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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / September 2006

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91 dodge Spirit AC problem

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uccoskun@gmail.com - 10 Sep 2006 20:25 GMT
Hello All,

I just bought a 91 P. Acclaim (Dodge spirit) with 2.5 L engine. I know
the AC compressor was seized up. I changed the compressor. and put in
3x12 oz 134a gas.

Now, the compressor works however, I don't get cold air in the car.
My observation is that AC gas does not circulate. After the gas becomes
liquid, something keeps the liquid from reaching evaporator.

My test: after I run AC for 5 minutes (no problem on clutch engaging),
I stop the car and loosen the low pressure side adaptor bolts on
compressor. Nothing leaks out. I put it back, and then loosen high
pressure side adaptor compressor. As I expect, the gas starts to leak
out from the adaptor. I'm sure I don't leak gas.

I know some older systems use expansion valve. Where is it on this car,
and is there any other place where might be clogged.

TIA, Ulas.
aarcuda69062 - 10 Sep 2006 23:50 GMT
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> Hello All,
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> TIA, Ulas.

Did you flush the system?

Did you add oil?

Did you pull a deep vacuum to 500 microns?

Where do you suppose the trash from the seized compressor went?

The TXV is at the inlet to the evaporator.
uccoskun@gmail.com - 11 Sep 2006 05:24 GMT
I did not flust the system. I donto know how. I jsut take the
compressor out and put another one back.. Change the low side adaptor
to be able to use 134a and that;s it.

I put very little oil on the high side before charging and then use
134a with oil addictive. I did not want to put too much oil since I
know it is bad for compressors by experience. I believe the compressor
is still ok.

I didnot pump it to a specific vacuum. I donot have vacuum. Maybe next
time, I can put one can of freeon in and then let it go, that way
Imight get rid ofmost ofthe air also.

I did not thought about the broken pieces of the old compressor. I
believe, there is a filter like stuff between compressor and condensor.
I will take it out and try to clean it by back pressurizing. I hope
that cylinder like thing is a filter.

Is the expansion valve sitting on the firewall in the engine
compartment? I see a black box where the hoses are attached? Can i take
it out or is it welded part of a evaporator.

Thanks for the input.

> Did you flush the system?
>
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> The TXV is at the inlet to the evaporator.
aarcuda69062 - 11 Sep 2006 15:00 GMT
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<1157948666.907852.214530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

> I did not flust the system. I donto know how. I jsut take the
> compressor out and put another one back.. Change the low side adaptor
> to be able to use 134a and that;s it.

You -do- know that the inside of that system HAS to be cleaner
than a hospital operating room, don't you?

>  I put very little oil on the high side before charging and then use
> 134a with oil addictive. I did not want to put too much oil since I
> know it is bad for compressors by experience. I believe the compressor
> is still ok.

> I didnot pump it to a specific vacuum. I donot have vacuum. Maybe next
> time, I can put one can of freeon in and then let it go, that way
> Imight get rid ofmost ofthe air also.

How could you possibly hope to get the moisture (water) out of
the system?
A deep vacuum isn't one of those "nice to do" things, it's
mandatory if you don't want to have problems, big problems.
Water can and will freeze in the TXV, a frozen TXV will starve
the compressor for oil.

> I did not thought about the broken pieces of the old compressor. I
> believe, there is a filter like stuff between compressor and condensor.

Will stop a piston, won't stop muck.

> I will take it out and try to clean it by back pressurizing. I hope
> that cylinder like thing is a filter.

Needs to be replaced -after- you flush the system and add the
proper amount of oil divided amongst the different components.

> Is the expansion valve sitting on the firewall in the engine
> compartment? I see a black box where the hoses are attached? Can i take
> it out or is it welded part of a evaporator.

Yes, that's probably it.  Chrysler never welded the TXV to the
evaporator.

> Thanks for the input.

Until you make up your mind that you're going to do things right,
you're wasting your time.
sqdancerLynn - 12 Sep 2006 05:29 GMT
Was the compressor a junkyard special ???  91 was still probably R12, At
least my 92 Dodge van was. their is more to the conversion than just
adding R134 Need to do a complete system flush, replace the dryer, refill
with the correct amount & type of oil, evacuate the system & recharge. The
amount of refridgerant added to the system is critical for best operation
 
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