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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / January 2005tranny fluid?
If you get your transmission rebuilt, and it's a Dodge van, should the rebuilders put atf+3 or is it ok to put dexroniii/mercon since they rebuilt it? thanks I will never understand why people think they can ignore the fluid spec for Chrysler automatic transmissions. > If you get your transmission rebuilt, and it's a Dodge van, should the > rebuilders put atf+3 or is it ok to put dexroniii/mercon since they rebuilt > it? > > thanks I agree - personally think that is the biggest reason why those Dodge Caravan's are famous for transmission failures. I've seen them go over 200,000 miles running the correct fluid. If your shop put in the wrong fluid you went to the wrong shop. > I will never understand why people think they can ignore the fluid spec > for Chrysler automatic transmissions. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > thanks >>> it's a Dodge van, is it ok to put dexroniii/mercon since they rebuilt >>> it? >> I will never understand why people think they can ignore the fluid spec >> for Chrysler automatic transmissions. > I agree - personally think that is the biggest reason why those Dodge > Caravan's are famous for transmission failures. I've seen them go over > 200,000 miles running the correct fluid. If your shop put in the wrong > fluid you went to the wrong shop. Yep. That said, with Scamsoil droids and assorted others bleating about that sleazy outfit's disinformation propaganda about a "universal" transmission fluid, and various other companies putting out additives they claim will "convert" Dexron to ATF+3, +4, etc., the education effort isn't exactly unilateral. anyone know if ATF +4 will ever hit the aftermarket?? I know Damler's stopped it so far.. > >>> it's a Dodge van, is it ok to put dexroniii/mercon since they rebuilt > >>> it? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > claim will "convert" Dexron to ATF+3, +4, etc., the education effort isn't > exactly unilateral. > anyone know if ATF +4 will ever hit the aftermarket?? I know Damler's > stopped it so far.. They're SOB's. I worked for CarQuest for a few years, and Chrysler parts are rare aftermarket. We had fuel filters and alternators, but few chassis parts or anything else. Chrysler holds on to them for 7-10 years, depending on the model. If the part is obsoleted by a revision or redesign, it hits the market in 7 years. If it is current, it is 10 years or more! >> >>> it's a Dodge van, is it ok to put dexroniii/mercon since they rebuilt >> >>> it? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> claim will "convert" Dexron to ATF+3, +4, etc., the education effort isn't >> exactly unilateral. > I worked for CarQuest for a few years, and Chrysler parts are rare > aftermarket. Horseshit. I've owned Chrysler products for years and seldom ever had trouble finding parts in the aftermarket for recent-model Mopars. > We had fuel filters and alternators, but few chassis > parts or anything else. You must've worked at a much shittier CarQuest than the one I used to shop at routinely. I had no problem getting brake parts, chassis parts, electrical parts, fuel system parts -- pretty much whatever I needed that could reasonably be expected to be available in the aftermarket for any make. > Chrysler holds on to them for 7-10 years Blah, blah, whatever. I've been able to get pretty well anything I want for my 88 Aries or 90 LeBaron, other than some body parts through Kragens here in the Los Angeles area. Mechanical parts - No problem. Autozone's been OK too. Dan >> anyone know if ATF +4 will ever hit the aftermarket?? I know Damler's >> stopped it so far.. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > redesign, it hits the market in 7 years. If it is current, it is 10 years > or more! That's what you get for working for CarQuest I guess, cause it sure wasn't a Chrysler problem. I have owned Chrysler/MOPAR vehicles since the 70's and never had issue getting parts through aftermarket sources. I have a 90 dynasty, run only Chrysler trany fluid and added a cooler with fan, external filter. 100k so far so good. > >> anyone know if ATF +4 will ever hit the aftermarket?? I know Damler's > >> stopped it so far.. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I have owned Chrysler/MOPAR vehicles since the 70's and never had issue > getting parts through aftermarket sources. http://www.oilsandlube.com/atf.htm HarryS >I have a 90 dynasty, run only Chrysler trany fluid and added a cooler with > fan, external filter. 100k so far so good. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> I have owned Chrysler/MOPAR vehicles since the 70's and never had issue >> getting parts through aftermarket sources. > http://www.oilsandlube.com/atf.htm Christ, here we go with the Scamsoil again... > I will never understand why people think they can ignore the fluid spec > for Chrysler automatic transmissions. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > thanks My neighbor owns a muffler repair shop that does general work as well. He started doing transmission overhauls a few years ago. He said he had lots of Caravan trannys that did not last too long after rebuild. He uses Dexron in everything. I gave him the info on ATF+3 and ATF+4, but he continues on his way. It's very profitable because the units do get past his limited warranty. > My neighbor owns a muffler repair shop that does general work as well. > He started doing transmission overhauls a few years ago. He said he > had lots of Caravan trannys that did not last too long after rebuild. > He uses Dexron in everything. I gave him the info on ATF+3 and ATF+4, > but he continues on his way. It's very profitable because the units do > get past his limited warranty. So: He knows. He keeps doing it. Therefore, he's a jerk. Remind us not to go to him for ANY work. What city do you live in, Al? >> I will never understand why people think they can ignore the fluid spec >> for Chrysler automatic transmissions. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > but he continues on his way. It's very profitable because the units do > get past his limited warranty. Nothing a shotgun and/or lawsuit won't take care of... DO NOT use anything but Chrysler transmission fluid, unless you want to replace it again after a year or so, and you will never think of the connection between the fluid and trans failure. Any other fluid will ruin the electric parts in it. Your owners manual may tell you that Dextron 2 can be used in if Chrysler fluid cannot be found. The voice of experience. > If you get your transmission rebuilt, and it's a Dodge van, should the > rebuilders put atf+3 or is it ok to put dexroniii/mercon since they rebuilt > it? > > thanks There is no such thing as "Dextron" fluid. It's Dexron. Without a "T". And you're right, it has no place in an '89 or later Chrysler trans. > DO NOT use anything but Chrysler transmission fluid, unless you want to > replace it again after a year or so, and you will never think of the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > thanks My 88 Aries says Dexron on the dipstick but after changing it to Dexron, it started to shift lousy. A week later I put in Plus 3 and my transmission is back. Dan |
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