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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / November 2007

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DBII -> USB/serial port cable?

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Brewster - 20 Nov 2007 21:47 GMT
Anyone know of a source for one of these to connect a laptop to the DBII
port on Dodges? Only place i've found is offering one for $200 - which is
friggin ridiculous.
Steve Lusardi - 20 Nov 2007 22:09 GMT
I don't think the price is ridiculous. Just what interface do you think is
compatible on your laptop to this SAE controller port? You not only require
a cable, you also need a SAE bus controller card and the software to drive
it.
Steve

> Anyone know of a source for one of these to connect a laptop to the DBII
> port on Dodges? Only place i've found is offering one for $200 - which is
> friggin ridiculous.
azwiley1 - 20 Nov 2007 23:11 GMT
> I don't think the price is ridiculous. Just what interface do you think is
> compatible on your laptop to this SAE controller port? You not only require
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Come on Steve, I want it, the software and some one to do the work for
me, like everything else, FOR FREE!   <VBFG>
Brewster - 21 Nov 2007 02:37 GMT
>> I don't think the price is ridiculous. Just what interface do you
>> think is compatible on your laptop to this SAE controller port? You
>> not only require a cable, you also need a SAE bus controller card and
>> the software to drive it.
>> Steve

No - you DON'T need a controller card. There is software around that
accepts data directly from the DBII port. I found one company - the one
offering the cable for ONLY 200 bucks - offering the software and the cable
for the "special price" of 999 bucks. Wow - such a deal. For a business,
maybe, but not for a home user.

> Come on Steve, I want it, the software and some one to do the work for
> me, like everything else, FOR FREE!   <VBFG>

You guys are real f.cking comedians, aren't you.

No - I don't want it for FREE, clown - I expect a FAIR price, and 200 bucks
for a cable is absurd.
azwiley1 - 21 Nov 2007 02:44 GMT
> >> I don't think the price is ridiculous. Just what interface do you
> >> think is compatible on your laptop to this SAE controller port? You
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> No - I don't want it for FREE, clown - I expect a FAIR price, and 200 bucks
> for a cable is absurd.

Dude, lighten the f.ck up, it was a f.cking joke, learn how to take
one!
miles - 21 Nov 2007 04:57 GMT
> No - I don't want it for FREE, clown - I expect a FAIR price, and 200 bucks
> for a cable is absurd.

They're probably marketing it towards businesses and not consumers.
People are used to the $50 software programs sold at their local mall
store and often expect even specialized applications to be priced
comparibly. The difference is that specialized programs sell in the
100's per year or less while consumer products sell 10's of 1,000's.

Software I wrote for the industrial and aerospace industry sells for
$2000 and the hardware that goes with it $2000-$10,000.  Sell about 10
copies per year at most. Took several years just to pay back the R&D
that went into it.  Support costs are, well, costly as well!

Currently I don't see the product you mention selling enough at a low
consumer price for a manufacture to bother with it.  Thus, high priced
aimed at businesses is a better option for now.
mac davis - 21 Nov 2007 15:07 GMT
>No - I don't want it for FREE, clown - I expect a FAIR price, and 200 bucks
>for a cable is absurd.

In my experience, it's only absurd if someone else has it cheaper...

I can't see the cable or the software at that price for anyone BUT a pro...
They can hopefully do enough work to get a return on their investment, but most
folks aren't going to spend $1,200 on getting their codes read in their
lifetime.. YMWV

mac

Please remove splinters before emailing
Tom Lawrence - 20 Nov 2007 23:36 GMT
> Anyone know of a source for one of these to connect a laptop to the DBII
> port on Dodges? Only place i've found is offering one for $200 - which is
> friggin ridiculous.

Do you just want a simple code reader?  You can get those for a lot less:
http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=OBD

Or, here's a USB to OBD-II interface for $70:
http://tunertools.com/proddetail.asp?prod=ST-420500

You could also get a complete package (hardware/software) for $80 here:
http://www.myscantool.com

Amazing technology, that Google is...
Brewster - 21 Nov 2007 02:40 GMT
>> Anyone know of a source for one of these to connect a laptop to the
>> DBII port on Dodges? Only place i've found is offering one for $200 -
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> Amazing technology, that Google is...

Watch out, Tom - people giving serious answers to serious questions on
this group are likely to be challenged.

No - I already have a code reader. I was given the softwear I need to
connect to my Dodge, but the cable was not available.

Thanks for those two other links - I'll give them a look.
azwiley1 - 21 Nov 2007 02:45 GMT
> >> Anyone know of a source for one of these to connect a laptop to the
> >> DBII port on Dodges? Only place i've found is offering one for $200 -
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No people who don't know how to take a f.cking joke and have a broom
stick stuck up their a.s will be.  Lighten the f.ck up
Tom Lawrence - 21 Nov 2007 03:40 GMT
> Watch out, Tom - people giving serious answers to serious questions on
> this group are likely to be challenged.

The way I see it, it takes two people to have a pissing contest.  If you
don't participate, the other guy is just standing there looking rediculous
:)

> No - I already have a code reader. I was given the softwear I need to
> connect to my Dodge, but the cable was not available.

I also found some plans for building your own interface, if you're into the
electronics thing.  Parts came out to less than $20, if I remember (but that
was assuming you already had the stuff to etch a PC board).  Too messy for
me anymore.

But understand that for OBD-II, it's more than just a cable.  It is an
actual interface converter, as you need to convert the OBD-II protocol to
RS-232.  But I agree, $200 is a bit out of line, especially given the price
of some of the previously-linked products.
 
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