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Hello all, I think by mistake I have overfilled my DODGE 2003 GRAND CARAVAN SE with 1 to 1.5 quarts of oil.. It is like 1 inch over the max level on the gauge. I have not driven the van too much around. Should I try to remove 1 quart? or is it fine to wait for the next oil change.. please let me know your thoughts.. please see this article below. http://autos.yahoo.com/maintain/repairqa/air_filters_oil/ques052_1.html;_ylt=Aui hcX7S8oh9c1ljfj7lN4aDc78F ------------- CAUTION: Do not overfill the engine. Adding too much oil can overfill the crankcase. As the crankshaft spins around, it can whip the oil into foam if the level is too high. This, in turn, can cause a drop in oil pressure and loss of lubrication to critical engine parts. Also, too much oil may cause leaks as the extra oil is forced past seals and gaskets. I'd go ahead and remove a quart. Having the level too high puts it in greater contact with the spinning crankshaft and it get splattered around a lot more inside the engine. It might be fine, but there are some problems that can result from that. > Hello all, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > much oil may cause leaks as the extra oil is forced past seals and > gaskets. The main problem it will turn the oil into foam and stop lubricating the engine. Drain the extra oil out..... > I'd go ahead and remove a quart. Having the level too high puts it in > greater contact with the spinning crankshaft and it get splattered around [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> much oil may cause leaks as the extra oil is forced past seals and >> gaskets. > The main problem it will turn the oil into foam and stop lubricating the > engine. Drain the extra oil out..... >> I'd go ahead and remove a quart. Having the level too high puts it in >> greater contact with the spinning crankshaft and it get splattered >> around a lot more inside the engine. It might be fine, but there are >> some problems that can result from that. Or possibly create Hydraulic Lock if the oil pressures itself past the seals... >>> Hello all, >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>> much oil may cause leaks as the extra oil is forced past seals and >>> gaskets. Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote in article <iEfkh.7657$6Z5.811@trndny01>... > Or possibly create Hydraulic Lock if the oil pressures itself past the > seals... ???????? Would you please explain the technology supporting this statement? > Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote in article <iEfkh.7657$6Z5.811@trndny01>... >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Would you please explain the technology supporting this statement? Oil is under pressure. If there is too much oil, and the pressure builds, then it can push out seals meant to keep it out of places. If the OP is luck, it will push a seal out at one end of the engine or another and leak onto the ground or into the tranny (depending on your definition of "luck") If not, it can push out the valve seals and drop into the engine, and since a liquid cannot be pressurized...BANG! Hydraulic Lock... Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote in article <ed0nh.593$Jf.264@trndny03>... > > Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote in article <iEfkh.7657$6Z5.811@trndny01>... > >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > If not, it can push out the valve seals and drop into the engine, and > since a liquid cannot be pressurized...BANG! Hydraulic Lock... Er.... .....exactly what engine are you talking about that has pressurized oil against the valve seals? Any oil that manages to bypass the valve seals usually ends up burned - creating that familiar blue smoke. > Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote in article <ed0nh.593$Jf.264@trndny03>... >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Any oil that manages to bypass the valve seals usually ends up burned - > creating that familiar blue smoke. '88 Honda Accord. JiffyLube overfilled it by three quarts. I don't know how it happened, I know they gave me a new engine...I'm just going by what the Honda Service Manager told me. I figured he knows what he's talking about... > '88 Honda Accord. JiffyLube overfilled it by three quarts. I don't know > how it happened, I know they gave me a new engine...I'm just going by what > the Honda Service Manager told me. I figured he knows what he's talking > about... The oil sitting in the pan is not under pressure (under normal conditions in most engines, I am sure if I didn't write this someone would find a some engine made in east germany in 1961 that was in 45 cars that had the oil in the pan pressurized and call me a dumbass for not considering it). The oil in the passages is. The pump picks up the oil and it is pumped through the system then returns to the pan. The oil pressure builds against the resistance of pushing the oil through the small passages, bearings, etc. When an engine is over filled with oil, the oil pressure doesn't increase, the crank dips into the oil in the pan splashing it around. The oil get frothy with air and then these air bubbles are in the oil as the pump picks it up and circulates it. Of course air doesn't do a good job lubricating internal engine parts and the engine fails. Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote in article <zmtnh.6$Ul4.1@trnddc05>... > > Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote in article <ed0nh.593$Jf.264@trndny03>... > >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > the Honda Service Manager told me. I figured he knows what he's talking > about... Your Honda "Service Mangler" is either full of it, or he doesn't know what he's talking about. Either way, I would find another place to have my car serviced and repaired. >>'88 Honda Accord. JiffyLube overfilled it by three quarts. I don't know >>how it happened, I know they gave me a new engine...I'm just going by [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>the Honda Service Manager told me. I figured he knows what he's talking >>about... > Your Honda "Service Mangler" is either full of it, or he doesn't know what > he's talking about. > > Either way, I would find another place to have my car serviced and > repaired. With a 3-quart overfill, I can picture some damage being done, including blown seals (penguin/ice cream jokes notwithstanding). Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > blown seals (penguin/ice cream jokes notwithstanding). Kip Adotta you ain't. Ted >>blown seals (penguin/ice cream jokes notwithstanding). > > Kip Adotta you ain't. > > Ted Never heard of him, but a Google search shows him as the apparent inventor of the joke. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> wrote in article <5081ggF1dsmjvU1@mid.individual.net>... > >>'88 Honda Accord. JiffyLube overfilled it by three quarts. I don't know > >>how it happened, I know they gave me a new engine...I'm just going by [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > address with the letter 'x') The original overfill under discussion is 1 to 1-1/2 quarts.......... > Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> wrote in article > <5081ggF1dsmjvU1@mid.individual.net>... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > Either way, I would find another place to have my car serviced and > > > repaired. > > With a 3-quart overfill, I can picture some damage being done, including > > blown seals (penguin/ice cream jokes notwithstanding). [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > The original overfill under discussion is 1 to 1-1/2 quarts.......... True enough, but then you chose to question another poster regarding his experience with a 3 quart overfill on his Honda. >>Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> wrote in article >><5081ggF1dsmjvU1@mid.individual.net>... [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > True enough, but then you chose to question another poster regarding > his experience with a 3 quart overfill on his Honda. Exactly! Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') cavedweller <jawnwillie@hotmail.com> wrote in article <1168090721.030491.189790@s80g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... > > Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> wrote in article > > <5081ggF1dsmjvU1@mid.individual.net>... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > True enough, but then you chose to question another poster regarding > his experience with a 3 quart overfill on his Honda. ....who was posting that one could experience a hydraulic lock due to pressurized oil getting past his valve seals and locking up the piston - which is what I questioned. The poster discussing the 3 quart overfill never uttered a word about blowing out seals. He just claimed that Jiffy Lube replaced the engine after I questioned him about hydraulic lock caused by pressurized oil bypassing the valve seals into the cylinder. Yet another poster posed the theory of a large overfill generating enough pressure to blow seals - not necessarily blow the engine - but I would think the standard crankcase ventilation system would absorb any pressure developed. > > True enough, but then you chose to question another poster regarding > > his experience with a 3 quart overfill on his Honda. