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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / September 2006Dodge Intrepid 2.7L engine problems Replace with 3.2
Anyone having problems with the dodge intrepid 2.7 L engine, I have a cheaper and better solution for you. I own an automotive shop and we have been installing the optional 3.2l engine with very successful results, cheaper than a replacement 2.7l. If you have any questions or interest in the 3.2 conversion, feel free to contact me via email. Im just wondering what happens down the road when the vehicle fails a State emissions program, If the labels/vin/engine and all that dont match, it wont fly thru, not to say thats considered tampering (federal offence) And what about the engine controller??? 2.7-3.2??? i belive there is a difference Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech > Anyone having problems with the dodge intrepid 2.7 L engine, I have a > cheaper and better solution for you. I own an automotive shop and we have > been installing the optional 3.2l engine with very successful results, > cheaper than a replacement 2.7l. If you have any questions or interest in > the 3.2 conversion, feel free to contact me via email. The emissions have not been a problem. Vehicles that have been tested have passed. Also the 2.7l ecu will run the 3.2 engines without any problems. State laws vary depending on the state, and there are certain processes in some states that require you to register a vehicle as "rebuilt" in this situation. O...im not refering to now, im talking about a few yrs down the road when they fail, when the numbers dont match and the veci sticker doesnt jive and maybe time for a waiver, or the inspector catches it, like i said, that is considered Tampering. I bouhgt my wife a 2003 sebring with the 2.7............. 5w30 oil every 3k. i wont have a problem Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech > The emissions have not been a problem. Vehicles that have been tested have > passed. Also the 2.7l ecu will run the 3.2 engines without any problems. > State laws vary depending on the state, and there are certain processes in > some states that require you to register a vehicle as "rebuilt" in this > situation. 5w30 Synthetic? Or, dino? > O...im not refering to now, im talking about a few yrs down the road when > they fail, when the numbers dont match and the veci sticker doesnt jive [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> some states that require you to register a vehicle as "rebuilt" in this >> situation. Yeah, I'm only looking for some "helpful" input...I don't think matchbox is gonna do it for me. <<<<Any suggestions on a car <<<<that won't break down before it's paid for? ~A~ How can you answer a question like that? I see these intrepids in my dealer every day, some have up to 300k on them with the 2.7, my brother owns one, he has 98k, my wife has the sebring with the 2.7 she has 33k If I suggested an intrepid what would you have said? I see all makes and models with problems, from Ford to Chevy to Toyota and so on...you asked a rhetorical question!!! 1 a : of, relating to, or concerned with rhetoric asked merely for effect with no answer expected <a rhetorical question> (that is what i gave you) Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech > Yeah, I'm only looking for some "helpful" input...I don't think matchbox is > gonna do it for me. Before the law was revised in 1990, it was only illegal for professional mechanics to remove or disconnect emission control devices. There was nothing to prevent a motorist from tampering with their own vehicles. That loophole has since been plugged. THINGS NOT TO DO Any of the following may be considered emissions tampering and get you into trouble: a.. Removing the EGR valve or plugging its vacuum lines b.. Removing or disconnecting the PCV valve c.. Removing the stock air cleaner and heat riser duct plumbing d.. Removing the catalytic converter e.. Removing or disconnecting the air pump f.. Removing or modifying the stock distributor vacuum advance/retard g.. Altering the stock ignition advance mechanism or timing curve h.. Replacing the stock distributor with an aftermarket unit that is not emissions certified i.. Modifying, removing or replacing the stock computer or PROM chip with a non-certified component j.. Blocking the heat riser duct under the intake manifold k.. Knocking out the filler restrictor on the fuel tank inlet pipe l.. Replacing the stock non-vented gas cap with a vented cap m.. Removing or disconnecting the fuel vapor recovery