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'03 Dak A/C Drip In Interior

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Joe - 10 Apr 2009 16:03 GMT
2003 Dakota R/T CC - On long trips (an hour or more) with the A/C on
(we're in SoFla), I've noticed that there's a drip into the interior on
the passenger side.  Drip appears to be coming from somewhere beneath the
glove box.

Wondering if this is due to the drain tube being slightly plugged or if
it's something else.  No problems on short trips, only longer ones where
the A/C's been on for a while.

My theory is that when the A/C has been running for a while, the
condensation accumulates and the partially blocked tube gets backed up, so
stuff starts dripping into the passenger compartment.

If this is the case, what's the best way to clear the drain tube?  If it's
not the case, any/all comments/suggestions are most welcome.  Thanks.
mac davis - 10 Apr 2009 16:35 GMT
>2003 Dakota R/T CC - On long trips (an hour or more) with the A/C on
>(we're in SoFla), I've noticed that there's a drip into the interior on
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>If this is the case, what's the best way to clear the drain tube?  If it's
>not the case, any/all comments/suggestions are most welcome.  Thanks.

I have the same problem in our 01 Dakota..
Can't find a drain tube..

I've been doing some reading and beginning to suspect the condenser, but hoping
like hell that's not the problem... EXPENSIVE!

mac

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j-rod - 10 Apr 2009 16:58 GMT
> >2003 Dakota R/T CC - On long trips (an hour or more) with the A/C on
> >(we're in SoFla), I've noticed that there's a drip into the interior on
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>
> Please remove splinters before emailing

I had the same problem with my 02 Dakota.

The drain tube is probably completely blocked. Mine was blocked when it
left the factory. The dashboard had to be removed and the drain tube
reinstalled. I was fortunate that my 02 Dodge Dakota Lemon was still
under warranty.

Look under your truck when the AC is running. Condinstate should be
dripping on the ground. I'll bet no water is dripping.

JAM
Joe - 10 Apr 2009 18:16 GMT
>> >2003 Dakota R/T CC - On long trips (an hour or more) with the A/C on
>> >(we're in SoFla), I've noticed that there's a drip into the interior
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>
> JAM

There's plenty of drip onto the ground outside, so I don't think
the thing is totally plugged - maybe only partially.

That said, I know there's some kind of vent tube coming out of
the firewall way down below the tranny filler tube - had a big
issue with that a while ago.

Long story short, the tube points directly towards the front of
the truck, and there used to be a small gap between the tube
and the firewall.  Passenger side _always_ flooded big time
until I found that the gap had to be sealed up to prevent the
blow-back from the tube from entering the passenger compartment
while the truck was moving.  Bad design to have the tube not
point down towards the road.  Dealer sealed it up under
warranty years ago.

The seal still looks ok around the drain tube and the drip I
mentioned up top just started about 6 months ago.  So I figure
that over time the tube got partially blocked.

Here's a link that leads me to believe it's a clogged drain tube:
http://www.justanswer.com/questions/1esjt-1992-dodge-dakota-air-condenser
jmc - 11 Apr 2009 03:13 GMT
Suddenly, without warning, mac davis exclaimed (4/10/2009 11:35 AM):

>> 2003 Dakota R/T CC - On long trips (an hour or more) with the A/C on
>> (we're in SoFla), I've noticed that there's a drip into the interior on
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>
> Please remove splinters before emailing

Welcome to my world.  Truck goes in to get the AC fixed in two weeks.
$1500 is the quote I got.

eep!
John Smith - 11 Apr 2009 07:04 GMT
The fix for the interior leak is to take silicone rtv around the drain tube
to firewall. DO THIS FROM UNDER THE HOOD. The foam seal that was installed
at the factory didnt quite do the job.

Bryan
> 2003 Dakota R/T CC - On long trips (an hour or more) with the A/C on
> (we're in SoFla), I've noticed that there's a drip into the interior on
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> If this is the case, what's the best way to clear the drain tube?  If it's
> not the case, any/all comments/suggestions are most welcome.  Thanks.
Joe - 11 Apr 2009 13:30 GMT
Already did this and the seal is still fine.

> The fix for the interior leak is to take silicone rtv around the drain
> tube to firewall. DO THIS FROM UNDER THE HOOD. The foam seal that was
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>> it's not the case, any/all comments/suggestions are most welcome.
>> Thanks.
nunya - 15 Apr 2009 13:13 GMT
> 2003 Dakota R/T CC - On long trips (an hour or more) with the A/C on
> (we're in SoFla), I've noticed that there's a drip into the interior on
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> If this is the case, what's the best way to clear the drain tube?  If it's
> not the case, any/all comments/suggestions are most welcome.  Thanks.

the drain tube is on the passenger side firewall.  you can carefully pull it
out, its just a rubber plug with a hole, clean it, gently blow the hole that
it came out of clean and then replace with some rtv.  it will either work or
it won't and the attempt is cheap.