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > think the standard crankcase ventilation system would absorb any pressure > developed. Well, I read all that after the thread got hijacked. What I didn't find was your advice to the OP and who seems to have resolved his problem. Things do get lost though. I offered a wild theory to sort of support the idea of a hydrostatic lock in the bottom end of the Honda engine that may have blown some end seals but it didn't appear in this group thread. Instead it ended up as a cross post into the group that the OP included in his original post. > He just claimed that Jiffy Lube replaced the engine after I questioned him > about hydraulic lock caused by pressurized oil bypassing the valve seals [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > think the standard crankcase ventilation system would absorb any pressure > developed. As I have come to understand since then, Hydraulic Lock occurs when a fluid gets into the combution chamber. From what the Honda Manager told me, enough oil had gotten into the cylinders to cause Hydraulic Lock. I'm guessing it blew a seal or gasket somewhere. What I do know for a fact is the engine was a mess! I started it and the OIL light came on, and I shut it off and saw oil spewing out onto the ground. >With a 3-quart overfill, I can picture some damage being done, including >blown seals (penguin/ice cream jokes notwithstanding). Why would you picture damaged seals? It does not matter how much you overfill the system... the oil pressure will not go up. Think of a gas pump at the gas station. There could be 300 gallons of gas in the underground tank or 3000 gallons of gas in that tank. It makes no difference in the amount of gas coming out of the nozzle at your pump until the level gets low enough that the pump starts sucking air. With a 3 quart overfill you should picture bearings destroyed by a lack of lubrication. With that much overfill the crank will whip the oil in to a froth and the oil pump can't pump froth effectively so your oil pressure goes down until you stop or the engine stops. The seals aren't subjected to any serious pressure. They mostly just keep the splashing oil from leaking out. Worst case scenario is a seal would be sitting in oil and might leak a little until the oil level drops back under it. Steve B. BTW, I was the original poster. and after a few days, I took it to WALMART and got the oil changed for 18$. As I did not have the time/energy to try to drain out accurately I quart. My van works fine, I hope so. I think I drove only 20-30 miles with the extra quart... I hope I did not cause any damage. > BTW, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I think I drove only 20-30 miles with the extra quart... I hope I did > not cause any damage. Are you sure you had an extra quart in the crankcase? I typically see an overfill on the dipstick after changing oil and filter. I add the exact amount specified in the manual and it always looks overfilled. I've noticed the same thing on several cars I've owned and never had a problem. >> BTW, >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I've noticed the same thing on several cars I've owned and never had a > problem. Hi... Does it still check over-full after running it long enough to fill the filter? Take care. Ken | > Are you sure you had an extra quart in the crankcase? I typically see | > an overfill on the dipstick after changing oil and filter. I add the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | Take care. | Ken Good question Ken . Yes it does. I always start the engine and run it for a few minutes at idle just to make sure there are no leaks. Then I check the old level and it usually reads high by at least a half quart, maybe more. I don't even wait for oil to drain back into the crankcase, I just check the level to make sure it's okay and I didn't do something stupid. I like to see the nice clean oil on the dip stick. :-) > | > Are you sure you had an extra quart in the crankcase? I typically > see [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > just check the level to make sure it's okay and I didn't do something > stupid. I like to see the nice clean oil on the dip stick. :-) OH. That explains a lot! The sloshing oil is climbing up the dipstick! Check the oil with the engine cold, before you start it. Then you'll get an accurate reading of what is in the crankcase! | > Good question Ken . Yes it does. I always start the engine and run it | > for a few minutes at idle just to make sure there are no leaks. Then I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | engine cold, before you start it. Then you'll get an accurate reading of | what is in the crankcase! I really don't think there is any "sloshing oil" after the engine has stopped. Waiting a few minutes might give a more accurate reading, but waiting until the engine is cold is unnecessary. > | > Good question Ken . Yes it does. I always start the engine and run > it [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > stopped. Waiting a few minutes might give a more accurate reading, but > waiting until the engine is cold is unnecessary. Yeah, that too. But as far as sloshing oil, the bottom end of the piston rods are bathed in oil, so some splashing does occur... > > I really don't think there is any "sloshing oil" after the engine has > > stopped. Waiting a few minutes might give a more accurate reading, but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > But as far as sloshing oil, the bottom end of the piston rods are bathed > in oil, so some splashing does occur... errr, "after the engine has stopped.."