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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / December 2007

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1998 Grand Caravan stalls

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Dave Cox - 19 Oct 2007 14:55 GMT
3.3 liter  (130k miles) engine will randomely stall at low speeds,
stopped or wont start unless accelerator is depressed.

No Check engine  light
when it runs  it runs very smooth

When I say stalls  it just  dies  no hesitation or sputter at all.

Any ideas?
beekeep - 20 Oct 2007 00:22 GMT
>3.3 liter  (130k miles) engine will randomely stall at low speeds,
>stopped or wont start unless accelerator is depressed.
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>
>Any ideas?

Dirty fuel filter?

beekeep
Dave Cox - 20 Oct 2007 01:15 GMT
>>3.3 liter  (130k miles) engine will randomely stall at low speeds,
>>stopped or wont start unless accelerator is depressed.
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> beekeep

New fuel filter was installed no change.
beekeep - 20 Oct 2007 09:24 GMT
>>>3.3 liter  (130k miles) engine will randomely stall at low speeds,
>>>stopped or wont start unless accelerator is depressed.
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>
>New fuel filter was installed no change.

Then maybe the fuel pump?  They usually only  last about 150K miles.

beekeep
Kent - 20 Oct 2007 13:06 GMT
>>>3.3 liter  (130k miles) engine will randomely stall at low speeds,
>>>stopped or wont start unless accelerator is depressed.
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>
>New fuel filter was installed no change.

I had a similar issue with our 1996 3.3 liter Grand Caravan. I
replaced everything ignition or fuel-related without success. Mine
typically died at idle (at a traffic stop) or at partial throttle when
moving at 15 - 20 mph. Never did solve it; traded on a 2002 model in
2004.

Kent
Dave Cox - 20 Oct 2007 17:18 GMT
>>>>3.3 liter  (130k miles) engine will randomely stall at low
>>>>speeds, stopped or wont start unless accelerator is depressed.
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> Kent

Sounds like the exact same issue.

Yea I really  don't want to chase this problem down  by replacing
parts.

I've read many blogs and no one seems to be able to nail this issue.
Even dealer's from what I have read have a hard time diagnosing this
problem.

I'd really like to hear from someone who has actually had this
problem  and found a repair.

The way it just dies without any warning and at random intervals
makes me think it's an electrical/electronic problem. (not fuel
related)
Dave Dodge - 20 Oct 2007 21:14 GMT
"Dave Cox" <dcox1961@gmail.com> wrote in message
// remaining whining & crying flushed //

Instead of whining & crying here and unwilling to invest
a freakin' few dollars to solve your problem, get rid of the
truck.   don't you think you got a freakin' long life out ot the
truck by now, that you'd be willing to invest a few freakin'
dollars, if you wanted to keep the truck?

BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Dave Cox - 20 Oct 2007 22:40 GMT
"Dave Dodge" <Dodgeman@cdaddnother.org> wrote in news:1bacve.qaq.17.1
@news.alt.net:

> "Dave Cox" <dcox1961@gmail.com> wrote in message
> // remaining whining & crying flushed //
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WOW!  some people have worse issues  then my mini-van.

I think this guy needs  to bend over and let me add some injector
cleaner..he's not firing on all cylinders.
Dave Dodge - 20 Oct 2007 23:51 GMT
BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

> "Dave Dodge" <Dodgeman@cdaddnother.org> wrote in news:1bacve.qaq.17.1
> @news.alt.net:
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> I think this guy needs  to bend over and let me add some injector
> cleaner..he's not firing on all cylinders.
Dave Dodge - 20 Oct 2007 23:55 GMT
BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Denny - 21 Oct 2007 00:19 GMT
>>>>>3.3 liter  (130k miles) engine will randomely stall at low
>>>>>speeds, stopped or wont start unless accelerator is depressed.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>>>>
>>>>>Any ideas?

My guess is a dirty throttle body and gunked up ais motor. Have you tried
cleaning both of them yet?? If it won't start unless you give it a little
pedal it about has to be this or maybe a defective ais motor

Denny
Dave Cox - 21 Oct 2007 05:36 GMT
>>>>>>3.3 liter  (130k miles) engine will randomely stall at low
>>>>>>speeds, stopped or wont start unless accelerator is depressed.
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>
> Denny

Thanks Denny I'll do that and post back.

Dave
Dave Cox - 03 Dec 2007 14:24 GMT
>>>>>>3.3 liter  (130k miles) engine will randomely stall at low
>>>>>>speeds, stopped or wont start unless accelerator is depressed.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Denny



Well  It's been awhile  almost forgot to post back results.

Thank You Denny, After your post I found the AIS (Air Idle Speed)
Motor to be faulty.

Simple test of removing it from the throttle body and cycling the
ignition on and off (without starting) shown the solenoid not
working, it would just chatter and not move back or forth.

Replaced it  and now after 2 weeks have not had any stalls and always
starts without applying any throttle.

Hope this helps someone else.

Dave
 
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