canister n.. Changing the idle mixture or stock carburetor jetting o.. Removing or modifying the carburetor choke p.. Modifying or replacing the carburetor accelerator pump with non-certified components q.. Installing an intake manifold or racing manifold that lacks provisions for the stock EGR valve and/or a heat riser duct r.. Installing a carburetor that lacks the stock emission hookups s.. Installing non-certified fuel injectors t.. Installing a long duration "racing" cam that is not emissions-certified u.. Installing exhaust headers that lack provisions for a heat riser valve, an air cleaner preheat stove or fittings for an oxygen sensor (if required) v.. Installing valve covers with open breathers or no fittings for a PCV valve w.. Installing any induction, fuel or ignition system component that is NOT emissions legal > The emissions have not been a problem. Vehicles that have been tested have > passed. Also the 2.7l ecu will run the 3.2 engines without any problems. > State laws vary depending on the state, and there are certain processes in > some states that require you to register a vehicle as "rebuilt" in this > situation. THE 3.2 ENGINE USES ALL OF THE 2.7 EMISSION COMPONENTS AND IT OPERATES EXACT SAME AS THE 2.7 WOULD HAVE. NO COMPONENTS IN THE EVAP SYSTEM, CATALYTIC, EGR, ETC ARE REMOVED. also, how is it considered tampering when none of the emissions components are removed or compromised? would it not be the same "tampering" if you were to remove a v6 from a 1981 monte carlo and replace with a 5.7l??? all you are doing is replacing the standard 2.7 with the optional 3.2l---90% of the parts except hoses, intake and radiator are different...... Im not saying it is tampering, I was simply stating...but if you use a different application PCM for another engine i would think that in the eyes of EPA they may consider that tampering > also, how is it considered tampering when none of the emissions components > are removed or compromised? would it not be the same "tampering" if you > were to remove a v6 from a 1981 monte carlo and replace with a 5.7l??? > all you are doing is replacing the standard 2.7 with the optional > 3.2l---90% of the parts except hoses, intake and radiator are > different...... With a name of "toyota1", I wouldn't trust this person's work on my Mopar. My 2.7 has just under 96,000 miles on it. Still has a lot of power, and no smoking, whatsoever. What's the problem? Larry Unlock the Universe | Anyone having problems with the dodge intrepid 2.7 L engine, I have a | cheaper and better solution for you. I own an automotive shop and we have | been installing the optional 3.2l engine with very successful results, | cheaper than a replacement 2.7l. If you have any questions or interest in | the 3.2 conversion, feel free to contact me via email. larry, the problem with the 2.7 is that the oil pickup and passages in the cylinder heads are too small and it causes a large amount of sludge to form, thus reducing the oil flow to the top end, and damaging timing chain and valve train. as these are an interference engine, if the timing chain breaks, pistons hit valves, and so on.. ive seen 2.7s with 40k miles on up to 120k miles fail. it all depends on the maintenance of the vehicle. sorry you feel that way about toyotas, but my truck with 200k miles and original engine, etc, is much more impressive than my dodge intrepid 2.7 that failed with 45k miles on it, and my dodge truck (used to have) that the transmission failed at 70k, and both had had oil changes done every 4k miles since new, trans fluid flush every 25k. it now has a 3.2 with almost 20k miles and is running perfectly. Alot of that is due to using the wrong viscostiy oil, and not changing it at the proper time, i havent seen alot of problems here at the shop except for a few....and they were destroyed because the owners neglected them. Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech > larry, the problem with the 2.7 is that the oil pickup and passages in the > cylinder heads are too small and it causes a large amount of sludge to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > miles since new, trans fluid flush every 25k. it now has a 3.2 with almost > 20k miles and is running perfectly. Most we have seen have been sluged badly, due to maintenance issues, but the intrepid i own had its oil changed every 3000 miles since new, and the timing chain failed at 45k still. wow. i havent even heard of a timing chain failure yet, > Most we have seen have been sluged badly, due to maintenance issues, but > the intrepid i own had its