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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / August 2007

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97 Dakota 2WD Shocks

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NapalmHeart - 23 Aug 2007 01:50 GMT
I've got a 97 Dakota Longbed 2WD.  Would it be worth the money to get
Bilsteins?  Any ideas are welcomed.

Ken
azwiley1 - 23 Aug 2007 02:10 GMT
> I've got a 97 Dakota Longbed 2WD.  Would it be worth the money to get
> Bilsteins?  Any ideas are welcomed.
>
> Ken

I don't know, according to you I am too thin skinned!  <Bg>  (FYI for
the reading impaired, this is a JOKE!)

Being that it is a 2wd and likely see little to no off-road use, I
would say no.  I would stay with something that is not going to take
away the ride and handling of it, the ProComp ES1000 series would be a
good choice.  Cheap (price wise) and will not harshen up the ride.
Tom Lawrence - 23 Aug 2007 02:13 GMT
> I've got a 97 Dakota Longbed 2WD.  Would it be worth the money to get
> Bilsteins?  Any ideas are welcomed.

Any brand-name shock is going to perform better than the stock ones,
particularly if they're as old as the truck.  Bilstein makes a good shock -
you wouldn't be wasting your money.
NapalmHeart - 23 Aug 2007 12:26 GMT
>> I've got a 97 Dakota Longbed 2WD.  Would it be worth the money to get
>> Bilsteins?  Any ideas are welcomed.
>
> Any brand-name shock is going to perform better than the stock ones,
> particularly if they're as old as the truck.  Bilstein makes a good
> shock - you wouldn't be wasting your money.

Thanks to both Tom and the wiley1.  Both of your comments are appreciated,
as I know you both speak from wisdom and experience.

Ken
azwiley1 - 23 Aug 2007 16:25 GMT
> >> Bilsteins?  Any ideas are welcomed.
>
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>
> Ken

Yup we do, I have the wisdom Tom has the experience.  Every once in
awhile we trade!  LOL

Seriously though, I had a 97 Ram X-cab long bed 2wd and ran the Pro
Comp ES3000 shocks and simply loved them.
Tom Lawrence - 23 Aug 2007 20:31 GMT
> Yup we do, I have the wisdom Tom has the experience.  Every once in
> awhile we trade!  LOL

Wait...  didn't you have the experience last?  Aw, man....  I was SURE you
had it.  WTH did I do with it??  That was my LAST package, too...  DAMMIT!

:^)
azwiley1 - 23 Aug 2007 21:36 GMT
On Aug 23, 12:31 pm, "Tom Lawrence"
<tNoOmS4P8...@MeImNbGaArLqLmOaWiElD.com> wrote:
> > Yup we do, I have the wisdom Tom has the experience.  Every once in
> > awhile we trade!  LOL
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>
> :^)

Here ya go Tom, I'll let you have what I have left, so now you have
Experience and Wisdom!
NapalmHeart - 25 Aug 2007 13:33 GMT
> On Aug 23, 12:31 pm, "Tom Lawrence"
> <tNoOmS4P8...@MeImNbGaArLqLmOaWiElD.com> wrote:
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> Here ya go Tom, I'll let you have what I have left, so now you have
> Experience and Wisdom!

I'm being serious guys, the 2 of you and others here have given me a lot of
great advice and I respect that.

Ken
azwiley1 - 25 Aug 2007 18:27 GMT
> > On Aug 23, 12:31 pm, "Tom Lawrence"
> > <tNoOmS4P8...@MeImNbGaArLqLmOaWiElD.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Ken

We know you were Ken, and though I can't speak for Tom, but I am sure
he would echo this, Thank you.
Denny - 25 Aug 2007 18:53 GMT
>> > On Aug 23, 12:31 pm, "Tom Lawrence"
>> > <tNoOmS4P8...@MeImNbGaArLqLmOaWiElD.com> wrote:
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> We know you were Ken, and though I can't speak for Tom, but I am sure
> he would echo this, Thank you.

Talk about a massive suck-up. We'll never put up with you two now.....

Anybody got a chain saw so we can widen out the doorways??    <GBMFG>

Denny
Roy - 25 Aug 2007 19:21 GMT
>>> > On Aug 23, 12:31 pm, "Tom Lawrence"
>>> > <tNoOmS4P8...@MeImNbGaArLqLmOaWiElD.com> wrote:
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>
> Anybody got a chain saw so we can widen out the doorways??    <GBMFG>

Really!!! He is going to be as bad as the Idiot now.<BFG>

Roy
> Denny
azwiley1 - 25 Aug 2007 19:27 GMT
> >>> "azwiley1" <wiley...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh just go trade it in!
Tom Lawrence - 25 Aug 2007 21:48 GMT
> Anybody got a chain saw so we can widen out the doorways??    <GBMFG>

Why?  You wanna come in?  :^)
Roy - 26 Aug 2007 00:49 GMT
>> Anybody got a chain saw so we can widen out the doorways??    <GBMFG>
>
> Why?  You wanna come in?  :^)

Wow!! Hey rabbit, seems like he got ya.<BFG>

Actually the wide ride will have probably have shrunken a size or two with
all the water he's in.
Chris Thompson - 26 Aug 2007 02:43 GMT
In response to Roy 's post. I thought everyone should know:

>>> Anybody got a chain saw so we can widen out the doorways??    <GBMFG>
>>
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> Actually the wide ride will have probably have shrunken a size or two with
> all the water he's in.