? When you say "bathed", you do mean pressure fed, don't you? >> > I really don't think there is any "sloshing oil" after the engine has >> > stopped. Waiting a few minutes might give a more accurate reading, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > When you say "bathed", you do mean pressure fed, don't you? I dunno...I drive Toyotas, mostly. AFAIK, the bottom of the piston rods sit in the oil. I was thinking about this suject today, and I remembered back when I was in my 20's (um, this was just a *few* years ago... ;) A girl came up to a friend and I and said her car wouldn't start. She had an early 70's Mustang, a "Secretary Special", with a 6 cyl. You could here the solenoid actuating, everything seemed OK, but it just wouldn't crank. The other guy with me for some unknown reason pulled the dipstick, I guess to see if there was enough oil and trying to judge if the pistons had seized. There was oil, alright! All the way up the spout! He asked her how so much oil got in the engine, and she said, "I dunno...I just have them put a quart in every time I get gas"...! She thought cars burned oil as well as gas, and thought you had to add oil every time you added gas. We went back to my car and got my wrenches, and drained a quart...then another...then another...about 5 quarts. When it finally got to the FULL mark on the dipstick, we had her try it and the car started right up. > >> > I really don't think there is any "sloshing oil" after the engine has > >> > stopped. Waiting a few minutes might give a more accurate reading, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I dunno...I drive Toyotas, mostly. AFAIK, the bottom of the piston rods > sit in the oil. Likely not when the engine is running and the pump is feeding oil to the lube system. (or when the crankcase is overfull) In operation, "oiling" for the rod bearings is accomplished by pressure feed.via the cross drilled holes in the crankshaft journals. > I was thinking about this suject today, and I remembered back when I was > in my 20's (um, this was just a *few* years ago... ;) [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > finally got to the FULL mark on the dipstick, we had her try it and the > car started right up. Now that's a good one. I can just see the head of oil all the way back up to the top end!! So now we come back to visualizing a crankcase SO full that on cranking the pistons have nowhere to go on the BOTTOM and generate a hydrostatic lock. Hilarious!! >> She thought cars burned oil as well as gas, and thought you had to add >> oil every time you added gas. We went back to my car and got my [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that on cranking the pistons have nowhere to go on the BOTTOM and generate > a hydrostatic lock. Hilarious!! We thought it was, too...we also showed her how to read a dipstick... Crude comments removed! ;P > Crude comments removed! ;P But wasn't that a thread about oil? >> Crude comments removed! ;P > > But wasn't that a thread about oil? <GROAN...> Good one...good one! > But as far as sloshing oil, the bottom end of the piston rods are bathed > in oil, so some splashing does occur... Not unless the engine is over-filled! Only lawnmower engines and other "splash" oiled engines dip the conrods into the oil. On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:52:20 -0800, cheerful wrote: > BTW, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I think I drove only 20-30 miles with the extra quart... I hope I did not > cause any damage. Was that all? An extra quart? I thought it was more than that! I fill my Toyotas (and my GR Vger when I had it) with the proper amount of oil, less one-half quart; then I put in a quart of Marvel Mystery Oil. No probs, until I did this on the Honda (same one with the blown engine...I started doing my own oil changes after that!) and the car wouldn't start! 1/2 Quart over? Maybe it has something to do with the way Hondas move oil...? >>With a 3-quart overfill, I can picture some damage being done, including >>blown seals (penguin/ice cream jokes notwithstanding). [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Steve B. I suspect if you put enough oil in most engines and rev. them high enough some seal or gasket will let loose from dynamic localized pressure (I just snuck the word gasket in there). :) Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x') > >With a 3-quart overfill, I can picture some damage being done, including > >blown seals (penguin/ice cream jokes notwithstanding). > > Why would you picture damaged seals? It does not matter how much you > overfill the system... the oil pressure will not go up. Seems to me that if you filled an engine right up to the top and started it up there would be some increase of pressure. I have never actually tried filling an engine until it was full, but I would be extremely surprised if all the oil stayed contained inside the engine when it was started up. > Think of a > gas pump at the gas station. There could be 300 gallons of gas in the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > oil