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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / March 2006

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This pisses me off!

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James Goforth - 29 Mar 2006 20:04 GMT
 I had come across a car which had been abandoned for over a year at a
motel about 60 miles from where I live.
 I was interested in the car and wanted to get it for a project for me
and my son.
 The motel manager didn't want to let it go, since it wasn't in their
way where it sat, plus everyone had seen it there by now; they just
didn't need to move it.
 It was unlocked and had all documentation in the glove box.
 I sent a registered letter to the address of the owner, offering to
buy it, with my contact information--email, cell #, snail mail, etc.
 I recieved back the USPS card saying they'd signed for my letter, and
thus recieved it, but never got any actual reply from them.
 So I gave up...and noticed about 6 months later the car was gone.
Turns out the motel had gotten a new manager, who promptly had it towed
away.
I contacted the towing service who had it in their impound yard.  He
said he didn't have a title or a key, and would let me have the car for
$250, and he'd deliver it!
 I accepted his offer and left him my number to call when he was ready
to do this.  At that time it was snowy & very cold and his towing
business was busy with customers for starting, towing, etc.
 Anyway, about a month and a half goes by, and I'd been trying to get
ahold of him repeatedly but he was never there, and then FINALLY I reach
him and he refers me to one of his drivers.
 I call the driver and he says he's got to have $350 for it now, since
he's got that much in it from doing a bunch of legwork trying to get the
title from the owner --which he never did get.

 I told him that:
1.  We had an oral contract when he offered the car to me for a set
price and I accepted the offer
2.  I wouldn't be getting anything extra for the additional $100 he was
tacking onto the price
3.  He shouldn't have been messing with trying to get the title since
I'd already agreed to buy the car AS IS to begin with

 He said he'd call me back after he talked to the boss (whom I'd
originally dealt with).
  He called me back the next day to tell me he now DID have the title
in his hand (still no key).
 I told him that I'd even give him his $350 now that there was an
actual title--still a good deal.  He says he'll talk to the boss again.
 He called me back the next day to inform me that his boss "decided
he's just going to _pass_ on selling you that car."

 Seems unethical to me.  I don't think that's the way it works.  I say
he was obligated to stand by his offer, instead of deciding he was
letting it go too cheap and avoiding me.
 It was a car he'd gotten for free anyway, for Gawd's sake.
 I was trying to get that car long before they ever got ahold of it.  I
probably have as much money in it as they do, even now.
 The car was a Volvo 760 Turbo intercooled wagon, no rust or dents,
loaded, leather, sunroof.  Paint was somewhat faded.
 Initially I tried to get it for free from the motel where it say,
which is what piqued my interest on it in the first place.
 But it still would have been worth well over what they wanted for it,
even for parts.
maxpower - 29 Mar 2006 21:53 GMT
>   I had come across a car which had been abandoned for over a year at a
> motel about 60 miles from where I live.
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>   But it still would have been worth well over what they wanted for it,
> even for parts.

In the state I live in they would not be able to resell without having the
title. The junk yard doesn't own the vehicle  just because they towed it.
And you would of had to put a mechanics lien on it in order to get the title

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
James Goforth - 30 Mar 2006 01:18 GMT
Maxpower wrote: "In the state I live in they would not be able to resell
without having the title. The junk yard doesn't own the vehicle just
because they towed it. And you would of had to put a mechanics lien on
it in order to get the title."
*********************************************

 I know, I had already checked with the local DOT, found out what I
needed to do, and was ready to go through the red tape per their
parameters to secure a title in my name.
 The vehicle was towed through orders from local law enforcement, not
simply by a call from the motel to the towing service.
 Everything could have been done legally.

 My point was that when someone offers to sell you a car for a price,
and you accept, you generally don't have them telling you afterward that
now the price is higher, or that you can't have it at all, etc.

Note that this is an uptown automotive service center on a busy
intersection, and people like him give other automotive professionals a
bad rep (I found out afterward he does stuff like this a lot).
Tony D. - 29 Mar 2006 22:01 GMT
>   I had come across a car which had been abandoned for over a year at a
> motel about 60 miles from where I live.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> thus recieved it, but never got any actual reply from them.
>   So I gave up...

You've answered your own question.

>  I contacted the towing service who had it in their impound yard.  He
> said he didn't have a title or a key, and would let me have the car for
> $250, and he'd deliver it!

If it was such a "steal" and was that important to you you should have
rented a flatbed and went and got it.

>   I accepted his offer and left him my number to call when he was ready
> to do this.  At that time it was snowy & very cold and his towing
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>   It was a car he'd gotten for free anyway, for Gawd's sake.
>   I was trying to get that car long before they ever got ahold of it.

Amazing logic.

>I
> probably have as much money in it as they do, even now.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>   But it still would have been worth well over what they wanted for it,
> even for parts.

So while you waited, the paperwork, etc, turned up and the value of the
car increased dramatically.
James Goforth - 30 Mar 2006 01:26 GMT
 Tony D wrote:  If it was such a "steal" and was that important to you
you should have rented a flatbed and went and got it."
*******************************************

1.  The place where the car was is 60 miles where I live.  Having it
towed that distance was a pretty good offer.
2.   I had no expectation of having them deliver it immediately because
their trucks were busy due to recent heavy snow, etc.
3.  I was in no big hurry to get the car for the same reason.
4.  There was no reason to suspect the guy wasn't going to follow
through.
5.  The cost of renting a flatbed, fuel, etc would have cost $75- $100.
Hachiroku - 29 Mar 2006 22:23 GMT
>  I had come across a car which had been abandoned for over a year at a
> motel about 60 miles from where I live.
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>  But it still would have been worth well over what they wanted for it,
> even for parts.

Sorry, but here in Mass, anyway, even though verbal agreements are as good
as written ones, he does NOT have to sell you the car.

Two consolations, for what it's worth:
I empathize with you, this really sucks. I was going to buy an '88 Supra for
parts, and it got towed and the same thing happened.
But, in this case, it wound up squashed...

Also, I sold one of these (an '89) for the same price, in running condition,
in pretty much the same shape you are describing.
I took it in on a trade in for $200, so they can be had. You didn't say how
much mileage; this one was 175,000, but ran quite well.

*I* was going to keep it but the boss sold it to our body guy...  :(
Dan C - 29 Mar 2006 23:05 GMT
<snip a whiny off-topic story about being stupid>

Who cares?  What would you like any of us to do about it?

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James Goforth - 30 Mar 2006 01:34 GMT
Panzy wrote, "<snip a whiny off-topic story about being stupid>
Who cares? What would you like any of us to do about it?
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 Well then, what the f.ck did you read the whole long post for?
 Oh, wait, I know...so you could post your usual smart a.s retort,
since your whole life seems to consist of hanging out in here doing
that.  Congratulations.
 
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