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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / December 2007

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Can I use Diesel fuel in my home heating system.

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Hober Mallow - 19 Dec 2007 16:16 GMT
Hello Everyone,

I really can't spare the $500+ that it would cost to get the heating oil
company to come out and pump 150 gallons of heating oil.

Can I use Diesel fuel from a gas station instead as home heating oil?  

They have the low-sulfur fuel in my area now.  I suppose that would be an
improvement over the former higher-sulfur fuel.

Any comments?  Suggestions?  Thanks in advance.

The Rocket Man
.boB - 19 Dec 2007 19:09 GMT
> Hello Everyone,
>
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>
> The Rocket Man

Yes, I believe you can.  BUT... it will be very
expensive.  The differance between home heating fuel
and diesel fuel is the all the taxes added to the diesel.

I remember a while back some gov't agency was making a
big stink about it.  People using the cheaper home fuel
in the pick ups, and saving money.  And you know how
gov't types are about tax money.   They proposed adding
a purple dye to home fuel to catch those horrible
criminals in the act.

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Hober Mallow - 19 Dec 2007 19:14 GMT
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
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> expensive.  The differance between home heating fuel
> and diesel fuel is the all the taxes added to the diesel.

I've checked the prices, and in my area (near Seattle) a week ago,
Diesel fuel at my local Shell station was actually cheaper than home
heating oil !!!  Hence my question.  Plus the fact that I could purchase
in smaller quantities rather than take the hit at one time.
Neville MADDEN - 19 Dec 2007 20:25 GMT
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
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>>> They have the low-sulfur fuel in my area now.  I suppose that would
>>> be an improvement over the former higher-sulfur fuel.

Here in Australia, where very few people use heating oil nowadays (its mainly
natural gas) heating oil was any hydrocarbon fuel from kerosine upwards .

The fuel distributors used to have a tank in their depot that was just for
this purpose.  Their tanker would return from deliveries of diesel and if  the
next delivery was gasoline the company would empty the dregs from the diesel
load into into this tank.  

How do I know.....I was in the Army and we prepositioned 72 x 44gal (50us gal)
drums of AVTUR (JP4).  Unfortunately a local river flooded and the drums sat
in about 6 inches of water for a week or so.  The pilot of the support
helicopter (mapping project) refused to use the fuel and the distributor was
more than happy to buy it for a  chicken feed price and transport it over
2000km back to Brisbane for use as heating oil.

Neville
Cootamundra  NSW
Australia
The Reverend Natural Light - 19 Dec 2007 22:18 GMT
> I've checked the prices, and in my area (near Seattle) a week ago,
> Diesel fuel at my local Shell station was actually cheaper than home
> heating oil !!!  Hence my question.  Plus the fact that I could purchase
> in smaller quantities rather than take the hit at one time.

I've had an oil furnace for three winters now and heating oil has
always been more expensive than at-the-pump-diesel.  Why?  It's the
same stuff with less tax.

The oil company prefers to fill the tank but they'll stop at whatever
I tell them.  Presumably they'd want more per gallon for a smaller
delivery.
beekeep - 23 Dec 2007 22:37 GMT
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
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>heating oil !!!  Hence my question.  Plus the fact that I could purchase
>in smaller quantities rather than take the hit at one time.

You should look around and see if you can buy off road diesel.  That way you
won't have to pay the road tax.  It is available in most areas for tractors and
machinery.  

beekeep
PeterD - 19 Dec 2007 20:33 GMT
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
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>a purple dye to home fuel to catch those horrible
>criminals in the act.

Cripes that dye has been added for the last bazillion years. It is
red, not purple, however. All non-taxed (fuel oil, off-road diesel,
etc.) is dyed to mark it as not to be used on the road. And yes, at
truck inspections they can (and perhaps do) 'dip' the tank to check
for color!
PeterD - 19 Dec 2007 20:31 GMT
>Hello Everyone,
>
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>
>The Rocket Man

Not much of a rocket man are you?

Fuel oil is *cheaper* than diesel fuel by quite a bit. So you are
going to ferry a few gallons of more expensive fuel, and pay the cost
of the transportation on top of that, to try to save mnoey? I don't
think so...

Virtually all fuel oil companies will come an pump the amount you want
to pay for (within reason) if you are tight no cash. But using
expensive (road tax paid) diesel fuel that will have to be transported
as well, is not very cost effective.

But if you must...

Yes, you can use #2 diesel fuel as a substitute for #2 fuel oil.
Hober Mallow - 19 Dec 2007 22:15 GMT
>>Hello Everyone,
>>
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>
> Yes, you can use #2 diesel fuel as a substitute for #2 fuel oil.

Thanks for your reply, Peter.
I should have mentioned earlier that I wasn't going to fill up my entire
fuel oil with #2 Diesel from the pump.
Instead, I was just trying to figure out what would happen if I tried to
use 10-20 gallons to hold me over 'til I could get a bulk shipment.
NapalmHeart - 23 Dec 2007 23:53 GMT
>>>Hello Everyone,
>>>
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> to
> use 10-20 gallons to hold me over 'til I could get a bulk shipment.

He missed that you have a source of diesel that is cheaper than buying
#2. So much for trying to sound superior.
nunya - 20 Dec 2007 13:21 GMT
> Hello Everyone,
>
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>
> The Rocket Man

budgeting and preplaning is the key here.  we have winter every year so it
shouldn't be a surprise when it arrives.  in this region lp gas, natural gas
and #2 heating fuel all takes a big dive in price during july and august.  i
prepurchase my natural gas for the house for an entire year during this
time.  my business runs off of lp gas and we have a large enough tank to see
us through the entire winter.  we get it filled during this time also.  try
getting a second tank and filling them both during the low swing of heating
fuel prices.
michael
Picasso - 23 Dec 2007 13:03 GMT
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
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> fuel prices.
> michael

That is a good idea

And i wouldn't be using furnace oil in my 06 chevrolet diesel!!!!

I would however use street diesel in my furnace...

Another option would be to find someone who buys Tax Exempt diesel
(Skidders, forestry equipment, construction equipment, off road trucks)
this stuff is 30 cents / L cheaper.  I'm sure you have the same deal in
the USA.
 
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