oil changed every 3000 miles since new, and the > timing chain failed at 45k still. Im surprised that you are a chrysler tech and havent seen any chains or 2.7s fail, the local chrysler dealer here says they do 3 to 4 per month-- timing chains or engine replacements due to sludge or lower end failures-- must not be too common yet in your area. I looked up intrepids on the local auto trader and found 12 listed with blown 2.7l engines. yup, being doing it for Chrysler for 26 yrs, You will find that different zones have different problems, If i had to guess i would say there are more of the problems you are talking about in the colder climate areas. and i was still told that most of it was the improper viscosity oil and lack of maintenance > Im surprised that you are a chrysler tech and havent seen any chains or > 2.7s fail, the local chrysler dealer here says they do 3 to 4 per month-- > timing chains or engine replacements due to sludge or lower end failures-- > must not be too common yet in your area. I looked up intrepids on the local > auto trader and found 12 listed with blown 2.7l engines. I don't have sludging problems. Maybe my oil, filter and maintenance combinations work. I don't use Pennzoil. Here's one oil that creates sludge. I've seen it sludge up rebuilt engines in no time. I just can't bring myself to buy a foreign manufacturer's vehicle. Larry Unlock the Universe | larry, the problem with the 2.7 is that the oil pickup and passages in the | cylinder heads are too small and it causes a large amount of sludge to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | miles since new, trans fluid flush every 25k. it now has a 3.2 with almost | 20k miles and is running perfectly. >I don't have sludging problems. Maybe my oil, filter and maintenance >combinations work. I don't use Pennzoil. Here's one oil that creates sludge. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Larry >Unlock the Universe For me, that "foreign manufacturer" builts Corollas only a few miles from my home, and many people in my town make their living there. Another major "foreign manufacturer" (Honda) builds vehicles just over 100km away in Aliston Ont - and there are a significant number of jobs in our area supplying parts etc for that plant as well. Then there is tha "German" company, that builds cars in Bramalea, also within 100km of here, as well as in Windor, Belvedere Ind., Mexico, and at least a dozen other places - the company formerly known as Chrysler. >| larry, the problem with the 2.7 is that the oil pickup and passages in the >| cylinder heads are too small and it causes a large amount of sludge to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >| miles since new, trans fluid flush every 25k. it now has a 3.2 with almost >| 20k miles and is running perfectly. Yes, there are jobs here for "our" people, and their money comes back into their community. But where do the corporate profits go that pays the big officer's salaries? There's still a Pentastar in Highland Park. I know, there is no "American" auto manufacturer anymore, with all the imported parts, assembly across our border, etc. But, at least the assembly portion is North American. Besides, I like Canada. Has lots of pretty areas. A lot of the people are nice, too. Larry Unlock the Universe | For me, that "foreign manufacturer" builts Corollas only a few miles | from my home, and many people in my town make their living there. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | and at least a dozen other places - the company formerly known as | Chrysler. The brand new toyota tacoma that i bought had a sticker on it that listed what percent of the vehicle had been assembled here and what had been done in japan-- it was 25% japan, 75% usa. there were 4-runners there that were 90% usa, so the "foreign" auto manufacturers are constructing or making parts for overseas and assemblitng the vehicles here just as much as the american automakers are-- + ford owns 2 "foreign" manufacturers, and chrysler owns at least 1, and has for a long time, and chryslers real headquarters are in Germany, just as Toyotas' headquarters are in japan== last i new, dieter ziechte, ceo of chrysler, got a 17million dollar bonus last year, and he lives in germany.... I just purchased a 98 Dodge Intrepid, and my engine blew up in it. It only had 83k on it, and i pulled out of work only to hear major rattling and smoking of the engine when i got home. And the sad thing was, I changed the oil once, and i put over 3 quarts of oil back into it before the engine blew up. Luckily, I had a warranty