there are other issues that can be causing damp floorboards in 93 dak's.  if
the area between the windshield tray and the inner fender fills up with
leaves and debris then the water will not drain properly and will back up
from rain and condesate.
michael
Bruce Porter - 17 Apr 2009 12:53 GMT
>> 2003 Dakota R/T CC - On long trips (an hour or more) with the A/C on
>> (we're in SoFla), I've noticed that there's a drip into the interior on
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> from rain and condesate.
> michael

I've looked for this tube on both by '91 & '03 Dakotas and failed to
find it. Can you tell me where it is in relation to some other items, or
does anyone have a drawing or picture?
nunya - 17 Apr 2009 13:35 GMT
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> I've looked for this tube on both by '91 & '03 Dakotas and failed to find
> it. Can you tell me where it is in relation to some other items, or does
> anyone have a drawing or picture?

it should be pretty obvious.  i own both a 91 and a 93 dakota.  it is on the
passenger side firewall.  it is a black rubber plug with a 90 degree tube
molded in.  i do not think this is a binary group so i won't venture to post
a picture.  what i will recommend is that if you have trucks of this
generation, you should buy a shop manual and that will have a nice pretty
diagram.
michael
Joe - 18 Apr 2009 15:02 GMT
> <snip>
>>
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> will have a nice pretty diagram.
> michael

The tube is right behind the passenger side exhaust manifold and
transmission fill tube towards the bottom.  Mine is just a hole in the
firewall with the end of the tube sticking out about 1/8".  Hard to get
to with the 360 sitting right there in the way.
mac davis - 19 Apr 2009 22:37 GMT
I've looked and looked and can't find anything that looks like that, Joe..
Anyone have a 2001 Dak that they can look at?
Ours has the 4.7L, if that makes a difference..
A picture would be great..
email is fine....

I see a couple of steel pipes/tubes going to into the firewall, but can't locate
anything on the passenger side firewall that looks remotely like a molded plug
with tube or elbow on it..

thanks!

>> <snip>
>>>
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>firewall with the end of the tube sticking out about 1/8".  Hard to get
>to with the 360 sitting right there in the way.

mac

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Joe - 20 Apr 2009 19:31 GMT
mac, I don't have a molded plug or elbow - mine is just a tube sticking
right out of the firewall.  It has a ton of gunk all around it to seal the
gap between the tube and the firewall so blowback doesn't enter the
passenger compartment.  I just took a pic and put it up on photobucket.  
See if this works:

http://tinyurl.com/d5rhn8

I rode around yesterday with max A/C on (85 degrees outside all afternoon)
and checked beneath the truck after I parked it - there's a slight drip
but nowhere near what it should be.  I think the damn tube is partially
clogged.  Hell if I can figure out how to clean it out...

> I've looked and looked and can't find anything that looks like that,
> Joe.. Anyone have a 2001 Dak that they can look at?
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mac davis - 21 Apr 2009 02:03 GMT
>mac, I don't have a molded plug or elbow - mine is just a tube sticking
>right out of the firewall.  It has a ton of gunk all around it to seal the
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>but nowhere near what it should be.  I think the damn tube is partially
>clogged.  Hell if I can figure out how to clean it out...
Thanks, Joe..
I'll look tomorrow morning, it's about 95 in the shade right now and the dak
isn't in the carport.. *sizzle*

I was looking for tubes running IN to the firewall, not OUT.. lol
Sounds like it would be the same thing, but it's not..

mac

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Joe - 21 Apr 2009 11:28 GMT
>>mac, I don't have a molded plug or elbow - mine is just a tube
>>sticking right out of the firewall.  It has a ton of gunk all around
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I hear ya.  Let me know how much room you have in your 4.7 - like it you
can fit something down there to clear it out.  I'd be hard-pressed to
fit any kind of shop vac or even a coat hanger down there.  The pic
makes it look like there's tons of room but it's pretty damn tight.
mac davis - 21 Apr 2009 17:39 GMT
>> I was looking for tubes running IN to the firewall, not OUT.. lol
>> Sounds like it would be the same thing, but it's not..
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>fit any kind of shop vac or even a coat hanger down there.  The pic
>makes it look like there's tons of room but it's pretty damn tight.

Well, company showed up so I'm not going to get to it this morning..
Got 4 ladies singing and line dancing in the great room right now and I'm the
DJ/KJ..

I'm thinking that if I can find the tube and have any room at all, I might try
my vacuum pump from the lathe to "suck it out"..
Just wondering WHAT it might be clogged with, though?

mac

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mac davis - 22 Apr 2009 15:32 GMT
Partially answering my own post...
My neighbor and I looked again this morning.. Can't find it!
Any chance that a 2001 Dakota has a different system to drain it, or something?

If I can get the camera back today, I'll try a couple of pictures... maybe it's
something that we're looking right at but don't recognize it..

