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SteveB - 28 Sep 2008 23:14 GMT How do I get my OBDs to show on my panel lights. Turning on and off the ignition has been discussed, but I'm not sure. And when I do get the readings, where do I go to read about how to interpret them? I know they become looser as the vehicle ages on turning loose these secrets.
Steve
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jmc - 29 Sep 2008 02:06 GMT Suddenly, without warning, SteveB exclaimed (9/28/2008 8:06 PM):
> How do I get my OBDs to show on my panel lights. Turning on and off the > ignition has been discussed, but I'm not sure. And when I do get the > readings, where do I go to read about how to interpret them? I know they > become looser as the vehicle ages on turning loose these secrets. > > Steve on, off, on, off, on (not to engine start, just to panel on). If it's got codes, it'll show them one after another in the odometer, then say P done. Plug the result into a Google search.
What do you mean "looser"?
jmc
SteveB - 29 Sep 2008 05:37 GMT > Suddenly, without warning, SteveB exclaimed (9/28/2008 8:06 PM): >> How do I get my OBDs to show on my panel lights. Turning on and off the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > jmc When I first got my truck new, I wrote in on this, and was told that OBD info was harder to get until the truck was a couple of years old, and by then, a lot of people had figured out how to avoid unnecessary and costly dealership trips.
Steve
Geyser - 29 Sep 2008 04:54 GMT > How do I get my OBDs to show on my panel lights. Turning on and off the > ignition has been discussed, but I'm not sure. And when I do get the > readings, where do I go to read about how to interpret them? I know they > become looser as the vehicle ages on turning loose these secrets. > > Steve http://allpar.com/fix/computer-codes.html has what jmc said, add'l tidbits of information, list of codes.
Tom Lawrence - 29 Sep 2008 05:11 GMT > How do I get my OBDs to show on my panel lights. Turning on and off the > ignition has been discussed, but I'm not sure. And when I do get the > readings, where do I go to read about how to interpret them? I know they > become looser as the vehicle ages on turning loose these secrets. Year, make, model?
SteveB - 29 Sep 2008 05:42 GMT >> How do I get my OBDs to show on my panel lights. Turning on and off the >> ignition has been discussed, but I'm not sure. And when I do get the >> readings, where do I go to read about how to interpret them? I know they >> become looser as the vehicle ages on turning loose these secrets. > > Year, make, model? I figure I only want to hear from people who really know this stuff, so I omitted that thinking that only the intellectually superior would be able to answer the question.
(brain fart, actually)
2006 Dodge 2500 P/U with Cummins
sorry
Steve
Tom Lawrence - 29 Sep 2008 06:55 GMT > 2006 Dodge 2500 P/U with Cummins Well, then the ignition ON-OFF-ON-OFF-ON will display any stored codes on your odometer. Some people have trouble with this. So, first, a couple of definitions. 'ON' is the position of the ignition switch when the dash lights come on, and it's one position away from actually starting the engine (cranking it over). 'OFF' is one position back from 'ON'.
So, the first thing you do, is turn the ignition switch to 'ON'. Then, fairly rapidly, you cycle the key back to OFF, then forward to ON, then back to OFF, then forward once more to 'ON', and leave it there. This should be done within 2 seconds or so.
After you finish cycling the ignition, watch your odometer. If there are no codes displayed, it will just read 'pDone'. If there are codes, they will (usually) be displayed with Pxxxx, where 'xxxx' is a four-digit code. There are other letters that are possible besides the 'P', but that's rare.
Write down each of the codes, then find any of the myriad of web sites that describe the meaning of those codes (I usually just do a Google search for "OBD-II Pxxxx").
Codes that start with '0' or '1' are standardized (for the most part) across manufacturers. Codes that begin with '2' are manufacturer-specific, so keep that in mind during your searches. Obviously, the best source of info. on the meaning of any of the codes is the specific Factory Service Manual for your year/make/model vehicle.
Now - the above is the standard OBD-II diagnostic codes. Your truck also has a separate diagnostic capability for any instrument-cluster-related problems. In the 3rd gen Rams, the IC is really the brains behind any of the systems within the cab... lights, ABS, locks, windows, etc. You can run an instrument cluster diagnostic by holding down the trip reset button on the cluster, turning the key to ON, and releasing the trip reset button. The IC will go through several self-tests, then (possible) display one or more 'C-codes', in the form of "XX nn", where XX is a two-digit alphanumeric code, and nn is the number of ignition cycles that have occurred since the problem was noted.
Since I can't find a location online where all of these are listed, here are the various codes:
01 Airbag warning indicator output circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 02 Airbag warning indicator output circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 03 ABS indicator output circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 04 ABS indicator output circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 05 MIL indicator output circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 06 MIL indicator output circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 07 Wait to start indicator circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 08 Wait to start indicator circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 0B BTSI output circuit shorted or open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 22 Headlamp switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 23 Headlamp switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 24 Turn hazard switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 25 Turn hazard swiitch inpot circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 27 Courtesy/dome output circuit shorted or open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 28 Glovebox/map lamp output circuit shorted or open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 29 Cargo lamp output circuit shorted or open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 40 Wiper switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 41 Wiper switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 42 Wash/beam input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 60 Passenger door lock switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 61 Passenger door lock switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 62 Passenger door lock switch input circuit stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 63 Driver door lock switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 64 Driver door lock switch input circuit open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 65 Driver door lock switch input circuit stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 66 All door lock output circuit shorted to ground or voltage. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 67 All door unlock output circuit shorted to ground or voltage. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 68 Driver door unlock output circuit shorted to ground or voltage. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 6C Driver cylinder lock switch input circuit shorted. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 6E Driver cylinder lock switch input circuit stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 80 Incorrect odometer value found. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 81 Remote radio switch input circuit high. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 82 Remote radio switch stuck. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. A0 Internal module FLASH memory checksum failure. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. A1 Internal module bootloader failure. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. A3 Battery voltage open. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. A5 TCCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. A7 VIN checksum error. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. A8 VIN previously stored. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. A9 PCI bus internal failure. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. AA PCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. AB TCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. AC ABS messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. AD FCM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. AE ACM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. AF SKIM messages not received. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. B0 RKE fob batteries low. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. B1 RKE module communication link. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information. 00 Done All Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) have been displayed.
SteveB - 30 Sep 2008 05:09 GMT >> 2006 Dodge 2500 P/U with Cummins > [quoted text clipped - 131 lines] > information. > 00 Done All Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) have been displayed. Thanks. I'm so glad you wrote it down. My brain don't work that fast any more. It will take me a few tries to get it written down to analyze.
Steve
jmc - 29 Sep 2008 21:53 GMT Suddenly, without warning, SteveB exclaimed (9/29/2008 2:38 AM):
>>> How do I get my OBDs to show on my panel lights. Turning on and off the >>> ignition has been discussed, but I'm not sure. And when I do get the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Steve
::Takes a bow:: Why, thank you :)
jmc
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