on it, but now my dealer swindled me out of $500 and lied to me about the warranty company. Im in litigations with him now. What a piece of dog turd. I never even got to drive for about 2000 miles. Crap. Ill never buy a dodge again. It looks like you got a used car that someone beat the sh.t out of and now are paying for it.So you really cant blame dodge for this.You just picked a abused car.This happens to alot of people no matter what brand the car is. > I just purchased a 98 Dodge Intrepid, and my engine blew up in it. It only > had 83k on it, and i pulled out of work only to hear major rattling and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > litigations with him now. What a piece of dog turd. I never even got to > drive for about 2000 miles. Crap. Ill never buy a dodge again. The 2.7L engine is known to have a tendency to sludge up. Oil flow to bearings and timing chain gets blocked and the expected problems happen. This isn't the only engine that does it; the Toyota V6 in Camrys and the Sienna minivan is also known to be a sludger. It's still a small minority of the engines that suffer this fate, but more than one would expect these days, when engines routinely go 200K-300K or more between overhauls. The problems are made worse by Severe Service operation, which in reality covers just about EVERYBODY (take a look at the maintenance schedule, which defines severe service; if your driving includes ANY ONE of the conditions noted, that's severe service). Delaying oil changes is a no-no with this engine, and full synthetic oil is said to eliminate the problem since it hardly builds up any sludge. Engine people say that if you have a 2.7L engine, change the oil immediately, use full synthetic oil, and go by the Severe Service schedule. It's altogether possible that the prior owner was one of those slobs who never changes the oil in their cars. > I just purchased a 98 Dodge Intrepid, and my engine blew up in it. It only > had 83k on it, and i pulled out of work only to hear major rattling and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > litigations with him now. What a piece of dog turd. I never even got to > drive for about 2000 miles. Crap. Ill never buy a dodge again. It's not a Dodge problem, you moron. Things like this happen because you're stupid.  SignatureIf you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Linux Registered User #327951 Yes it is. Because dodge buys shitty parts and engines from mitsubishi in japan, is reason why this car needs extreme maintenance schedules. You shouldn't have to be so careful with a car. Thats my dad swears never buy dodge after he owned a 75 charger. It was a piece of sh.t. it broke down every month. id never buy dodge, and don't jump on dodges side, because i know cars. im not a mopar moron. dodge = trash. '75 Charger? What did it look like, and what did it have in it? Larry Unlock the Universe | Yes it is. Because dodge buys shitty parts and engines from mitsubishi in | japan, is reason why this car needs extreme maintenance schedules. You | shouldn't have to be so careful with a car. Thats my dad swears never buy | dodge after he owned a 75 charger. It was a piece of sh.t. it broke down | every month. id never buy dodge, and don't jump on dodges side, because i | know cars. im not a mopar moron. dodge = trash. > Yes it is. Because dodge buys shitty parts and engines from mitsubishi in > japan, is reason why this car needs extreme maintenance schedules. You > shouldn't have to be so careful with a car. OK, that proves beyond a doubt that you are indeed stupid. > Thats my dad swears never buy dodge after he owned a 75 charger. It was > a piece of sh.t. it broke down every month. Sounds like the stupidity runs in the family. Do you or your dad know the meaning of "scheduled maintenance"? > id never buy dodge, and don't jump on dodges side, because i > know cars. im not a mopar moron. dodge = trash. OK, you're not a "mopar moron", you're just a "regular" MORON. Go buy a Chevy and bother those people in their newsgroup. Stay the f.ck out of here, dipshit. SignatureIf you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Linux Registered User #327951 you want to explain to me how i am stupid? and ill gurantee you my dad knows a hell of alot more about cars then you could wish you could know. my maintenance schedule was proper, as a matter of fact, i had my oil changed before the car even needed an oil change. and don't forget, i owned this car for 2 and half months. i think your just a die hard dodge fan, and you just absolutely LOVE to work on