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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / October 2007

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Edelbrock IAS Shocks

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Craig C. - 12 Oct 2007 01:44 GMT
Anyone have any experience with these shocks?  Supposedly the best of
both worlds, comfortable ride and good performance.

Will be going on a 2004 Ram QC, 4x4, CRD.

Craig C.
BDK - 12 Oct 2007 02:32 GMT
> Anyone have any experience with these shocks?  Supposedly the best of
> both worlds, comfortable ride and good performance.
>
> Will be going on a 2004 Ram QC, 4x4, CRD.
>
> Craig C.

I'm interested in these too, for my 2003

BDK
Midlant - 12 Oct 2007 03:53 GMT
Yep, have them on my 96 2500 4x4. Smoooooth ride. Pain to install. They
are strong. Don't cut the tie straps before installing. Bushings are
oversized and a pain to get into the cleaves or mounts.

I had one blow the oil out. They sent me a new one. I paid for it,
returned the old one and they credited the money back. This was a year
or two after installing them. It was the front right shock.

Last week the left front did the same thing. I'm waiting for the new one
to arrive. There is a huge difference with just that one shock out of
action. Truck bounces all over the place on that corner, though the
others try and absorb it. They really are a good shock. They've been on
since Sept 2001. What a date, eh?
John
BDK - 12 Oct 2007 18:13 GMT
> Yep, have them on my 96 2500 4x4. Smoooooth ride. Pain to install. They
> are strong. Don't cut the tie straps before installing. Bushings are
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> since Sept 2001. What a date, eh?
> John

My truck's going to be getting a bunch of servicing done soon, front
rotors and pads, tranny fluid change, etc, and maybe then, maybe a few
months later, shocks. It all depends if I keep it or not. I might trade
it, it's been a decent truck, but a car would be easier to deal with
right now, for various reasons.

BDK
Steve Lusardi - 13 Oct 2007 07:09 GMT
What is wrong with the original shocks. They work perfectly and last as
least as long as the aftermarket. Just because these things are painted
bright colors do not make them better.
Steve

> Anyone have any experience with these shocks?  Supposedly the best of both
> worlds, comfortable ride and good performance.
>
> Will be going on a 2004 Ram QC, 4x4, CRD.
>
> Craig C.
Carolina Watercraft Works - 13 Oct 2007 14:18 GMT
Run a set of Bilsteins...then tell us the OEM are as good.

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> What is wrong with the original shocks. They work perfectly and last as
> least as long as the aftermarket. Just because these things are painted
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>> Craig C.
Craig C. - 13 Oct 2007 15:43 GMT
How's the ride with Bilsteins?  It is my understanding/experience that
the are a performance shock and do great with roll/cornering but will
beat you to death on a bumpy road.  I had a set on a 4x4 Tacoma I once
owned.

My daily drive consists of horrible roads.

Craig C.

> Run a set of Bilsteins...then tell us the OEM are as good.
azwiley1 - 13 Oct 2007 16:27 GMT
> How's the ride with Bilsteins?  It is my understanding/experience that
> the are a performance shock and do great with roll/cornering but will
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> - Show quoted text -

Craig, I haven't used the IAS so I can't tell you about them.  I will
either use Rancho RS5000 or Procomp shocks.  With both I have had
great experiences, great handling and great ride quality.  Add to all
this, they are both cheaper in price and Desert Rat normally runs a
special on them, which is even nicer.
Craig C. - 13 Oct 2007 17:49 GMT
> Craig, I haven't used the IAS so I can't tell you about them.  I will
> either use Rancho RS5000 or Procomp shocks.  With both I have had
> great experiences, great handling and great ride quality.  Add to all
> this, they are both cheaper in price and Desert Rat normally runs a
> special on them, which is even nicer.

I looked at the Rancho's too.  Right now I'm just gathering information
so any brand is up for grabs.  Thanks for your recommendation.

Craig C.
Nosey - 14 Oct 2007 00:40 GMT
> I looked at the Rancho's too.  Right now I'm just gathering
> information so any brand is up for grabs.  Thanks for your
> recommendation.
> Craig C.

