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Glytter77 - 15 Jul 2008 03:41 GMT
I'm looking for a few upgrades for my 04 Dakota 3.7 liter v6 magnum engine.
I'm looking for a cold air intake and anything to help boost my gas mileage.
I know that I'm probably not going to get much, but anything has got to
help. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Glytter77

04 Dakota V6
01 Mustang GT Convertible
01 Firebird Formula
71 Firebird
Carolina Watercraft Works - 15 Jul 2008 04:23 GMT
Does that have a manual clutch fan or electric?

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> I'm looking for a few upgrades for my 04 Dakota 3.7 liter v6 magnum
> engine. I'm looking for a cold air intake and anything to help boost my
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> 01 Firebird Formula
> 71 Firebird
Glytter77 - 17 Jul 2008 23:21 GMT
Its an automatic transmission.
> Does that have a manual clutch fan or electric?
>
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>> 01 Firebird Formula
>> 71 Firebird
Carolina Watercraft Works - 18 Jul 2008 14:02 GMT
The transmission has nothing to do with the "fan".

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> Its an automatic transmission.
>> Does that have a manual clutch fan or electric?
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>>> 01 Firebird Formula
>>> 71 Firebird
Glytter77 - 18 Jul 2008 19:49 GMT
if i knew the answer, id tell u.

> The transmission has nothing to do with the "fan".
>
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>>>> 01 Firebird Formula
>>>> 71 Firebird
Carolina Watercraft Works - 18 Jul 2008 21:52 GMT
Look at the cooling fan behind the radiator.  Does it have a belt
running to it that connects to the other items on the motor?  Or
is it electric and have wires running to a motor?  If you have a
manual clutch on the fan run by the motor, then switching to an
electric fan setup will free up some HP and give you better economy.
It doesn't "add" hp....but you will feel more.  Less work for the
motor = increased economy.

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> if i knew the answer, id tell u.
>
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>>>>> 01 Firebird Formula
>>>>> 71 Firebird
nunya - 21 Jul 2008 15:04 GMT
> Look at the cooling fan behind the radiator.  Does it have a belt
> running to it that connects to the other items on the motor?  Or
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> It doesn't "add" hp....but you will feel more.  Less work for the
> motor = increased economy.

i don't think this guy is qualified to do any upgrades.  if he can't even
figure out what a engine cooling fan is and if it has any relationship to
the transmission.

for the OP.  keep the tires inflated properly, have a tune up and drive the
speed limit.  take the savings from not buying a bunch of upgrades and buy a
few tanks of fuel.
michael
Carolina Watercraft Works - 21 Jul 2008 19:58 GMT
I tend to agree with you.

On another note nunya...not sure if I asked you this before,
but do you play an online game called DFX by chance?

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>> Look at the cooling fan behind the radiator.  Does it have a belt
>> running to it that connects to the other items on the motor?  Or
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> buy a few tanks of fuel.
> michael
nunya - 22 Jul 2008 16:08 GMT
>I tend to agree with you.
>
> On another note nunya...not sure if I asked you this before,
> but do you play an online game called DFX by chance?

i don't play any games.  not enough time for that.
michael
Carolina Watercraft Works - 22 Jul 2008 20:35 GMT
Gotcha, I use it as a stress release for the
complexities of life myself.

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>>I tend to agree with you.
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> i don't play any games.  not enough time for that.
> michael
Glytter77 - 23 Jul 2008 02:36 GMT
Just as an fyi... I'm a female if you can't figure it out by the nick name.
And any upgrades will be done by my husband. I was just looking for some
information.

>> Look at the cooling fan behind the radiator.  Does it have a belt
>> running to it that connects to the other items on the motor?  Or
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> buy a few tanks of fuel.
> michael
nunya - 23 Jul 2008 03:07 GMT
> Just as an fyi... I'm a female if you can't figure it out by the nick
> name. And any upgrades will be done by my husband. I was just looking for
> some information.

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>> i don't think this guy is qualified to do any upgrades.  if he can't even
>> figure out what a engine cooling fan is and if it has any relationship to
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>> and buy a few tanks of fuel.
>> michael

ahhh, i wasn't paying that close of attention to the OP's name just the
topic.  my advice stays the same though.  mods may get you miniscule
increases in mileage but very seldom will they be big enough to warrant the
expense.  good maintenance and driving habits are where the real savings are
at.
michael
Carolina Watercraft Works - 23 Jul 2008 04:37 GMT
I'm getting about 15-20% increase with the fan setup.

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>> Just as an fyi... I'm a female if you can't figure it out by the nick
>> name. And any upgrades will be done by my husband. I was just looking for
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> savings are at.
> michael
nunya - 23 Jul 2008 14:13 GMT
> I'm getting about 15-20% increase with the fan setup.