cars just like FORD people. i don't see how i am a moron because it isnt my fault that the car was a POS. how could you say i am a moron, when i took good care of the vehicle, and checked the oil at every gas fill up and it just burned oil. how about that for dodge? i put 3, count em, 3 quarts of oil back into the dodge over a period of time because it burned it. i can pull up a whole list of people i know that has more problems than they can count on the fingers with their dodges. how does that make me a moron? because i am smarter than you are, and buy chevrolets? how about my dad has been chevys for years, and we have had no serious problems with them whatsoever other than door locks no working. which is minimal compared engine damage and head gasket like dodge. we have owned over 5 chevy astro vans, and they all had 300k miles plus on them before we got rid of them. my parents last lumina (1992) ran to 212k and we got rid of it because my mom was bitching about a new car. we then bought another (1997) lumina, and it has 207k on it. i dont think chevys are Pieces of sh.t either. im sorry you feel that way about me, but i just proved you wrong. the only way that i would be a moron is because i bought a dodge. oh, by the way, quit bitching. > you want to explain to me how i am stupid? and ill gurantee you my dad > knows a hell of alot more about cars then you could wish you could know. OK, I'll explain to you why you are stupid. Because..... you come in here saying "dodge's suck" with no real basis. You seem to have had ONE bad experience with ONE Dodge. That doesn't make ALL Dodges suck. See? Do you see now why you are stupid to say that? Also, you cannot possibly "gurantee" that your dad knows more than me, because you absolutely do not know how much I know. Get it? > i think your just a die hard dodge fan, and you just absolutely LOVE to > work on cars just like FORD people. Nope, I'm just an average Dodge fan, I own 3 of them at the moment, and love all 3. Haven't had one single problem with any of them. I've also owned two others that I have sold (in perfect running condition). I don't really like to work on cars, although I do occasionally. > i don't see how i am a moron because it isnt my fault that the car was a > POS. how could you say i am a moron, when i took good care of the If it was a POS, why did you buy it? That makes you a moron. See? > i can pull up a whole list of people i know that has more problems than > they can count on the fingers with their dodges. And I can produce a (probably larger) list of people I know that don't have problems with their Dodges. What does that prove? > im sorry you feel that way about me, but i just proved you wrong. You did? You *proved* it? How? > only way that i would be a moron is because i bought a dodge. OK, so you do admit to being a moron, then. I mean, you bought a Dodge, so according to YOU, you must be a moron. Is that right? SignatureIf you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Linux Registered User #327951 This sounds like the rantings of an adolescent. "My dad can beat up your dad!" Every auto manufacturer has some "bad" cars on the street. For every post from someone who has trouble with one Mopar and claims all Mopars are bad, there's a hundred satisfied Mopar owners that you don't see posts from. So you didn't have "trouble" with any of your chebbies, doesn't mean other people don't have lots of trouble with them. Considering, General Maintenance set a record for recalls this year. In fact, these guys have the highest recall rate than all other manufacturers, combined. Not to mention the cheating of their customers, like putting chebby engines in the Oldsmopiles and charging the higher price. Nah, I'll stay with my Mopars little kid. Larry Unlock the Universe <<<snipped the B.S.>>> my dad bought a brand new CHEVROLET and it went 11 miles before it broke down mark of excellence my --- Not a mitsubishi engine > Yes it is. Because dodge buys shitty parts and engines from mitsubishi in > japan, is reason why this car needs extreme maintenance schedules. You > shouldn't have to be so careful with a car. Thats my dad swears never buy > dodge after he owned a 75 charger. It was a piece of sh.t. it broke down > every month. id never buy dodge, and don't jump on dodges side, because i > know cars. im not a mopar moron. dodge = trash. What's a 75 Charger? He hasn't answered that! Larry Unlock the Universe | > Yes it is. Because dodge buys shitty parts and engines from mitsubishi in | > japan, is reason why this car needs extreme maintenance