>>> I was looking for tubes running IN to the firewall, not OUT.. lol
>>> Sounds like it would be the same thing, but it's not..
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mac

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Joe - 23 Apr 2009 01:54 GMT
> Partially answering my own post...
> My neighbor and I looked again this morning.. Can't find it!
> Any chance that a 2001 Dakota has a different system to drain it, or
> something?

Dunno, mac. I thought the '01 through '03 was the same, but I didn't
design 'em.  That said, I can't see mine even in bright sunlight unless
I'm shining a flashlight down behind the tranny fill tube.

> If I can get the camera back today, I'll try a couple of pictures...
> maybe it's something that we're looking right at but don't recognize
> it..

FWIW, that's what happened to me.  Until a friend of mine showed it to
me with a light, I didn't see it either.  Of course, my Dak's black
which didn't help matters.

As for what's clogging it, I'd guess the typical A/C phlegm.  Same kind
of slime that drips out of your home's central A/C drain, then when you
don't use it for a while it turns sort of hard.
mac davis - 23 Apr 2009 16:40 GMT
>Dunno, mac. I thought the '01 through '03 was the same, but I didn't
>design 'em.  That said, I can't see mine even in bright sunlight unless
>I'm shining a flashlight down behind the tranny fill tube.

We're gonna look again this morning, with another friend..
Sometimes ya just see right past what you're looking for and someone else goes
"oh, that thingy there, sticking out of the firewall?"

>> If I can get the camera back today, I'll try a couple of pictures...
>> maybe it's something that we're looking right at but don't recognize
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>of slime that drips out of your home's central A/C drain, then when you
>don't use it for a while it turns sort of hard.

mac

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mac davis - 23 Apr 2009 22:37 GMT
Replying to my own post again.... sort of like talking to yourself??

Friend came over and looked.. Couldn't see or feel it..
I gave him a flashlight and 2 inspection mirrors.. He crawled under the truck,
laid on top of the engine, etc... No luck..
Frustration? Hell yes..

>>Dunno, mac. I thought the '01 through '03 was the same, but I didn't
>>design 'em.  That said, I can't see mine even in bright sunlight unless
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Joe - 24 Apr 2009 12:13 GMT
> Replying to my own post again.... sort of like talking to yourself??

Heh, I do that a lot.  It happens when you work from home.

> Friend came over and looked.. Couldn't see or feel it..
> I gave him a flashlight and 2 inspection mirrors.. He crawled under
> the truck, laid on top of the engine, etc... No luck..
> Frustration? Hell yes..

Damn!  I'd have thought you could see it with a light.  I can see mine
standing on the side with the light shining down behind the tranny fill
tube.  What's your firewall look like down in that spot where mine comes
out?  Maybe yours is in another spot?
mac davis - 24 Apr 2009 22:57 GMT
>Damn!  I'd have thought you could see it with a light.  I can see mine
>standing on the side with the light shining down behind the tranny fill
>tube.  What's your firewall look like down in that spot where mine comes
>out?  Maybe yours is in another spot?

It's steel, and the center has what looks like an insulated foil fastened to it,
in the middle..
I'm guessing that it's a heat shield for the interior?
It has a few bumps in it but appears smooth with no holes or hoses..

mac

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Joe - 25 Apr 2009 17:01 GMT
>>Damn!  I'd have thought you could see it with a light.  I can see mine
>>standing on the side with the light shining down behind the tranny
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My heat sheild is right below the tube.  Any way you can sort of peel
back the heat shield without damaging it to see what's behind it?  If
the tube's behind it, that might be part of the problem.  At this point
I'm grasping at straws here...
mac davis - 26 Apr 2009 16:05 GMT
>My heat sheild is right below the tube.  Any way you can sort of peel
>back the heat shield without damaging it to see what's behind it?  If
>the tube's behind it, that might be part of the problem.  At this point
>I'm grasping at straws here...
I think the heat shield covers too large an area to have the tube above or below
it..
I'd maybe suspect the idea that it's behind the shield, except that it took 8
years for the problem to appear..

mac

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Bruce Porter - 20 Apr 2009 12:10 GMT
>> <snip>
>>> I've looked for this tube on both by '91 & '03 Dakotas and failed to
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> firewall with the end of the tube sticking out about 1/8".  Hard to get
> to with the 360 sitting right there in the way.

Thanks, that's what I wanted to know.
Do you get at it from underneath, from top, or are both ways just as bad?
Joe - 20 Apr 2009 19:32 GMT
Bruce Porter <b.a.porter@att.net> wrote in news:YKYGl.7$WR2.2@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>>> <snip>
>>>> I've looked for this tube on both by '91 & '03 Dakotas and failed to
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Thanks, that's what I wanted to know.
> Do you get at it from underneath, from top, or are both ways just as bad?

I can't see any way at all to get to it from underneath - looks like
it's only reachable from the top.  Here's a pic I just took:

http://tinyurl.com/d5rhn8
 
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