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back in my serious hotrodding days i used a lot of electric fans.  they let
me down on a couple of occasions but watching the temp gauge keeps it from
becoming critical.  lots of smaller marginalized vehicles use electric fans.
i shy away from them now because i have marginalized all of my electrical
systems.  all of my trucks have at least two or three high power ham radios
and the necessary amps to throw out my signal.  add to this at least two
stereo amps powering massive sound systems in each truck, g.p.s., onboard
laptop computers and an array of other gadgets and i have each amp
calculated and there is no headroom left to add anything.  in fact i have to
add at least two big capacitors into the systems of each truck to meet peak
demand at times.
michael
mac davis - 24 Jul 2008 15:56 GMT
>> I'm getting about 15-20% increase with the fan setup.
>>
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>demand at times.
>michael

Wow.. time for a Honda generator? lol

mac

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Glytter77 - 23 Jul 2008 20:22 GMT
to answer the other question, my husband says that it is and electric
clutch fan.
> I'm getting about 15-20% increase with the fan setup.
>
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>> savings are at.
>> michael
Roy - 23 Jul 2008 21:07 GMT
> to answer the other question, my husband says that it is and electric
> clutch fan.

Electric clutch fan??? Damn I'm getting old. What will they think of next.
Carolina Watercraft Works - 23 Jul 2008 21:25 GMT
I agree.....that must be one of those super dooper hybrid
fans that Mr. Jetson designed.

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>> to answer the other question, my husband says that it is and electric
>> clutch fan.
>
> Electric clutch fan??? Damn I'm getting old. What will they think of next.
Glytter77 - 24 Jul 2008 03:01 GMT
sorry to bother you on this. Guess I will get my info from somewhere else.
>I agree.....that must be one of those super dooper hybrid
> fans that Mr. Jetson designed.
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>> Electric clutch fan??? Damn I'm getting old. What will they think of
>> next.
NapalmHeart - 24 Jul 2008 07:14 GMT
> sorry to bother you on this. Guess I will get my info from
> somewhere else.

These guys just like to poke fun, Glytter.  Don't take that
stuff too seriously.

If you didn't pick it up, it's either an electric-motor
driven fan or an engine-driven fan with a viscous clutch on
it.  If it's driven by a belt, it's not an electric fan.

Ken
nunya - 26 Jul 2008 13:46 GMT
>> sorry to bother you on this. Guess I will get my info from somewhere
>> else.
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>
> Ken

guys,
once again, not trying to sound rude or condescending but this collective
does not sound like they need to be modding a vehicle.  i have never seen an
electric clutch fan either.

glytter,
  it is a truck, if you really want better fuel mileage then you are going
to have to start driving a dodge neon instead of a dodge truck.  most mods
are designed to add power not mileage for a truck.  some of these mods will
add a little mileage if you drive like a grandma but most of us stick our
feet in it just a little harder once we realize a tad more horsepower.
  you can read all kinds of figures and claims from aftermarket
manufacturers but don't buy into the magical silver bullet sales pitch.  as
competative as the vehicle market is, if a major truck manufacturer could
make their truck get significantly better mileage thatn the other guys these
features would come installed at the factory.  it is called free market
competition.  buy yourself a smart car for commuting and only drive the
truck when you *need* a truck if fuel mileage is that big of a concern.
  myself, i like the comfort of my big extended cab truck with a v8 and 11
mpg is the price i pay for that comfort.  b.t.w.  if you are going to wander
into newsgroups a thick skin is required.
good luck,
michael
Glytter77 - 27 Jul 2008 04:53 GMT
FYI, I owned 2 dodge neon's. I use my truck to haul pharmaceuticals. I can't
fit 68 totes in a dodge neon. I'd suggest you get all of your information
before 'suggesting' stuff. I drive 200 miles a day. I was just looking for a
little more gas mileage not a miracle. Sorry if you can't seem to understand
it. I will unsubscribe to this group because you can't seem to do anything
but make sarcastic remarks. Sorry to bother such "smart" men as you all!
Glytter

>>> sorry to bother you on this. Guess I will get my info from somewhere
>>> else.
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> good luck,
> michael
Roy - 27 Jul 2008 12:37 GMT
> FYI, I owned 2 dodge neon's. I use my truck to haul pharmaceuticals. I
> can't fit 68 totes in a dodge neon. I'd suggest you get all of your
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> "smart" men as you all!
> Glytter

You recieved a answer and a question, which you ingnored. Now your upset?

Oh, save the money you'd spend on the cold air intake. The gettin' isn't
worth the goin' imo.

My sympathy to your husband.
Carolina Watercraft Works - 27 Jul 2008 13:33 GMT
> My sympathy to your husband.

ROFLMAO

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>> FYI, I owned 2 dodge neon's. I use my truck to haul pharmaceuticals. I
>> can't fit 68 totes in a dodge neon. I'd suggest you get all of your
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> My sympathy to your husband.
Glytter77 - 28 Jul 2008 00:28 GMT
>> FYI, I owned 2 dodge neon's. I use my truck to haul pharmaceuticals. I
>> can't fit 68 totes in a dodge neon. I'd suggest you get all of your
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>
> My sympathy to your husband.

If you would try to be as helpful as you are sarcastic, then you might
actually help someone. My husband doesn't need anything from you.
Carolina Watercraft Works - 28 Jul 2008 02:04 GMT
Then why did you ask for him?