schedules. You | > shouldn't have to be so careful with a car. Thats my dad swears never buy | > dodge after he owned a 75 charger. It was a piece of sh.t. it broke down | > every month. id never buy dodge, and don't jump on dodges side, because i | > know cars. im not a mopar moron. dodge = trash. and also, dont think i put 3 quarts into engine when i changed the oil. i put 5.5 quarts like it says, and i ended up putting 3 more quarts over the time perioud that i had the car. moron. and also, dont think i put 3 quarts into engine when i changed the oil. i put 5.5 quarts like it says, and i ended up putting 3 more quarts over the time perioud that i had the car. moron. Posting the same twice? Who is the moron? Larry Unlock the Universe | and also, dont think i put 3 quarts into engine when i changed the oil. i | put 5.5 quarts like it says, and i ended up putting 3 more quarts over the | time perioud that i had the car. moron. dont get anal with me pal. i didnt post it twice. What is needed for the change over? What change over is needed to install a 3.5 We havent done a 3.5 yet, but are changing them to 3.2L-- Im sure it is possible to do a 3.5L, as for the most part they are the same as the 3.2, except for displacement--as far as computer differences in the 3.5L, not sure, but the 3.2 is the same as the 2.7... There are several minor things required to do the changeover from a 2.7 to 3.2--- air intake piping, dipstick tube, throttle and cruise cables, heater and radiator hoses, and a power steering line. The right exhaust pipe has to be shortened and an oil cooler added. other than that, the a/c lines have to be rerouted to the top of the engine. We've been getting engines with all the accessories, starter, alt, p/s, etc, already attached. Wiring is all the same... its a matter of 3 plugs near the ecm.... they have gone very smoothly so far and can be done in about 2 days-- if you have a lift and the equipment. we just drop the cradle engine and all out the bottom of the car, change everything over, and install it back in. The 2.7 ecu and wiring will run the 3.2 no problem. I'm getting ready to do the change over from the 2.7l to the 3.2l. I have several questions that would be rather lengthy to post. Would you consider e-mailing me your phone number and we could discuss?? Thanks!! I have done a 2.7 to a 3.2 engine swap. For a week or so it ran great then it went in to the safe mode. where the check engine light flashes and slows you down to a stop. I then unhooked the battery for about 15 min. Hooked it back up and ran good for about a week then it did it again. Someone told me the ecm was over loading and would have to install the 3.2 ecm. I bought the one the 3.2 engine was with. Put it on and nothing. So I bought the bcm (body control module) put it on and nothing. Any help? I have done a 2.7 to a 3.2 engine swap. For a week or so it ran great then it went in to the safe mode. where the check engine light flashes and slows you down to a stop. I then unhooked the battery for about 15 min. Hooked it back up and ran good for about a week then it did it again. Someone told me the ecm was over loading and would have to install the 3.2 ecm. I bought the one the 3.2 engine was with. Put it on and nothing. So I bought the bcm (body control module) put it on and nothing. Any help? msc, sounds like your 2.7 ecm or your icm-- (instrument panel cluster)- are malfunctioning. We have had no problems like this thus far in the conversions that we've done. This sounds like a problem that the dodge dealer may have to take care of. If you take it there, make sure they treat it as if it still has a 2.7l in it. I am intrested in this conversion .Can you supply me with the details? Thanks in advance. S.L. toyota1, what's your email, or pm me. I'm ready to swap in the 3.2. Have a question or two. Gene SignatureGene575 FYI - just got home from picking my '99 Dodge Intrepid up from the dealer and guess what they said???? Needs a new engine: oxygen sensors soaked in oil, damaged catalytic converter, piston seals, need I go on? I absolutely love my car but now am faced with the dilemma of scrapping it or trying to find an engine to go in it. Since I purchased the car the transmission has been rebuilt, several sensors replaced, many smaller defects (power window), and now this. And for all the negative folks listening, yeah, the up-keep was flawless, papers to prove it. It is truly a shame that a car with that much potential had to have such a horrible engine! Maybe I'll keep it, or maybe I'll start car shopping. Any suggestions on a car that