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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Trucks / April 2009

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'01.5 ram, 6 speed auto tranny?

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Nathan W. Collier - 27 Apr 2009 18:11 GMT
with the recent addition of various power adders my next move is to replace
the torque converter and transmission.  since im replacing the tranny
anyway, are there any 6 speed auto options available for my truck?
thanks,
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
BigIronRam - 27 Apr 2009 21:06 GMT
> with the recent addition of various power adders my next move is to
> replace the torque converter and transmission.  since im replacing the
> tranny anyway, are there any 6 speed auto options available for my truck?
> thanks,
> Nathan In Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

I've heard of T-1000 Allison's being retro-fitted to Dodges from Chevrolets
as well as heavy duty Allisons from medium duty trucks being used.  If
you're serious, and bucks up I think the Chevy retro-fit is the way to go
especailly since yours is 4x4.  I know there was a VERY long thread on
www.dieseltruckresourse.com about it.  Quad 4x4 up your way may know about
it as well.
Nathan W. Collier - 28 Apr 2009 04:37 GMT
> I've heard of T-1000 Allison's being retro-fitted to Dodges from
> Chevrolets as well as heavy duty Allisons from medium duty trucks being
> used.

is this easier than retro-fitting a current production dodge 6 speed?

also i have the banks exhaust brake and controller.  will the controller
work with a tranny different from the 47RE?
thanks,

Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
PeterD - 28 Apr 2009 14:10 GMT
>> I've heard of T-1000 Allison's being retro-fitted to Dodges from
>> Chevrolets as well as heavy duty Allisons from medium duty trucks being
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>also i have the banks exhaust brake and controller.  will the controller
>work with a tranny different from the 47RE?

Personally, I'd ask Banks. I'm sure their knowledge is better WRT
this. (an example, some engines/transmissions the exhaust brake
controller also locks the torque converter, and you'd have to ensure
that is either unnecessary or supported.)

>thanks,
>
>Nathan In Montana
>http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
Nathan W. Collier - 30 Apr 2009 17:41 GMT
thanks everybody.  i was hoping someone would tell me there is a 6 speed
bolt-up.  any opinions on the best 47RE out there?

Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
BigIronRam - 30 Apr 2009 21:02 GMT
> thanks everybody.  i was hoping someone would tell me there is a 6 speed
> bolt-up.  any opinions on the best 47RE out there?
>
> Nathan In Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

I don't know about "best" by any means but I've driven Bill Kondolay's
(sp?) truck with his DTT trans and converter.  It was VERY nice, perfect
shifts and the converter was ideally matched to his engine's (high) power
level.  Had I not run out of patience with the auto in my old truck this is
the wasy I would've gone.
Roy - 01 May 2009 00:58 GMT
>> thanks everybody.  i was hoping someone would tell me there is a 6 speed
>> bolt-up.  any opinions on the best 47RE out there?
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> level.  Had I not run out of patience with the auto in my old truck this
> is the wasy I would've gone.

I had one of Bill's transmissions and converter in a 2002 4X4. Scott at Mass
Diesel did the install and set up. The whole deal was fantastic from the
first phone call, to the finish, first class all the way.
BigIronRam - 28 Apr 2009 16:11 GMT
>> I've heard of T-1000 Allison's being retro-fitted to Dodges from
>> Chevrolets as well as heavy duty Allisons from medium duty trucks being
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Nathan In Montana
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

What I read was the Dodge six speed tranny, good as it is, was too much
software hassles to overcome for a retrofit.  I know on my Ramcharger ('07
5.7 Hemi retrofit) I can't enable the MDS because I don't have a body
control computer, go figure.  The 545 RFE tranny shifts fine though...hmm...

I doubt your Banks stuff will work at all with another transmission but ask
Banks to be certain.
9DodgeFan - 28 Apr 2009 17:24 GMT
> >> I've heard of T-1000 Allison's being retro-fitted to Dodges from
> >> Chevrolets as well as heavy duty Allisons from medium duty trucks being
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>  I doubt your Banks stuff will work at all with another transmission but ask
> Banks to be certain.

You should post some pics of your Ramcharger (or provide a link if you
already have); sounds sweet!
BigIronRam - 29 Apr 2009 16:01 GMT
>> "Nathan W. Collier" <N...@Way.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:->7SdnXzbAPma52vUnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@bresnan.com...
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>You should post some pics of your Ramcharger (or provide a link if you
>already have); sounds sweet!

I've uploaded all the photos I have here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/RobertPStout/Pictures#

link with some of the story here:

http://hotrodlane.cc/PDFFILES/93%2057%20HEMI%20Ram%20Charger.pdf

My "todo" list is getting pretty short now.

1.   Add cruise control

2.  Fix vacuum leak, I can hear it, can't find it.

3.  Fix speedometer, it reads about 60% now.  The Dakoata Digital wasn't
set right to begin with, it was reading about 93%..  Either it's not working
correctly or something else has gone wrong.

4.  Recharge A/C with R-12, despite telling them to use the original R-12 I
FURNISHED R-12 for them and they didn't use it so it has R-134A right now.
That won't work in the Texas summer, pretty inadequate.

Other gripes, the original computer is completely unhooked but remaains in
place behind the battery while the new computer hangs out on the inner
fenderwell.   Why they didn't pull the original and replace it with the new,
I don't know.  The OBD II connector is in the freaking MIDDLE of the
firewall facing UPWARDS to draining rain water.  Sloppy and stupid, IMHO.  I
doubt I'll be moving either of these, the harness is too expensive (and
short) to be fooling with.  I need a protective cover for the OBD II
connector.  The Ramcharger hangs out in the garage when rain is expected,
like today.

Speaking of stupid, and there's multiple culprits here, the transmission
failed completely a couple of months ago.  In the original installation they
hooked up only the radiator cooler, bypassed the factory auxiliary cooler.
Their new cooler lines weren't well done, one of the fittings failed
blocking cooler flow compltetely.  This manifested itself as a stalling
problem when coming to a stop.  Eventually, and it didn't take long you
couldn't get it into drive without it stalling.  I had a transmiision shop
"fix" the problem but it still didn't shift correctly but they said it
shifts fine, no codes so I drove it.  One day it just failed altogether
going down the highway, wouldn't move, couldn't drop it in gear at all
without stalling.  Couldn't force it or bully it into gear, just stalled
like you turned it off.

I called a friend of mine whose full time business is transmissions and he
rebuilt it up right and replumbed the cooler lines correctly, bypassed all
the factory coolers and installed a 30,000 GVW cooler.   The trans works
flawlessly now.  He said the converter clutch failed, converter clutch
material plugged the filter and fried the trans.  I guess it could have been
failing for a while and fouling the solenoid pack?

After that I fixed the shift quadrant to read correctly.  Drive was just a
bit left of indicated neutral and shift effort was very high.  It was hard
to select a gear, they were so close together and applying enough pressure
to the shifter to get it to move you'd overshoot the gear you wanted.  It's
difficult to push (or pull) hard for only a quarter of an inch and stop.
Now it reads correctly and shift effort is higher than stock but quite
normal feeling now.  The original installer told me it was this way because
we replaced a three speed transmission with a five speed, please...both
transmissions have only three detents.  They're just positioned differently.
I fabricated a longer arm for the shift linkage to move the pivot point and
took care of it easily.  That's what the original installer should have
done.

Anyway, had I known all the problems I was going to run into I'd never had
done this.  Now that I'm near the end of the road it almost seems worth it.
It's a VERY nice truck, the pictures aren't good enough.
 
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