DAMN! rabbits shrink when they get wet? i thought that was cotton....

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Roy - 26 Aug 2007 02:58 GMT
> In response to Roy 's post. I thought everyone should know:
>
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>
> DAMN! rabbits shrink when they get wet? i thought that was cotton....

Denny "cotton tail" ?

> Chris
Chris Thompson - 26 Aug 2007 04:13 GMT
In response to Roy 's post. I thought everyone should know:

>> In response to Roy 's post. I thought everyone should know:
>>
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>
>> Chris

OK, but how much could that "tail" actually shrink?

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Denny - 26 Aug 2007 12:04 GMT
> In response to Roy 's post. I thought everyone should know:
>
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>
> OK, but how much could that "tail" actually shrink?

I could answer that if you really want to know..........

Denny
FMB - 26 Aug 2007 16:06 GMT
> In response to Roy 's post. I thought everyone should know:
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> OK, but how much could that "tail" actually shrink?

Chris, it seems you are showing an interesting amount of interest in Denny's
shrinkage.  Is there something you want to confess here? <BFG>

FMB
(North Mexico)
Roy - 26 Aug 2007 18:22 GMT
>> In response to Roy 's post. I thought everyone should know:
>>
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> Chris, it seems you are showing an interesting amount of interest in
> Denny's shrinkage.  Is there something you want to confess here? <BFG>

I think Chris is being polite. The actual shrinkage of a wet wide ride such
as the rabbit is so small that it may not be noticed. In other words if the
shrinkage was say 6" across, it would be like throwing a deck chair off a
cruise ship.

Roy
> FMB
> (North Mexico)
.boB - 23 Aug 2007 16:43 GMT
> I've got a 97 Dakota Longbed 2WD.  Would it be worth the money to get
> Bilsteins?  Any ideas are welcomed.
>
> Ken

    Depends on what your goals are and what you do
with the truck.
    Bilsteins are expensive.  They are a high
performance shock designed to compliment a well
designed high performance suspension.  They can really
improve the handeling for those that are looking for
every tenth of a gee while cutting tight corners.  For
those people something like a Bilstein or Koni will
help round out the suspension package.
     But if the rest of the suspension is stock and
you're not on the road course, I don't think they are
worth the money.
     For a quality shock on an essentially stock
truck, look for something from Pro Comp, Rancho, etc.
Even a cheap Monroe Magnum will be better than stock.
     I use Rancho RS5000 on my dakota.  But I use
Koni's on my CObra - it sees a lot of track time.

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2006 FXDI hot rod
2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.

Tom Lawrence - 23 Aug 2007 20:40 GMT
>     Bilsteins are expensive.

Depends...  I put a set of 5100's on my Ram a few months ago, with a
DRAMATIC improvement in handling, and general road feel.  I paid $79 each.
Rancho RS5000's go for about $53 each.  So, about $100 more for the
Bilstiens.  Yes, they were more expensive, but not terribly so.  I
acknowledge that I would have gotten very similar results from a set of
RS5000's....  but what the heck.
Chris Thompson - 24 Aug 2007 00:56 GMT
In response to Tom Lawrence 's post. I thought everyone should know:

>>     Bilsteins are expensive.
>
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> acknowledge that I would have gotten very similar results from a set of
> RS5000's....  but what the heck.

are you up to 3 wheels on the back yet to get all that power to the ground
or are you just counting on the new shocks to help keep her planted?

<GBMFG>

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Tom Lawrence - 24 Aug 2007 04:04 GMT
> are you up to 3 wheels on the back yet to get all that power to the ground
> or are you just counting on the new shocks to help keep her planted?

Two is still pretty good for now.  It actually takes quite a bit to bust the
duallies loose (though a 15psi launch does light them up nicely - I tend not
to do that too much, as it scares the crap out of everyone around [myself
included]).  That same launch in 4WD, well...  that's a good way to induce a
case of whiplash (and shot-put a U-joint a good 75-80 yards).

Speaking of which....  I'm still on factory U-joints.  Hmmmm....  weekend
project.
Chris Thompson - 24 Aug 2007 16:53 GMT
In response to Tom Lawrence 's post. I thought everyone should know:

>> are you up to 3 wheels on the back yet to get all that power to the ground
>> or are you just counting on the new shocks to help keep her planted?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Speaking of which....  I'm still on factory U-joints.  Hmmmm....  weekend
> project.

LOL leave them.......shoot ya have abused them poor u-joints this long,
why stop now?

<BG>

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NapalmHeart - 28 Aug 2007 03:54 GMT
> I've got a 97 Dakota Longbed 2WD.  Would it be worth the money to get
> Bilsteins?  Any ideas are welcomed.
>
> Ken

Ended up getting Gabriel Ultra Truck shocks.  Average price $40 each with a
rebate of the cost of 1 shock.  I can't see spending 2X (or more) that cost
on this truck at this time.  They're still a lot better than what was on it.

Ken
 
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