I have NAPA (Monroe) Reflex shocks. NAPA gets them from Monroe and sells
them as their own store brand. I'd say they are good quality shock. They
work well on my '99 4X4 QC diesel. They may not be the best but you could do
much worse. They are $51.49 for your truck at napaonline.com and $39.79 at
rockauto.com.
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miles - 14 Oct 2007 04:27 GMT
> I have NAPA (Monroe) Reflex shocks. NAPA gets them from Monroe

I believe the Monroe Reflex are the same as the Rancho RSX.  Not sure
who makes them for whom.
Nosey - 14 Oct 2007 06:50 GMT
>> I have NAPA (Monroe) Reflex shocks. NAPA gets them from Monroe
>
> I believe the Monroe Reflex are the same as the Rancho RSX.  Not sure
> who makes them for whom.

I haven't heard that before. I'd guess that it's Monroe doing the
manufacturing.
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Ken

miles - 14 Oct 2007 07:20 GMT
> I haven't heard that before. I'd guess that it's Monroe doing the
> manufacturing.

Tenneco owns both Monroe and Rancho.  They share technologies.
Nosey - 14 Oct 2007 09:10 GMT
> Tenneco owns both Monroe and Rancho.  They share technologies.

I didn't know that. I looked up the Rancho RSX and that one has a rubber
boot that the Monroe/NAPA Reflex doesn't have. It may be the same inside.

I found this at shockwarehouse.com:

Monroe's New Reflex shocks and struts for cars and trucks. Featuring their
new Impact Sensor, which acts like a switch between firm and soft
compression damping. Under normal road conditions, Reflex shocks deliver
better handling than O.E shocks. The Reflex design also has a soft, light
valving for average daily use and driving.

Rancho RSX Shock and Struts
RSX delivers ultimate control using impact sensing technology. Available for
both light truck and SUV. It offers greater stability and control. Each part
number is valved for the individual application.
Rancho RSX units have: Patented reflex valve, Cellular gas design with VFC
(Variable Force Control) for precise flow metering, and improved urethane
bushings to offer twice the durability compared to rubber bushings, without
sacrificing quality. (These units are similiar to Monroe's Reflex Shocks).

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Ken

miles - 13 Oct 2007 16:35 GMT
> How's the ride with Bilsteins?  It is my understanding/experience that
> the are a performance shock and do great with roll/cornering but will
> beat you to death on a bumpy road.  I had a set on a 4x4 Tacoma I once

That is true.  Great for offroad but the on pavement ride feels like the
suspension is welded together.
Tom Lawrence - 13 Oct 2007 19:04 GMT
> How's the ride with Bilsteins?  It is my understanding/experience that the
> are a performance shock and do great with roll/cornering but will beat you
> to death on a bumpy road.  I had a set on a 4x4 Tacoma I once owned.

On my 3500, they made a huge difference in ride quality.  Perhaps on a
lighter truck, they're a little too stiff.  On washboard roads, the ride is
much smoother than the factory shocks.
azwiley1 - 13 Oct 2007 16:24 GMT
On Oct 13, 6:18 am, "Carolina Watercraft Works"
<coolt...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Run a set of Bilsteins...then tell us the OEM are as good.

Why just extremely expensive Bilsteins? Any aftermarket performance
shock is better than OEM
Craig C. - 13 Oct 2007 15:38 GMT
I'm looking for a better ride without giving up any capabilities.  The
IAS shocks profess to do just that.

As with everything else on this truck, I am looking for the best
possible part whether that be after market or the OEM part.

You are the *first* person I have EVER heard/seen defend the OEM shocks.

Craig C.

> What is wrong with the original shocks. They work perfectly and last as
> least as long as the aftermarket. Just because these things are painted
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>> Craig C.
Steve Lusardi - 13 Oct 2007 16:36 GMT
Craig,
I have an '04 Cummins dually. The OEM shocks do the job even on rough
terrain. The truck tracks very well in the corners. No visible bounce and
the ride is as good as any truck I have ridden in. How many people do you
know that bought the pretty multi-colored shocks would tell you that they
are no better than the OEM ones, even if it were true? The first thing they
do is convince themselves that they didn't waste their money. From a
technical point of view, the only viable reasons to change to another shock
would be a change to the unstrung weight (heavy wheels) or a sport
application.
Steve

> I'm looking for a better ride without giving up any capabilities.  The IAS
> shocks profess to do just that.
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>>> Craig C.
BDK - 13 Oct 2007 17:30 GMT
> Craig,
> I have an '04 Cummins dually. The OEM shocks do the job even on rough
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> >>>
> >>> Craig C.

