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axel - 12 Dec 2008 04:27 GMT
Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup V8 5.9l 2WD 126k miles

Looking for some advice on tires.  265/70 R16
I had Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza 683 and H/T 689 on it and I have
been very happy with them.  I am in Florida, so snow handling is not a
consideration but the tire needs to perform on wet roads because if it
rains here, it rains a lot.  I am driving highway only, so I also
don't need all terrain.  I wan't a tire that lasts a long time (high
millage).

I am not looking for a philosophical discussion, but real world
experience.  Again, I am not opposed to buy the same tire again as it
has treated me well, but if I can do better, I would like to.

Thanks in advance.
Axel
.boB - 12 Dec 2008 05:41 GMT
> Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup V8 5.9l 2WD 126k miles
>
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> Thanks in advance.
> Axel

I use Michelin LTX.  Since I live in CO, I use the
M/S version.   This is an excellent tire.  The
last set went for 50K miles.  I bought a new set
because one of them got a big hole in it.
Otherwise they would have gone another 5-10K
miles.   The tire is so good, I bought another
set.

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.boB
2006 FXDI hot rod
2008 Mustang Coupe
2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.
Carolina Watercraft Works - 12 Dec 2008 06:40 GMT
I agree.  And plus, the M/S version actually gives you better
traction, when needed, and higher mileage than the A/S that
came stock on my Ram.  It's a great tire and worth some
serious consideration.  I just put a set on myself.  I will always
run the LTX M/S.

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>> Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup V8 5.9l 2WD 126k miles
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> 2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
> 1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.
Carolina Watercraft Works - 12 Dec 2008 15:15 GMT
Make that I just put another set on.  I've been running the M/S since
the first OEM set wore out.  '01 Ram

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>I agree.  And plus, the M/S version actually gives you better
> traction, when needed, and higher mileage than the A/S that
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>> 2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
>> 1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.
M.Balarama - 13 Dec 2008 22:39 GMT
>> Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup V8 5.9l 2WD 126k miles
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> because one of them got a big hole in it. Otherwise they would have gone
> another 5-10K miles.   The tire is so good, I bought another set.
I second the Michelin-I bought four at sams years ago-they still have tread
at 80,000 miles
they are the best tires...
hve them on my wifes toyota-- cost a bit more but they really last
axel - 14 Dec 2008 19:56 GMT
Thanks for the answers.  Through a friend of mine I was able to access
consumer reports and the tire you are all recommending was 5th on the
list of their ratings.  The thread life rating confirms your
experience with the tire lasting long, my personal experience with
Michelin tires on a previous car is very different however.
I am not opposed to spend some more money for a good tire.  The only
concern I have based with the Michelin's on the rating is, that this
tire only shows a fair rating for wet handling.  Again, snow and ice
traction is irrelevant for me here in Florida, but wet handling is
important.  Any thoughts?

Also, the consumer report lists Continental CrossContact LX with some
excellent ratings.  Anybody out there having that tire on and would
share his experience?

Axel
Roy - 14 Dec 2008 20:21 GMT
I wouldn't place a whole heck of a lot of credence in consumer reports. For
a recent example. Their top recomended washing machine is subject of a
couple of class action suits 'cause they are failing. That has been reprted
heavily in the Daytona- Orlando  area

I'm aware that isn't tires but....

You might want to check Tire Rack, they have reviews and stuff there.

> Thanks for the answers.  Through a friend of mine I was able to access
> consumer reports and the tire you are all recommending was 5th on the
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> Axel
Carolina Watercraft Works - 15 Dec 2008 00:10 GMT
Yes, T/R has input from actual customers.  As for wet weather handling,
I've never ever had a problem with my LTX M/S.

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>> Axel
dave - 15 Dec 2008 16:04 GMT
My dad and I both have '06 Dodge RAM 2500 with the Cummins.  I have the
Michelin LTX M/S and he has BFG A/T.  I consistently get 4 or 5 MPG better
than he does.  Michelin tires have some of the best rolling resistance
coeffients that I have found so far.

As far as traction in the wet, I have not had any problems when I am driving
civilized.  I even towed a U-Haul trailer in light snow and ice 2 weeks ago
and have no complaints.  My only experience with problems in the wet weather
is hydroplaning while driving 75 in pouring rain.  I was going too fast for
the road conditions.

I now have 40,000 miles on mine and will probably buy the same when the
tires wear out.  They have about 1/2 of the tread left still.  I tow a
10,000# toyhauler about 15% of my miles and have not noticed any stability
problems (sidewall flexing) while loaded.

If you look at the rating on tirerack.com, you will notice that people that
don't like the Michelin LTX M/S tires describe their driving style as
"spirited", while people that list normal driving style like them.

> Yes, T/R has input from actual customers.  As for wet weather handling,
> I've never ever had a problem with my LTX M/S.
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>>> Axel
jmc - 16 Dec 2008 21:00 GMT
Suddenly, without warning, .boB exclaimed (12/12/2008 12:41 AM):
>> Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup V8 5.9l 2WD 126k miles
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> 2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
> 1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.

Second, third or fourth (whichever) the recommendation for the Michelin
LTX M/S tires.  Have them myself, a couple of years now, and they are
excellent in all conditions - wet, sand, snow and dry.

Can't say to their mileage yet, but after 3 years they do still look new
:) and I bought them on recommendations from this NG back then.

jmc
Sam Alcorn - 16 Dec 2008 18:25 GMT
axel <ulrich.axel@gmail.com> wrote in news:8bde4e74-6534-4b46-bd31-
40c5ed11d91b@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup V8 5.9l 2WD 126k miles
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> Thanks in advance.
> Axel

I can't speak for experience on a Dodge but, when you talk tires, does
model really matter.

I drive about 100k miles per year on a Ford E-150 van. I change tires,
roughly, about twice a year. I changed to Yokohoma Geolander on my vehicle
and about 4 other company trucks several years ago. I drive personnel and
equipment up and down the Texas coast, from one end to the other so get to
experience some very hot pavement and, ocassionally, some very heavy rains.
It isn't unusual for me to have a total of 4 people in the vehicle and load
equipment ranging up to 600 lbs. To give an rough example of the kind of
loads I routinely carry, one of the very first things done to the vehicle
when we bought it was to add dual leaf helper springs on the rear end and,
at least once a week, I leave the office with the vehicle sitting on the
rubber blocks at the rear end. All of this to give you a rough impression
of the stress that the tires are under. Hell, I have front brake jobs done
on this truck more than I change tires.

It is, without a doubt, the smoothest riding tire I have ever experienced
on a vehicle. I have the tires rotated somewhere in the 15 - 20k range on
all the vehicles. I consistently get 70 - 80k miles out of a set of tires
on all of the vehicles. All of the other company vehicles are driven by a
range of people from 21 - 72 years of age and there is probably not 10% of
those people that do not know where the governor is set on each of our
vehicles.

These tires get exposed to some pretty extreme conditions and yet still,
consistently, give us 70 - 80k miles per set. Since changing to these
tires, we have not experienced a single blowout in our fleet ( I know, 5
isn't really a fleet) and have only had about 10 flats in that time period.

And, yes, everyone of these vehicles were bought with Michelin Lts on them.
The very first stop they make from the dealer lot is the local tire shop.
 
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