in to a froth and the oil pump can't pump froth effectively so > your oil pressure goes down until you stop or the engine stops. But that is not what he said happened. He said he got a new engine and that the service rep explained that Hydraulic Lock was the cause of the engine failure. This sounds believable (why would they lie). What he probably got confused about is what valve was involved. It probably wasn't the engine valves but the PCV valve that caused the failure. I can imagine, under the circumstances described, a geyser of oil being sucked into the engine thru the PCV valve. -jim > The seals aren't subjected to any serious pressure. They mostly just > keep the splashing oil from leaking out. Worst case scenario is a > seal would be sitting in oil and might leak a little until the oil > level drops back under it. > > Steve B. On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 05:25:30 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote: >Oil is under pressure. If there is too much oil, and the pressure builds, >then it can push out seals meant to keep it out of places. If the OP is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >If not, it can push out the valve seals and drop into the engine, and >since a liquid cannot be pressurized...BANG! Hydraulic Lock... There is nothing accurate in this post... The oil pump is sucking oil out of the oil pan which is essentially a bucket. The oil pump has no idea if there is 1 quart of oil in that bucket or 300 gallons of oil in that bucket. The problem with overfilling is that the spinning crankshaft comes in contact with the oil. The whipping action of the crankshaft will aerate the oil and turn it in to a foamy froth. The oil pump can not pump this froth so you loose oil pressure and soon after loose an engine if you don't stop. Valve seals are not exposed to pressurized oil. Any lubrication needs they have are handled by oil splashing off the other valve train components. Steve B. > On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 05:25:30 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Steve B. You are correct Steve. Also, don't the oil pump have a pressure relief valve built into them so that excess pressure doesn't build up? Hank Hank > Oil is under pressure. If there is too much oil, and the pressure builds, > then it can push out seals meant to keep it out of places. If the OP is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If not, it can push out the valve seals and drop into the engine, and > since a liquid cannot be pressurized...BANG! Hydraulic Lock... Oh wow that's quite the story. Liquids can't be compressed eh? Well damn, that's just re-writing the laws of physics right there. I guess oil doesn't burn in the combustion chamber either. You learn something new every day.  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > Oh wow that's quite the story. Liquids can't be compressed eh? Well damn, > that's just re-writing the laws of physics right there. I guess oil doesn't > burn in the combustion chamber either. You learn something new every day. While he's wrong about the oil "locking up" the engine, it is indeed true that liquids can't be compressed. You can put pressure on a liquid, but you can't compress it. There's a difference. That's the fundamental principle of how hydraulic systems work... Perhaps you should have paid more attention in that high school physics class... Signature"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". > > Oh wow that's quite the story. Liquids can't be compressed eh? Well damn, > > that's just re-writing the laws of physics right there. I guess oil doesn't [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". It's easy to get a hydrostatic lock with glycol/water...all it takes is a head gasket leak. > While he's wrong about the oil "locking up" the engine, He is? How? You guys keep telling me I'm wrong, but did you ever have it happen to you? The one time I went ti Jiffy Lube, they overfilled by 3 quarts. The car started hard and the engine blew. They wanted to put in a 'remanufactured' engine, but the car was a year and a half old, so I insisted on a new engine. Oil can't lock up an engine, huh? Sure... On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:32:11 +0000, Hachiroku wrote: >> While he's wrong about the oil "locking up" the engine, > He is? How? You guys keep telling me I'm wrong, but did you ever have it > happen to you? Nope. See below. > The one time I went ti Jiffy Lube, they overfilled by 3 quarts. The car > started hard and the engine blew. They wanted to put in a 'remanufactured' > engine, but the car was a year and a half old, so I insisted on a new > engine. > > Oil can't lock up an engine, huh? Sure... Perhaps it can (I won't claim to know all possible situations), but not in the manner you claimed ("leaking past the valve seals"). Is that clear enough for you? Signature"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". > On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:32:11 +0000, Hachiroku wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > -- > "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". Well, I guess IF the crankcase was just SO full of extra oil that there was absolujtely no room for the downgoing pistons to move it, then some degree of hydraulic locking MIGHT be possible. In that case, blown crank seals MIGHT be a possibility. Hydraulic locking is usually associated with a full combustion chamber, either with fuel or with coolant or, in the case of radial engines, with oil in the bottom jug. >> Oil can't lock up an engine, huh? Sure... > > Perhaps it can (I won't claim to know all possible situations), but not in > the manner you claimed ("leaking past the valve seals"). > > Is that clear enough for you? Actually, what it may do is remove the air space from the pan and lock it that way. And mine was not the only case of Hydraulic Lock I have heard of from being overfilled. So, the valve seals was a guess... And SuSE is just right. Well, except 10.2. If you're going to include all these fancy desktop tricks, you could at least make sure it works with Ati video cards...they're only currently the world's biggest Video chip maker... I like Ubuntu....more Windows users should try it! (But that is a discussion for another group...Oh, knoppix is cool, too...saved my bacon when Windows or SuSE 9.3 has blown it's brains out!) > > Oh wow that's quite the story. Liquids can't be compressed eh? Well damn, > > that's just re-writing the laws of physics right there. I guess oil doesn't [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Perhaps you should have paid more attention in that high school physics > class... High school was an awfully long time ago. ;) As I remember it, there are three basic states of matter. Gaseous, liquid, and solid. Well four, but plasma is irrelevant here. Liquids are not easily compressed but should enough pressure be applied (definitely beyond anything occuring inside an engine) but there is a compression factor. Why do you think there are specific hydraulic oils? SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> While he's wrong about the oil "locking up" the engine, it is indeed true >> that liquids can't be compressed. You can put pressure on a liquid, but >> you can't compress it. There's a difference. That's the fundamental >> principle of how hydraulic systems work... > As I remember it, there are three basic states of matter. Gaseous, liquid, > and solid. Well four, but plasma is irrelevant here. Liquids are not easily > compressed but should enough pressure be applied (definitely beyond anything > occuring inside an engine) but there is a compression factor. Why do you > think there are specific hydraulic oils? There are diffferent hydraulic oils for several reasons, but the amount of compression each exhibits is a very minor (at best) factor. It's more a matter of temperature tolerance/stability and lubrication requirements. But anyway..., for all intents and purposes (and certainly in the context of *this* discussion), the fact remains that liguids are not compressable. We are, after all, discussing a car engine, as you said above. Signature"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". SBlackfoot <trypticon@sympatico.obvious.ca> wrote in article <459d8693$0$4815$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>... > > Oil is under pressure. If there is too much oil, and the pressure builds, > > then it can push out seals meant to keep it out of places. If the OP is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > that's just re-writing the laws of physics right there. I guess oil doesn't > burn in the combustion chamber either. You learn something new every day. As wrong as he is about everything else, Pascal's Law - and virtually everything hydraulic - works on the very principal that liquids, in fact, CANNOT be compressed. They can be pressurized, but NOT compressed. OTOH - You are correct in chiding him about oil burning off in the combustion process. > Hello all, > > I think by mistake I have overfilled my DODGE 2003 GRAND CARAVAN SE > with 1 to 1.5 quarts of oil.. It is like 1 inch over the max level on > the gauge. If you replaced the filter, but have not started the engine yet, you may be seeing the filter volume (which will go away when you start the engine). Otherwise, if you have really overfilled it, then drain out a quart or so. You can tolerate a little overfill with no problem, but a quart or more is too much. > Hello all, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > please let me know your thoughts.. Are you sure you put in too much oil? I had a Dakota that took 6 qts in the 4.7 V-8. I was the first person to change the oil and the dip stick showed that it was over full. I was positive I only put in 6 qts. with the filter. I found out the Dakota had the wrong dip stick. I never found the correct dip stick, so I just filed a notch where the FULL level was. Hank |
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