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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / February 2005

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99 Dodge GC Transmission Problems

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2.3Sleeper - 28 Jan 2005 18:46 GMT
Going to send the van to the shop today or tomorrow to have a diagnostic run
on the transmission.

The problem: If vehicle is cold, it takes forever for the transmission to
engage. This is from any gear to any other gear. It happens whenever you
stop suddenly, or when turning a corner. If you want to be rough, when ever
you are setting there waiting for it to engage, you can rev the engine up
and it will make a kind of popping noise and then engage. Sometimes, it will
just die when you are sitting at a red light. It has done this 3 times on
me. When the vehicle is warm, and has been running for a while (hour or so)
the transmission usually works great. Occasionally, you get a hard shift
that doesn't feel right, but that is it.

Someone mentioned that the torque converter could be going out, or maybe
something electrical. I tend to lead more towards mechanical
problems/failures, but then I don't mess with transmissions.

Thank you in advance,

Don Manning
Gyzmologist - 28 Jan 2005 19:33 GMT
Sounds like the typical symptoms of low fluid level. If you check the fluid
level when it is warm and see bubbles on the dip stick, it is so low that it
is sucking air. Check the fluid level cold, but do not fill to the warm
level. As I recall, the torque converter clutch is released with pressure,
so low pressure would cause the clutch to be engaged. If the other clutches
grab before the torque converter clutch releases, that would kill the engine
with the vehicle at a stop. Low pressure could also allow conflicting clutch
combinations to be engaged which will quickly eat them up.

Gyz

> Going to send the van to the shop today or tomorrow to have a diagnostic
> run
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> Don Manning
meathead@who.com - 29 Jan 2005 02:07 GMT
>Sounds like the typical symptoms of low fluid level. If you check the fluid
>level when it is warm and see bubbles on the dip stick, it is so low that it
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>it sounds like converter drainback to me.  Put a checkvalve in the cooler return line.
mike
2.3Sleeper - 29 Jan 2005 11:19 GMT
You were correct. evidently, the older way of checking transmission fluid
does not apply to these vehicles. I was informed today that the vehicle
needed to be running, parked on a flat surface, in drive, with the parking
brake on.

2 quarts low.

So next week I am going to send it in to have the leak fixed, wherever it
may be.

Don Manning

> Sounds like the typical symptoms of low fluid level. If you check the fluid
> level when it is warm and see bubbles on the dip stick, it is so low that it
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> > Don Manning
Dan C - 29 Jan 2005 14:58 GMT
> You were correct. evidently, the older way of checking transmission fluid
> does not apply to these vehicles. I was informed today that the vehicle
> needed to be running, parked on a flat surface, in drive, with the parking
> brake on.

Evidently, you didn't think to check the owner's manual?  The above has
been the way to check fluid for as long as I can remember (20+ years).
How much older is the "older way" you are talking about?

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maxpower - 29 Jan 2005 16:18 GMT
> > You were correct. evidently, the older way of checking transmission fluid
> > does not apply to these vehicles. I was informed today that the vehicle
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> been the way to check fluid for as long as I can remember (20+ years).
> How much older is the "older way" you are talking about?

Evidently, you didn't think to check the owner's manual?  The above has
been the way to check fluid for as long as I can remember (20+ years).
How much older is the "older way" you are talking about?

Neither did you. This vehicle is supposed to be checked in park or neutral,
The torque convertor gets filled in Park or Neutral.. The Trucks and vans
need to be checked in drive
maxpower - 29 Jan 2005 16:22 GMT
> > You were correct. evidently, the older way of checking transmission fluid
> > does not apply to these vehicles. I was informed today that the vehicle
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> been the way to check fluid for as long as I can remember (20+ years).
> How much older is the "older way" you are talking about?

Made it easy for you DAN C, stick this in the owners manual that you have
been reading for 20+yrs > How much older is the "older way" you are talking
about?
FLUID LEVEL AND CONDITION
NOTE: The transmission and differential sump have a common oil sump with a
communicating opening between the two.

The torque converter fills in both the P Park and N Neutral positions. Place
the selector lever in P Park to be sure that the fluid level check is
accurate. The engine should be running at idle speed for at least one
minute, with the vehicle on level ground. This will assure complete oil
level stabilization between differential and transmission. The fluid should
be at normal operating temperature (approximately 82 C. or 180 F.) The fluid
level is correct if it is in the HOT region (cross-hatched area) on the
dipstick.
SN - 29 Jan 2005 20:05 GMT
> The torque converter fills in both the P Park and N Neutral positions.

Isn't the torque converter ALWAYS full of fluid?
the fly - 29 Jan 2005 23:25 GMT
>> The torque converter fills in both the P Park and N Neutral positions.
>
>Isn't the torque converter ALWAYS full of fluid?

    Some converters drain down to shaft level (about half) when
the engine's not running, some don't.  Depends on the design.  ALL
automatics should be checked with engine running, fluid up to
operating temp, vehicle sitting level.
ldenn2 - 11 Feb 2005 03:46 GMT
Have you changed the trans fluid and filter?  Be sure that you use _ONLY
fluid recommened by the Chrysler dealer.  If you usen anything else you will
be replacing the transmission in about 6mo or a year.
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> Going to send the van to the shop today or tomorrow to have a diagnostic
> run
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> Don Manning
 
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