won't break down before it's paid for? ~A~ Matchbox builds one > FYI - just got home from picking my '99 Dodge Intrepid up from the dealer > and guess what they said???? Needs a new engine: oxygen sensors soaked in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'll keep it, or maybe I'll start car shopping. Any suggestions on a car > that won't break down before it's paid for? ~A~ >> I'll keep it, or maybe I'll start car shopping. Any suggestions on a car >> that won't break down before it's paid for? ~A~ > Matchbox builds one Oh, that's real helpful, "maxpower". Did you think that up all by yourself? SignatureIf you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Linux Registered User #327951 theres my ole cry baby buddie > >> I'll keep it, or maybe I'll start car shopping. Any suggestions on a car > >> that won't break down before it's paid for? ~A~ [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Oh, that's real helpful, "maxpower". Did you think that up all by > yourself? >> > Matchbox builds one >> Oh, that's real helpful, "maxpower". Did you think that up all by >> yourself? > theres my ole cry baby buddie Your ignorance is exceeded only by your lack of writing ability. Did you drop out of school at about the 4th grade? Learn how to use capital letters, punctuation, and spelling so you don't look like such a complete fool around here. Oh, and top posting is also for ignorant n00bs. SignatureIf you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Linux Registered User #327951 > >> > Matchbox builds one > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > look like such a complete fool around here. Oh, and top posting is also > for ignorant n00bs. Heh-heh... Ya see that Beasley, I'm not the only one who thinks you're full of sh.t. Two cry baby buddies. Top post! Top post! Linux sucks, too. Mr. Beasley was more helpful on my 99 Intrepid than some other morons around here who just complain about others or make stoopid comments. Larry Behold Beware Believe 1968 Dodge Charger 1969 Dodge Super Bee 1970 Dodge Charger R/T 1970 Dodge Super Bee 1970 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 1971 Plymouth 'cuda 1971 Plymouth Satellite (Law Enforcement) 1972 Dodge Charger 1979 Chrysler Newport (State Patrol) 1980 Dodge W150 1987 Dodge D100 1988 Dodge Caravan 1991 Dodge Monaco 1999 Dodge Intrepid | > >> > Matchbox builds one | > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] | Ya see that Beasley, I'm not the only one who thinks you're full | of sh.t. > Two cry baby buddies. Top post! Top post! Linux sucks, too. Mr. Beasley was > more helpful on my 99 Intrepid than some other morons around here who just > complain about others or make stoopid comments. You and maxpower are related? Both of you are ignorant morons. SignatureIf you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Linux Registered User #327951 I'm sorry, I thought this was a forum for discussing cars, not each others short comings. Grow up boys & lets talk stay on topic. ~A~ Dont take things so serious, as I said, some questions just dont have an answer > I'm sorry, I thought this was a forum for discussing cars, not each others > short comings. Grow up boys & lets talk stay on topic. > > ~A~ I'm sorry, I thought this was a forum for discussing cars, not each others short comings. Grow up boys & lets talk stay on topic. ~A~ > I'm sorry, I thought this was a forum for discussing cars, not each others > short comings. Grow up boys & lets talk stay on topic. Yeah. And quit posting the same thing twice, while you're at it. SignatureIf you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Linux Registered User #327951 Convert it to a 3.2, and you'll have a reliable car again... FYI - just got home from picking my '99 Dodge Intrepid up from the dealer and guess what they said???? Needs a new engine: oxygen sensors soaked in oil, damaged catalytic converter, piston seals, need I go on? I absolutely love my car but now am faced with the dilemma of scrapping it or trying to find an engine to go in it. Since I purchased the car the transmission has been rebuilt, several sensors replaced, many smaller defects (power window), and now this. And for all the negative folks listening, yeah, the up-keep was flawless, papers to prove it. It is truly a shame that a car with that much potential had to have such a horrible engine! Maybe I'll keep it, or maybe I'll start car shopping. Any suggestions on a car that won't break down before it's paid for? ~A~ The 3.2 conversion will cost you about $3500, (thats our price) and if you do decide