I have to agree, you are the only person I've ever seen, heard, or read
that defended the OEM shocks. I got rid of the OEM shocks on a previous
truck after a hunk of a truck tire hit one and killed it. It had 36K on
it, so I was kind of wondering if they were still any good or not, and
they weren=3Ft, 3 of them, including the one hit, were outright bad, the
4th seemed ok.

I got a set of KYB's and they were great on smooth pavement, but a
little, not horribly bouncy, or really any worse than the factory shocks
on the washboard pavement I drove every day back then, before they
repaved it, and miles ahead everywhere else. Cornering was a lot better
and handling in general was a lot better.

I can't see any reason at all to ever replace the OEM shocks with
another set of them, they're junk $5 items.

When I had a lot of money, I replaced the shocks on my 82 blazer, three
days after I drove it off the lot. It had less than 400 miles. One of
them was already starting to leak oil. I was going to be driving from
Nevada to Ohio, and I didn't even mess with taking it back to the dealer
for a replacement junk shock.

BDK
Craig C. - 13 Oct 2007 17:47 GMT
You might be correct about people convincing themselves that a part is
better than OEM to justify their spending.  I am guilty of that myself.  :-)

I know the following:

1)  The paved roads I drive are worse than dirt roads.

2)  The OEM shocks are beating me to death.  Which only adds additional
fuel to my tendency towards road rage.  :-)

A smoother ride would be nice without creating more role than I already
experience when cornering.

I don't know the price of OEM shocks.  The IAS are $75 each.  The
Bilsteins are about $100 each.

Craig C.

> Craig,
> I have an '04 Cummins dually. The OEM shocks do the job even on rough
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>>>>
>>>> Craig C.
FMB - 13 Oct 2007 18:05 GMT
> You might be correct about people convincing themselves that a part is
> better than OEM to justify their spending.  I am guilty of that myself.
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>>>>> Craig C.

I was/am happy about the Rancho 9000's I put on my '03 CTD QC 4x4 LB.  Since
they are adjustable, I like them for everyday driving and for each of the
10k mile trips I've been on with the 5th wheel.  If I were to do it again,
I'd do it again.

FMB
(North Mexico)
Tom Lawrence - 13 Oct 2007 19:07 GMT
> I don't know the price of OEM shocks.  The IAS are $75 each.  The
> Bilsteins are about $100 each.

$100/ea. ??  Geno's has them for $69/ea.
Carolina Watercraft Works - 14 Oct 2007 13:33 GMT
I got my Bilsteins for $75 each.  Hunting around will most
likely net you a better deal.

But after rading your comment I guess I wouild have to
agree that if the there are some porr roads I've been on
that cause problems.....mostly very porr conditions approaching
stop lights where there are a ton of repetitive humps.  Other
than that though, I've been completely happy with my
Bilsteins and have zero complaints.  And they have outlasted
the OEM units by more than I can even remember.

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----Ice Angels

> You might be correct about people convincing themselves that a part is
> better than OEM to justify their spending.  I am guilty of that myself.
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>>>>>
>>>>> Craig C.
Roy - 15 Oct 2007 14:42 GMT
> Anyone have any experience with these shocks?  Supposedly the best of both
> worlds, comfortable ride and good performance.
>
> Will be going on a 2004 Ram QC, 4x4, CRD.

Edelbrock makes some real good engine components. They have stuck their name
on somebody's shock. I have heard both good and bad about them, guess they
are like anything else.
I've used Monroe on my trucks and was real happy with them. I found the
stock shock to be pretty much shot after a year. snow plowing does put a
strain on shocks but the Monroes seem to hold up well after a few years use.
They are decent for some off road use as well.

Tom L commented on the Bilsteins. I have a friend that has them on a truck
and loves them, he's soo anal that if they didn't work they'd be gone.
Bilsteins came as a factory shock on a few of the Corvettes I 've had, they
certainly got the job done on that application.

Roy
> Craig C.
 
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