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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / January 2009

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Odd (tire?) noise in 2500

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PeterD - 28 Jan 2009 14:41 GMT
Was headed back at about 70% load (say about 1500 lb) in the 2500 and
it developed a 'funny' noise. (God do I hate funny noises!) The onset
was sudden (I noticed something was wrong, and a few seconds later my
wife with me mentioned "what is that funny noise"). This makes me
suspect it is not a bearing, but what the hell, I don't know that for
a fact!

The noise is similar to a tire delaminating, it is cyclic to tire
revolutions. I checked brakes and decided to replace the rear pads
(one was worn badly), the front brakes look good.

I have inspected the tires and see nothing visual wrong, but there
could be a hidden delamination. Weather doesn't give me an opportunity
to rotate the tires one by one until later this week, but I'll do that
next.

I can't localize the noise to front/rear! With the window open, I
can't hear it, but with the window closed it is noticable.

Any thoughts?
Craig C. - 28 Jan 2009 14:53 GMT
> Any thoughts?

Without actually hearing the sound I can't be sure of this next
comment ... if you're getting a "whump, whump, whump", it is likely
that you have "flat spots" on your tires.  This is usually a result of
running them at lower than recommended pressure and not rotating them
often enough.

Craig C.
Steve Lusardi - 28 Jan 2009 19:54 GMT
My guess is you have lost a universal joint. This is especially true if you
have a long bed and a 2 piece shaft.
Steve

> Was headed back at about 70% load (say about 1500 lb) in the 2500 and
> it developed a 'funny' noise. (God do I hate funny noises!) The onset
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>
> Any thoughts?
PeterD - 28 Jan 2009 22:04 GMT
>My guess is you have lost a universal joint. This is especially true if you
>have a long bed and a 2 piece shaft.
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>>
>> Any thoughts?

Well, got more interesting today when I went out for a short drive and
a quick plow (broken or not, the snow gotta move!)

Noise got quickly worse and worse. I then realized my brake peddle was
going down way too far--I'd lost brakes at one end or the other. I
figure the front as I just yesterday did the rear brakes, and I'm
reasonably comfident in my work (and rear brakes are simple enough to
do!) to think that they are OK. As well it seems now the noise (much,
much worse, grinding, squeeling, and making other bad, bad sounds)
seems to be coming from the front, perhaps driver's side, wheel.

Tomorrow I've someone else who will plow my driveways so my customers
won't feel too badly, then I'll start tearing down the front end.

I suspected front axle U joints, but they were replaced by the dealer
only a few thousand miles ago, and don't see anything visually wrong
with them at this stage. I know my ball joints in the front are a bit
worn (again, another great move: non-greasable ball joints in a
truck!) but when they fail it is not noise that you hear but the
screams of people saying: "Look out for that wheel!" <g>

Time to start tearing down the rest of the front end. My inspection
the other day was limited to looking to see how much pad I had left,
so it must be something else. I'm thinking I may have a delaminated
pad, but I'm not sure.
Roy - 28 Jan 2009 22:46 GMT
You have manual hubs on it?

>>My guess is you have lost a universal joint. This is especially true if
>>you
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> so it must be something else. I'm thinking I may have a delaminated
> pad, but I'm not sure.
PeterD - 29 Jan 2009 15:50 GMT
>You have manual hubs on it?

No, stock setup. Got the front brakes off this morning and spun each
end. Driver's side noisy as hell... Lot's of grinding and grating
noise. I may have found my problem. Wonder if this is something that
can be warrantied with the 7/70K warranty.

>>>My guess is you have lost a universal joint. This is especially true if
>>>you
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>> so it must be something else. I'm thinking I may have a delaminated
>> pad, but I'm not sure.
Steve W. - 29 Jan 2009 00:01 GMT
>> My guess is you have lost a universal joint. This is especially true if you
>> have a long bed and a 2 piece shaft.
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> so it must be something else. I'm thinking I may have a delaminated
> pad, but I'm not sure.

Cracked rotor that ate the front pads.

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Steve W.

PeterD - 29 Jan 2009 15:50 GMT
>>> My guess is you have lost a universal joint. This is especially true if you
>>> have a long bed and a 2 piece shaft.
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>
>Cracked rotor that ate the front pads.

Thought about that (and a delaminated pad, too) but that's not it.
PeterD - 29 Jan 2009 23:36 GMT
>>>> My guess is you have lost a universal joint. This is especially true if you
>>>> have a long bed and a 2 piece shaft.
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>
>Thought about that (and a delaminated pad, too) but that's not it.

Resolved... Wheel bearing, required replacing the entire hub. First
time I've seen one fail without slowly getting noisy--this sucker went
about 20 miles between first peep of a noise to finally being
undrivable!

Crap, cost me $385 for the hub and $50 for a socket for the hub nut! I
though I had one, but nope, it was too small. Oh well, at least I now
have new brakes all the way around.
 
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