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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / October 2006

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plymouth voyager battery dying at any given time when parked.

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cyberguy - 20 Oct 2006 14:29 GMT
I have a 96 voyager and times it would start fine and with no problem
at all, then other times it would not start all.  This is what happens:
come home park the van, wake next morning turn the key and nothing,
just the clicking sound.  get a boost and it starts right up and runs
fine.............. shut it off later and it starts right back just fine
and continue like that for days.  Then out of the blue I would park it
[say at the mall] come back and nothing; click click click.........
dead battery!  What could be draining the power from my battery like
that?

I check to be sure nothing was left on and everything was off.  Please
someone help me.  It dont cut-off, just wont start after parking.
cyberguy - 20 Oct 2006 14:40 GMT
forgot to add> 96 voyager 3.3L engine.

> I have a 96 voyager and times it would start fine and with no problem
> at all, then other times it would not start all.  This is what happens:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>  I check to be sure nothing was left on and everything was off.  Please
> someone help me.  It dont cut-off, just wont start after parking.
FeMaster - 20 Oct 2006 14:53 GMT
> forgot to add> 96 voyager 3.3L engine.
>
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> >  I check to be sure nothing was left on and everything was off.  Please
> > someone help me.  It dont cut-off, just wont start after parking.

First step...  Clean the battery posts and terminals...
Second...  Depending on how long this has been going on, it MAY be the
contact terminals inside the starter; these are known to fail due to
excessive wear...
pchotspot - 20 Oct 2006 15:00 GMT
battery post  & terminalare very very clean.  I cleaned then using the
plumbing pipe wire brush which works really well on the post and
terminal.  So what do you suggest: A new starter? OR how can I test the
starter to see if it has the issue?
> > forgot to add> 96 voyager 3.3L engine.
> >
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> contact terminals inside the starter; these are known to fail due to
> excessive wear...
DonTraboulsee - 20 Oct 2006 15:21 GMT
Before you jump into a starter, take the battery to garage and have it load
tested. I went thru the same problems. Battery needed to be replaced. If
the battery test fine, then you have can look at the starter.
aarcuda69062 - 20 Oct 2006 15:33 GMT
In article
<1161352806.226615.64130@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,

> battery post  & terminalare very very clean.  I cleaned then using the
> plumbing pipe wire brush which works really well on the post and
> terminal.  So what do you suggest: A new starter? OR how can I test the
> starter to see if it has the issue?

Start by testing the battery when the condition occurs.

Don't assume that the battery is being drained, don't assume that
it's not.

You mention "clicking,"  is it a single click or a repetitive
click (buzz).  Single click would indicate the starter contacts
which makes sense given the age and average mileage for an 11
year old vehicle.
Bubba - 20 Oct 2006 20:23 GMT
> I have a 96 voyager and times it would start fine and with no problem
> at all, then other times it would not start all.  This is what happens:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>  I check to be sure nothing was left on and everything was off.  Please
> someone help me.  It dont cut-off, just wont start after parking.

What is the alternator output. Wth engine running, put a volt meter on
the battery and check the voltage, you need to see 14.1 VDC and not
less that 13.5 VDC if the alternator is good. Likewise the battery,
with engine off, same test and 12.1 should be the reading.
aarcuda69062 - 21 Oct 2006 02:43 GMT
In article
<1161372182.529083.309660@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,

> > I have a 96 voyager and times it would start fine and with no problem
> > at all, then other times it would not start all.  This is what happens:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> less that 13.5 VDC if the alternator is good. Likewise the battery,
> with engine off, same test and 12.1 should be the reading.

At 12.1 volts, the battery is  less than 50% charged (close to
25% charged).
Bubba - 25 Oct 2006 03:08 GMT
> In article
> <1161372182.529083.309660@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> At 12.1 volts, the battery is  less than 50% charged (close to
> 25% charged).

If you have 12.1 VDC on the battery at rest, then the battery is fully
charged. If you have 14.1 VDC on battery with engine running then the
alternator is good. Put the volt meter on the battery at rest and have
someone crank the engiine over while you read the voltage, it should
not drop belwo about 11.0 VDC if the battery is holding a good charge.
aarcuda69062 - 25 Oct 2006 06:32 GMT
In article
<1161742099.668941.225490@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,

> > In article
> > <1161372182.529083.309660@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> If you have 12.1 VDC on the battery at rest, then the battery is fully
> charged.

http://www.repairfaq.org/ELE/F_Car_Battery.html#CARBATTERY_009

(psssst... when they call 'em 12 volt batteries, they're lying)

> If you have 14.1 VDC on battery with engine running then the
> alternator is good.

Depends on the ambient temperature, not to mention that all
alternators have a voltage versus amperage specification.

> Put the volt meter on the battery at rest and have
> someone crank the engiine over while you read the voltage, it should
> not drop belwo about 11.0 VDC if the battery is holding a good charge.

Stupid me, here I've been using an AVR and a trans-conductance
tester all these years.
 
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