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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / December 2008

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.boB - 17 Dec 2008 06:07 GMT
New to me anyway.  I've been driving a '01 Dakota
QC since 2000.  Nice truck, but time for it to go
for a variety of reasons.

Bought a '07 Ram 2500 QC with the CTD, auto, and
4x4.  What a nice truck this is.  Lots of torque.
My only experiance with diesel has been military
vehicles, and rental trucks.  So I don't know a
whole lot about them.  I have no plans to mod this
truck.  Performance wise it's fine just the way it
is.   I'll add some comfort items, and maybe some
appearance items.  No lift kits, CAI, tuners, or
exhaust mods.  I'll consider some longevity items,
like a sector shaft support.  Otherwise, nothing
planned.   The name of the game is longevity and
reliability, not performance.  I have a car for
that.

I do have one question.  What is the optimum
operating temp for this diesel, 190-200*?

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.boB
2006 FXDI hot rod
2008 Mustang Coupe
2007 Ram 2500 QC CTD/Auto/4x4
1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.
Steve Lusardi - 18 Dec 2008 04:01 GMT
About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that temp.
in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support for one?
Steve

> New to me anyway.  I've been driving a '01 Dakota QC since 2000.  Nice
> truck, but time for it to go for a variety of reasons.
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> 2007 Ram 2500 QC CTD/Auto/4x4
> 1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.
.boB - 18 Dec 2008 06:28 GMT
> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes
> awhile to reach that
> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft,
> let alone a support
> for one? Steve

That's about what I thought.  It really does take
a long time to heat up in the winter.  Even after
letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes, it took
quite a while to heat up.  Much longer than my 5.9
gas engine.  And it was only about 20* out.  I
installed the Dodge winter cover, too.

The sector shaft is through the middle of the
steering box.  The pitman arm is connected to it.
Apparently due to weight and strain, that shaft
can wear out rather quickly and cause poor
steering response.

http://www.thedieselgarage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58674

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.boB
2006 FXDI hot rod
2008 Mustang Coupe
2007 Ram 2500 CTD/Auto/4x4
1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.
Roy - 18 Dec 2008 09:04 GMT
>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
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> quite a while to heat up.  Much longer than my 5.9 gas engine.  And it was
> only about 20* out.  I installed the Dodge winter cover, too.

Letting a Cummins idle isn't really the best thing for it. The cooling
system is real efficent, so it will warm a bit then cool. You'd be better
off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. Or plug it in.
SteveB - 18 Dec 2008 16:15 GMT
>>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
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> system is real efficent, so it will warm a bit then cool. You'd be better
> off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. Or plug it in.

I start mine up daily and let it warm up before I get in it.  My manual says
nothing about letting it warm up.  Where I live is four miles from the
freeway.  Am I supposed to drive around for fifteen minutes before I get on
the freeway?  What's the difference between letting it warm it up in the
driveway and driving it slow for fifteen minutes?

Steve
Roy - 18 Dec 2008 20:29 GMT
>>>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>>>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
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> the freeway.  Am I supposed to drive around for fifteen minutes before I
> get on the freeway?

Nope, in your case, start it up and stand on it. Let us know how that works
for you.
SteveB - 18 Dec 2008 22:02 GMT
>>>>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>>>>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
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> Nope, in your case, start it up and stand on it. Let us know how that
> works for you.

If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it off.
I'll do whatever I want with it.  But I'm afraid that with your control
freak issues, it will not be okay.  In that case, just cope.  You're an
adult.

BTW, page 254 of the owner's manual sez:

If temperatures are below 32 F, operate the engine at moderate speeds for
five minutes before full loads are applied.

Re: lower temps, on the same page, it sez:

Avoid prolonged idling in ambient temperatures below 0 F.

There is information on manifold air preheating, engine block heaters, etc,
also.

You DO have an owner's manual, don't you?

No, you only WANT to own a Dodge truck some day? ................

sigh .......................

As to the OPs question, and others who have contributed, the best thing to
do is read your manual until you understand it.  Particularly the WAIT TO
START light, if your truck is so equipped.

Steve

Steve
Roy - 18 Dec 2008 22:28 GMT
>>>>>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>>>>>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
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>
> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it off.

Is that supposed to impress anybody here?

I told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. Ya should have
listened.

Folks gotta be smilin' now.

> I'll do whatever I want with it.  But I'm afraid that with your control
> freak issues, it will not be okay.  In that case, just cope.  You're an
> adult.

You asked a question I answered YOU expilcitly. Now your unhappy. Next time
don't ask.

> BTW, page 254 of the owner's manual sez:
>
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>
> No, you only WANT to own a Dodge truck some day? ..

Yup, ya got me sherlock, I never owned a Dodge truck and have no knowledge
of diesels.

> sigh .......................
>
> As to the OPs question, and others who have contributed, the best thing to
> do is read your manual until you understand it.  Particularly the WAIT TO
> START light, if your truck is so equipped.