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>>> FYI, I owned 2 dodge neon's. I use my truck to haul pharmaceuticals. I
>>> can't fit 68 totes in a dodge neon. I'd suggest you get all of your
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> If you would try to be as helpful as you are sarcastic, then you might
> actually help someone. My husband doesn't need anything from you.
Glytter77 - 28 Jul 2008 04:09 GMT
I asked for me, not him. I was just trying to get a few ideas. I didn't want
the BS!
> Then why did you ask for him?
>
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>> If you would try to be as helpful as you are sarcastic, then you might
>> actually help someone. My husband doesn't need anything from you.
NapalmHeart - 29 Jul 2008 12:47 GMT
>I asked for me, not him. I was just trying to get a few
>ideas. I didn't want the BS!

In Usenet, the BS is often part of the total package.

Ken
Roy - 28 Jul 2008 02:40 GMT
>>> FYI, I owned 2 dodge neon's. I use my truck to haul pharmaceuticals. I
>>> can't fit 68 totes in a dodge neon. I'd suggest you get all of your
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> If you would try to be as helpful as you are sarcastic, then you might
> actually help someone. My husband doesn't need anything from you.

I'm sure he has waaaay toooo much of you!<G>
Ed Medlin - 15 Jul 2008 17:05 GMT
> I'm looking for a few upgrades for my 04 Dakota 3.7 liter v6 magnum
> engine. I'm looking for a cold air intake and anything to help boost my
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> 01 Firebird Formula
> 71 Firebird
Performance electronics, like Mopar's performance computer, dual exhaust,
intake spacer, performance/type intake and filter, synthetic lubricating
fluids, MSD or comparable ignition system........and the one that will help
the most...........a light foot........:-).

Ed
.boB - 16 Jul 2008 16:10 GMT
> I'm looking for a few upgrades for my 04 Dakota
> 3.7 liter v6 magnum
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> 01 Firebird Formula
> 71 Firebird

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First, make sure the engine is in good tune -
plugs, wires, cap, rotor, coil.  Nothing fancy
there, just good quality stock replacement parts.
I generally use Bosch and Autolite.   Remove the
throttle body and give it a good cleaning.

A capaciter ignition like MSD, Crane, Mallory, etc
might gain you 1-2mpg, but don't count on it.

Keep the tailgate up, and use a flat bed cover of
some kind.  Caps tend to decrease mileage.

What tires do you have?  Oversized and off road
tires can really suck fuel.

Get rid of as much extra weight as you can.

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2006 FXDI hot rod
2008 Mustang Coupe - 32mpg
2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.

Carolina Watercraft Works - 16 Jul 2008 16:20 GMT
> Get rid of as much extra weight as you can.

You telling him to go on a diet or something?  hehehe

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>> I'm looking for a few upgrades for my 04 Dakota 3.7 liter v6 magnum
>> engine. I'm looking for a cold air intake and anything to help boost
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> 01 Firebird Formula
>> 71 Firebird
John H. Guillory - 18 Jul 2008 01:23 GMT
>> Get rid of as much extra weight as you can.
>
>You telling him to go on a diet or something?  hehehe
Don't be silly, he's saying to drop all the un-used stuff off the side
of the truck while driving down the interstate.... You know, like
tires on diagnal sides (only needed when you stop if you can keep the
speed up and balance your load properly.....)   The engine (only
needed for taking off or when some clutz hits the brake.....),  The
passenger seat, the bed, the hood, the fenders, the bumper....  The
tailgate....  Actually, you'd save a lot of time just buying a sheet
of plywood, 4 of those coaster wheels that screw-on, and either a
large rubber band or a rope to tow from another vehichle to get up
speed to about 90 mph on the interstate....  Once up to speed, just
yell "Get out of the way you moron!" and wear leather, folks will
think your in the hell'sAngels....   Oh yeah, I almost forgot.... To
be street legal, you need to have a friend screw in your license plate
to your butt, and you better carry your registration papers and
insurance papers with you....
Steve W. - 16 Jul 2008 18:46 GMT
>> I'm looking for a few upgrades for my 04 Dakota
>> 3.7 liter v6 magnum
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>> 01 Firebird Formula
>> 71 Firebird

Good tune up with stock parts.
Make sure the tires are in good shape and inflated to the proper pressure.
Don't bother with the "cold air kit". The stock system flows FAR more
air than the engine will ever use and draws it from outside the engine
compartment. 99% of the "cold air kits" get the air from inside the
engine compartment, which is NOT a good place to find cold air.
remove any crap that causes extra drag if possible. Things like roof
mounted light bars, front visors and such.
Learn how to drive for better economy.
Plan your trips so you don't backtrack or make needless trips.
Don't expect miracles. For the most part a truck is a truck and your not
going to get high mileage driving a brick around.

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Glytter77 - 17 Jul 2008 23:23 GMT
I have a camper shell on it due to me hauling stuff in it for work.  the
tires are the same as the stock tires. When I got new ones I didn't change
the size any.
>> I'm looking for a few upgrades for my 04 Dakota 3.7 liter v6 magnum
>> engine. I'm looking for a cold air intake and anything to help boost
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>> 01 Firebird Formula
>> 71 Firebird
 
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