetch 4K-5K on trade.  That would the
blackbook (wholesale auction) price.  They wont give more in trade than
they could get the same vehicle from the auction for.

My examples:
1993 Nissan 4x4 truck.  Trade offered at $3500, sold myself for $6500.
1993 Nissan Altima.  Trade $3000, sold for $5500
1998 Isuzu Amigo.  Trade $4000, sold for $7500.
2001 Dodge QC Ram.  Trade $9800, sold for $12,500

Trading in a vehicle is a lousy deal.  Most people I've heard that said
they got a great high trade in did so because they overpaid on the new
vehicle paying close to MSRP rather than close to invoice.

In some states such as Arizona tax on the new vehicle is computed on the
difference of the new vehicle price minus the trade in.  So some savings
can be made there for a trade in that is worth quite a bit.
Yabahoobs - 17 Jun 2007 18:55 GMT
> >  Middle for that road truck should be around 7K retail. A dealer won't give
> > you that on a trade in. 5K well........
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> difference of the new vehicle price minus the trade in.  So some savings
> can be made there for a trade in that is worth quite a bit.

Thanks Guys.

I live in Cache County Utah.  Trucks are a form of currency here, and
are ALWAYS at a premium, fetching a premium price.  I will bring my
truck back to my local Dodge service center and tell them the freon
charge didn't work, and tell them to inspect the Evaporator core and
condenser.  I will then purchase the aftermarket part, and have them
replace it.

After that, and a solid buffing / wax job...I think I could easily gte
8000 + for th etruck.  I've seen Ram 1500's with nearly double my
mileage sell for similar prices...at least aorund here.
Roy - 17 Jun 2007 18:59 GMT
>> >  Middle for that road truck should be around 7K retail. A dealer won't
>> > give
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> 8000 + for th etruck.  I've seen Ram 1500's with nearly double my
> mileage sell for similar prices...at least aorund here.
Roy - 17 Jun 2007 19:01 GMT
>> >  Middle for that road truck should be around 7K retail. A dealer won't
>> > give
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> 8000 + for th etruck.  I've seen Ram 1500's with nearly double my
> mileage sell for similar prices...at least aorund here.

That truck has to be a 4X4 and flawless to bring that around here
Greg O - 17 Jun 2007 19:41 GMT
> I live in Cache County Utah.  Trucks are a form of currency here, and
> are ALWAYS at a premium, fetching a premium price.  I will bring my
> truck back to my local Dodge service center and tell them the freon
> charge didn't work, and tell them to inspect the Evaporator core and
> condenser.  I will then purchase the aftermarket part, and have them
> replace it.

Your dealer must be understanding to install aftermarket parts that you
carry in, I don't see that happening around here! Did you ever get a actual
price from the dealer to repair? Also ask around for a good private shop to
the repair. Around here I know some shade tree mechanics I would trust more
than who ever the daeler would turn loose, at less money too.
Greg
GeekBoy - 17 Jun 2007 23:28 GMT
>> >  Middle for that road truck should be around 7K retail. A dealer won't
>> > give
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> I live in Cache County Utah.  Trucks are a form of currency here, and
> are ALWAYS at a premium, fetching a premium price.  I will bring my

I doubt that. In the US, of new vehicles sold 1 out of 8 are trucks, excet
for Texas and then it increases to 1 out of every 4.

> truck back to my local Dodge service center and tell them the freon
> charge didn't work, and tell them to inspect the Evaporator core and
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> 8000 + for th etruck.  I've seen Ram 1500's with nearly double my
> mileage sell for similar prices...at least aorund here.
GeekBoy - 17 Jun 2007 23:26 GMT
>>  Middle for that road truck should be around 7K retail. A dealer won't
>> give you that on a trade in. 5K well........
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> 1998 Isuzu Amigo.  Trade $4000, sold for $7500.
> 2001 Dodge QC Ram.  Trade $9800, sold for $12,500

Try trading them in Texas. You get premium.
In 2000 I traded a '86 Chevy 1500 long bed with a crappy v6 that needed $500
valve job. They gave me $4000 trad in value.

> Trading in a vehicle is a lousy deal.  Most people I've heard that said
> they got a great high trade in did so because they overpaid on the new
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> difference of the new vehicle price minus the trade in.  So some savings
> can be made there for a trade in that is worth quite a bit.
.boB - 17 Jun 2007 16:55 GMT
> ...On my 1998 Dodge Ram 1500 Sport.  W/ the 5.9 (5.8 ?) L V8.  80 K
> mileage...
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>
> Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks guys.

   Generally speaking, the cost of the repair is going
to be more than the increased value of the truck on
trade in.  You might spend $350 for the repair, but it
would only add $250 to the value.  Just trade it in as
is, and let them worry about it.

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