What Dodge diesel truck  made in the last 14 years dosent' have a wait to
start light?
SteveB - 18 Dec 2008 23:05 GMT
>> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it off.
>
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> What Dodge diesel truck  made in the last 14 years dosent' have a wait to
> start light?

My '06 has one, but it only comes on in cold weather.  The weather where I
live does not activate it, so I have never seen it.  So, it does, but it
doesn't.  I'm sorry if I embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck.
The sales lady was sure happy.

Steve
Roy - 19 Dec 2008 00:18 GMT
>>> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it off.
>>
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> doesn't.  I'm sorry if I embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck.
> The sales lady was sure happy.

The only one that should be embarrassed is you. But you don't get it, but
you will.
SteveB - 19 Dec 2008 01:11 GMT
>>>> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it
>>>> off.
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> The only one that should be embarrassed is you. But you don't get it, but
> you will.

You gonna stalk me, or what?
Roy - 19 Dec 2008 02:15 GMT
>>>>> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it
>>>>> off.
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>
> You gonna stalk me, or what?

Nah, I'll just point out when you've been a a.shole. So far that's been
frequent.
SteveB - 19 Dec 2008 16:12 GMT
>>>>>> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it
>>>>>> off.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Nah, I'll just point out when you've been a a.shole. So far that's been
> frequent.

I'm glad you finally have a purpose in life, Roy.  But I won't make it easy
for you.  In a few hours, I will be leaving for La'wai Kauai, Hawaii.  I'll
be gone for ten days.  In the meantime, do not forget your mission, and
gather as much information as you can.  BTW, we'll be driving the Dodge, and
I'll report on the mileage.  ;-)

Steve
Roy - 19 Dec 2008 20:39 GMT
>>>>>>> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it
>>>>>>> off.
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> I'm glad you finally have a purpose in life, Roy.  But I won't make it
> easy for you.

You make it easy every time you post.

> In a few hours, I will be leaving for La'wai Kauai, Hawaii.  I'll be gone
> for ten days.

Now I don't have to feel like a proctologist.

> In the meantime, do not forget your mission, and gather as much
> information as you can.

Information?? About you? Nah, know all I have to.

> BTW, we'll be driving the Dodge, and I'll report on the mileage.  ;-)

To Hawaii? That will be interesting.
SteveB - 19 Dec 2008 21:04 GMT
>>>>>>>> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it
>>>>>>>> off.
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> To Hawaii? That will be interesting.

Hey, look, everyone!  I got another bite!

You make it too easy, Roy.

Bwahahaha

Steve, who is really leaving now to DRIVE to the airport in Las Vegas,
although he knows a shortcut to La'wai.
Roy - 19 Dec 2008 21:16 GMT
>>>>>>>>> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove
>>>>>>>>> it off.
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> Steve, who is really leaving now to DRIVE to the airport in Las Vegas,
> although he knows a shortcut to La'wai.

No pal, you continue to play. When I'm done with you I'll put you back on
the shelf.
SteveB - 29 Dec 2008 05:31 GMT
>>>> BTW, we'll be driving the Dodge, and I'll report on the mileage.  ;-)
>>>
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>>
>> You make it too easy, Roy.

Well, the mileage on the DODGE was 17.2

The mileage on the 757 was 2.56 gallons per mile.  188 passengers and a full
crew, so some math head will have to figure the mpg per person.

Kauai, Hawaii.  Saw all of it, every beach, every main section of road, and
most waterfalls.  A highly suggested trip, sharply contrasting from the Las
Vegas carnival atmosphere of the larger islands.  I'd move there is a
heartbeat, and could still keep in touch with Roy.

Steve
SteveB - 18 Dec 2008 16:15 GMT
>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> 2007 Ram 2500 CTD/Auto/4x4
> 1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.

I see big trucks all the time that have a canvas screen in front of their
radiators, and it's only like a quarter open.  We drove last night down from
a town 30 miles from us.  Nearly a white out on the freeway.  Slow going on
a bad stretch of road.  When I got home, I had icicles on my front grill,
and the temp gauge was one needle width under the 190.

Steve
.boB - 18 Dec 2008 16:36 GMT
> I see big trucks all the time that have a canvas
> screen in front of
> their radiators, and it's only like a quarter
> open.

Dodge sells a radiator cover.  From what I read,
it's the best around.  I paid $135 for it at the
dealer.  It took me about 15 minutes to install.
And that includes opening the box and reading the
instructions.  It has flaps to open and close
depending on the weather.  Driving down the
highway last night I had only two flaps open.
Engine temp was just a little below 200*; right
where it is supposed to be.

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.boB
2006 FXDI hot rod
2008 Mustang Coupe
2007 Ram 2500 CTD/Auto/4x4
1965 FFR Cobra -  427W EFI, Damn Fast.
 
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