to scrap the car, let me know, we buy them!! The 3.2 conversion will cost you about $3500, (thats our price) and if you do decide to scrap the car, let me know, we buy them!! I am interested in the 3.2 replacement. Can you please send any info. Hello, I am interested in learning more about this. My Intrepid's engine has recently quit working (on my way to an oil change, ironically enough!). I'm not one to lash out and blame others, whether it be the manufacturers or previous owners, I am just looking for more inexpensive alternatives to a repair rather than purchasing a new vehicle. I love my Intrepid and I worked hard to earn enough funds to buy it, if it has a chance to be saved I would like to do so. It is difficult to commute to college and work depending on rides and borrowing cars. Also please include any risks you've heard of with this conversion. Thank you. Hello, I am interested in learning more about this. My Intrepid's engine has recently quit working (on my way to an oil change, ironically enough!). I'm not one to lash out and blame others, whether it be the manufacturers or previous owners, I am just looking for more inexpensive alternatives to a repair rather than purchasing a new vehicle. I love my Intrepid and I worked hard to earn enough funds to buy it, if it has a chance to be saved I would like to do so. It is difficult to commute to college and work depending on rides and borrowing cars. Also please include any risks you've heard of with this conversion. Thank you. i have my 3.2l engine and my car at the mechanics but the guy doesnt have a clue as to which parts he needs for the conversion can you help. i have my 3.2l engine and my car at the mechanics but the guy doesnt have a clue as to which parts he needs for the conversion can you help. > i have my 3.2l engine and my car at the mechanics but the guy doesnt have > a clue as to which parts he needs for the conversion can you help. Are you f.cking kidding? Better find another "mechanic". SignatureIf you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Linux Registered User #327951 SEE EBAY.COM SEARCH DODGE INTREPID 2.7 THERES A CONVERSION KIT WITH ALL THE PARTS NEEDED THERE. I AM CURRENTLY HAVING A PROBLEM WITH MY 2001 DODGE INTREPID. I HAVE A 2.7L ENGINE AND WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE WITH A 3.2. > I AM CURRENTLY HAVING A PROBLEM WITH MY 2001 DODGE INTREPID. WELL THAT SUCKS. > I HAVE A 2.7L ENGINE AND WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE WITH A 3.2. OK. SignatureIf you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Linux Registered User #327951 "" wrote: > Anyone having problems with the dodge intrepid 2.7 L engine, I > have a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > interest in > the 3.2 conversion, feel free to contact me via email. I AM READY TO CHANGE TO THE 3.2 ENGINE I'm getting ready to do the change over from the 2.7l to the 3.2l. I have several questions that would be rather lengthy to post. Would you consider e-mailing me your phone number and we could discuss?? Thanks!! Let me save ou some grief. Stay with the original engine configuration. Unless you are an L1 Master Tech like me, you may not want to try to do this. I could write a ream of paper on why not, so please take some good advice, if it came with a 2.7, replace it with a 2.7 Here's the best source on the internet for anything to do with the LH platform vehicles (Intrepid, Concorde, LHS, and 300M, including the swap from 2.7 to 3.2/3.5. http://www.dodgeintrepid.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39677 Best wishes! I am having problems with my 2.7L. I took the car to the garage and the mechanic told me that the connecting rods are twisted. He said I would need to get a knew engine or a rebuilt engine. I told him what you said about replacing the 2.7L with the 3.2. It has been a while since you have posted anything about swaping the engine. Has the results been postive for the switch? Please let me know anything that would be helpful to me in this project. Or any problems you could see me running into with this. Were is your shop located? What do you think the total cost of this job would be? >Anyone having problems with the dodge intrepid 2.7 L engine, I have a >cheaper and better solution for you. I own an automotive shop and we have >been installing the optional 3.2l engine with very successful results, >cheaper than a replacement 2.7l. If you have any questions or interest in >the 3.2 conversion, feel free to contact me via email. |
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