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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / February 2005HELP!!! BACK IN THE DOGHOUSE!!!
The van died!!! We gotta have 2 vehicles!!! OK...deep breaths...anyway... Was running fine all day, probably 120miles today. Had to run my 13yr old Boy to the Doc(He has Influenza A(yippy)), we stopped by the store and when we went to leave, it started like usual(which is great), ran a few seconds then sputtered and died! I opened the door, turned the key off then back on and couldn't hear the fuel pump. Could hear the relay click a second or two after the key was turned to on like normal priming before start. If I turned the key on for 5 sec then off and repeated a few times, she would try to start, then nothing. I tried that a couple times and got little more than a couple cylinders to pop then she would just spin. When it died it didn't stop suddenly, just petered out... Fuel pump, right??? Was replaced somewhere from 110-140K, now has 220K. I don't want to drop a half full tank only to not have that the problem. Is there a 'valve' to see if there is pressure on the fuel rail? '92 Caravan 3.0 BTW... > The van died!!! We gotta have 2 vehicles!!! OK...deep breaths...anyway... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > '92 Caravan 3.0 BTW... I think these have Schrader valves on the fuel runners in the engine bay, but I'm not sure. If they do you can check it with a pressure guage. But if you're not hearing the pump whirring, I'd bey that's the problem! > The van died!!! We gotta have 2 vehicles!!! OK...deep breaths...anyway... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > '92 Caravan 3.0 BTW... No fuel test port for that vehicle, you would have to tee it in,Get some carb cleaner/throttle body cleaner and spray into the throttle body while trying to start, if it starts at least you know it is fuel.......then I would test out the 12v/ground circuit.....Was that an after market pump only you installed before or a mopar fuel pump module.. Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech It was put in before my Woman and I got together and she is vehicle illiterate. She says the fuel pump. Its in tank right? Where is the fuel pump module and how do I know if IT went bad? >> The van died!!! We gotta have 2 vehicles!!! OK...deep breaths...anyway... >> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Glenn Beasley > Chrysler Tech > It was put in before my Woman and I got together and she is vehicle > illiterate. She says the fuel pump. Its in tank right? Where is the fuel > pump module and how do I know if IT went bad? Ok, when I say fuel pump module I mean the intire pump assembly (wires,sending unit, and all) that is located in the tank. Its called a fuel Pump Module, Or you could buy a cheap pump from one of the aftermarket suppliers and dissassemble the Mopar module and install the cheap pump and have problems down the road again, That is what I was asking > >> The van died!!! We gotta have 2 vehicles!!! OK...deep breaths...anyway... > >> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Glenn Beasley > > Chrysler Tech Gotcha! I am thinking it is getting warn and might have developed a dead spot. I went out and the fuel pump popped right off! I put a secondary ground just in case. I plan on replacing it next month when I can get a shop and hoist and a near empty tank. I am also gonna replace the original timing belt that has 220K on it. >> It was put in before my Woman and I got together and she is vehicle >> illiterate. She says the fuel pump. Its in tank right? Where is the fuel [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >> > Glenn Beasley >> > Chrysler Tech Installing an aftermarket electric pump may not work. I know a few people that tried this and nothing but problems. Electric fuel pumps are good at pushing pressure but do not have good pickup, that is why they are located in the tank. Plus if you leave the old pump in the tank and install a new inline electric pump you will be pulling through the old pump unless you modify the tank. Sarge I would never install an inline pump with a dead in tank pump. I never even made the reference to doing that! I do however need to do the pump tomorrow. Wouldn't start to go to Church this morning...!@%#$^%!@#$!^%$@#^%!$^%!@$#^%! > Installing an aftermarket electric pump may not work. I know a few people > that tried this and nothing but problems. Electric fuel pumps are good at [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Sarge Before pulling the pump use a test light to see if you are getting power. If there is a relay or a fuse check it.. The pump will on run for a few seconds unless the vehicle starts. If you have no power to the relay then check and make sure iginition switch is working properly. Check fuel cutoff relay. If everything checks good then pull the pump. Change fuel filter also whil;e you have the system down. Sarge Filter assy replaced, new harness(new plug has a different plug than original), new filter, 2 new 3" pieces of fuel line... Runs like a top! I disassembled the old pump before getting a new one and it fan fine the first couple burps of juice then it was dead...till I shook it then it took off again. Dead Spot! > Before pulling the pump use a test light to see if you are getting power. > If there is a relay or a fuse check it.. The pump will on run for a few [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Sarge > Filter assy replaced, new harness(new plug has a different plug than > original), new filter, 2 new 3" pieces of fuel line... Runs like a top! [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > Sarge so did you replace it? Sorry...I meant Pump assy replaced...new harness(new plug has a different plug than original), new filter, 2 new 3" pieces of fuel line... Runs like a top! That's better...hehehe >> Filter assy replaced, new harness(new plug has a different plug than >> original), new filter, 2 new 3" pieces of fuel line... Runs like a top! [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> > > so did you replace it? |
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