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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / September 2006

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The Windshield & Rearview Mirror Saga

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Joe Colella - 14 Sep 2006 16:35 GMT
My son through a baseball in the car knocking the rearview
mirror off the windshield.

Now get this... The adhesive between the baseplate and the
windshield did not fail; the glass did.

To be accurate, 2/3 of the adhesive between the baseplate
and the windshield did fail, but 1/3 did not resulting in a
dime-size piece of windshield still attached to the baseplate.

I assume the best adhesive to re-attach the baseplate-to-
windshield surface is still rearview mirror adhesive, but what
is the best adhesive to re-attach the glass-to-glass surface?

Thanks!

Joe Colella
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Morgans - 14 Sep 2006 21:05 GMT
> I assume the best adhesive to re-attach the baseplate-to-
> windshield surface is still rearview mirror adhesive, but what
> is the best adhesive to re-attach the glass-to-glass surface?

Put the mirror in a slightly different place, to avoid the broken glass.  If
you do this, will you need to fix the glass?

If you do, use epoxy.
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Joe Colella - 15 Sep 2006 03:29 GMT
>> I assume the best adhesive to re-attach the baseplate-to-
>> windshield surface is still rearview mirror adhesive, but what
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> If you do, use epoxy.

Like J B Weld or something else?
daytripper - 15 Sep 2006 03:35 GMT
>>> I assume the best adhesive to re-attach the baseplate-to-
>>> windshield surface is still rearview mirror adhesive, but what
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>
>Like J B Weld or something else?

Any decent auto parts store will carry a repair kit to reattach the mirror to
the windshield. Included will be cleaner and some two-part epoxy, and
instructions. I suggest you reattach the mirror in its original position...

/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd
Joe Colella - 15 Sep 2006 03:37 GMT
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:29:57 GMT, "Joe Colella"
> <firstname.lastname@yahoo.com>
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> /daytripper
> '00 s4 6spd

...and just cover the hole created by the dislodged chip?
daytripper - 15 Sep 2006 04:12 GMT
>> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:29:57 GMT, "Joe Colella"
>> <firstname.lastname@yahoo.com>
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>
>...and just cover the hole created by the dislodged chip?

If the chip is still attached to the mirror stalk, yes, try to fit the mess
back in its original position, and let the epoxy hold it all together. If that
chip didn't come off the stalk, it's likely not going to come off, ever...

Cheers

/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd
'05 durango hemi ltd
Joe Colella - 15 Sep 2006 12:46 GMT
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:37:24 GMT, "Joe Colella"
> <firstname.lastname@yahoo.com>
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> '00 s4 6spd
> '05 durango hemi ltd

Good point, thanks!
Stormin Mormon - 19 Sep 2006 02:45 GMT
The parts houses around me have the cyanoacyllate glue. Which didn't
work well for me. On my full size van, I cut a chunk of wood to size.
Screwed it to the sheet metal over the windshield. Bracket the miror
shaft to the bottom of the wood. Works fine.

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If the chip is still attached to the mirror stalk, yes, try to fit the
mess
back in its original position, and let the epoxy hold it all together.
If that
chip didn't come off the stalk, it's likely not going to come off,
ever...

Cheers

/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd
'05 durango hemi ltd
Morgans - 15 Sep 2006 21:33 GMT
> Like J B Weld or something else?

JB Weld has steel in it, and is not clear.  Get some 5 minute epoxy, usually
sold in a two tube "syringe", for lack of anything better to call it.  Mix a
small amount and use a piece of scotch tape to hold it up while the epoxy
sets up.

The other posters suggest putting it in the same place, and using the chip
to fill the hole, and hold the mirror.

I advise against this for a couple reasons.  The lower mirror, or off to one
side by 3/8ths of an inch will not be noticeable, or not by much.  The glue
used to attach rear view mirrors is very particular about having a perfectly
smooth, clean place to attach.  If there is any gap at all, more than a
_molecule_ or two thick, it will not hold.  That is why I think a new
location is desirable.

As to using epoxy to attach the chip, and thus the glass, it will be
difficult to get the bond to be strong enough, but even more difficult to
support the weight of the mirror, or the metal plate that the mirror hangs
on, while the epoxy sets.  The mirror adhesive you get at the auto parts
store cures almost instantly, enough to hold the metal plate, at least.

Epoxy is difficult to make a strong enough bond to successfully hold a
mirror.  Ask me how I know that! <g>
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Joe Colella - 16 Sep 2006 00:15 GMT
>> Like J B Weld or something else?
>
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> Epoxy is difficult to make a strong enough bond to successfully hold a
> mirror.  Ask me how I know that! <g>

Thanks!
jcr - 16 Sep 2006 01:54 GMT
> On  9/15/2006 4:33 PM ...  Morgans  wrote:
>
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> Epoxy is difficult to make a strong enough bond to successfully hold a
> mirror.  Ask me how I know that! <g>

I've used epoxy several times and never once had to do the repair again.
Morgans - 16 Sep 2006 02:08 GMT
> I've used epoxy several times and never once had to do the repair again.

I'm glad it has worked for you.

I might add that this was in a work van, that frequently was used on very
rough surfaces, on jobsites, and in developments.  It did not work for me,
and I am well versed in using various adhesives.
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