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Tom Rogers - 16 Mar 2007 15:25 GMT

I have had a problem for a while now, my yellow ABS, red BRAKE, and green
TRAC OFF indicator lights are on all the time. The ABS brakes work, I tested
them on snow/ice, regular brakes work fine too. I have no idea what the TRAC
OFF (Traction Off) means.

I took this in to the Dodge dealer 2 times for this, the first time they
said the lights were not on when they looked at it so they did nothing. At
this time, they were on and off intermittently. Then they came on again, so
I took it in again and the tech notes said "No initial communication with
the ABS module - disconnected harness, reconnected and lights went out. Test
according to manual and found no faults". So again, nothing was done. To me
that indicates a computer problem.

Then they lights came on AGAIN, and have stayed on for a week straight. Also
during this week, every now and again, when we start the car, the
speedomoter, fuel guage, and temp guage go to full max then back to normal
position - like a computer is screwy.

Well, yesterday the car would not start, all we got was a click, click,
click, click and all the indicators "freaked out" going to max and back,
each time we tried to start it. So I had it towed to the local Dodge dealer,
a different one than the first 2 times I took it in. They said it was an
internal short in the battery, so they replaced the battery (2x what I could
have paid at Wal-Mart, btw) and I got the car and the lights were out,
everything seemed fine.

Well, today the lights all came back on again, and they are still on. Again,
I have full brakes and ABS is working. Any clues? This is going back Tuesday
AM, to the original Dodge dealer that I first took it to the first 2 times
for this issue, because I already paid my Ext Warranty deductible there for
this problem and they are going to fix it without me paying another
deductible, or I'll be very ticked!

Taking cars to Dodge dealers are VERY expensive and then they can't fix the
problems right the FIRST time, you always have to take the car back 2-3
times before they get it right - why is that? If I did my job like that I
would not have a job!

I'd like to know what the heck the problem could be or is...

-Tom Rogers

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maxpower - 16 Mar 2007 20:57 GMT

> I have had a problem for a while now, my yellow ABS, red BRAKE, and green
> TRAC OFF indicator lights are on all the time. The ABS brakes work, I tested
> them on snow/ice, regular brakes work fine too. I have no idea what the TRAC
> OFF (Traction Off) means.

When ever you have an ABS problem the traction control will also be
effeected. Traction control is designed to stop a wheel (s) from spinning
by apllying brake pressure to the wheel (s)

> I took this in to the Dodge dealer 2 times for this, the first time they
> said the lights were not on when they looked at it so they did nothing. At
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> have paid at Wal-Mart, btw) and I got the car and the lights were out,
> everything seemed fine.

I was just getting ready to say the battery because that is a typical
compaint when a battery goes bad.

> Well, today the lights all came back on again, and they are still on. Again,
> I have full brakes and ABS is working. Any clues? This is going back Tuesday
> AM, to the original Dodge dealer that I first took it to the first 2 times
> for this issue, because I already paid my Ext Warranty deductible there for
> this problem and they are going to fix it without me paying another
> deductible, or I'll be very ticked!

Find out what code is stored and what code is active on the Anti lock brake
module. you will have to get this from the dealer/technican and let me know.
what kind of service contract do you have, MAX care or Added care?

> Taking cars to Dodge dealers are VERY expensive and then they can't fix the
> problems right the FIRST time, you always have to take the car back 2-3
> times before they get it right - why is that? If I did my job like that I
> would not have a job!

Intermittent problems are hard to diagnois sometimes, but now that the
problem is occuring and wont go away take it back to the dealer

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech

> I'd like to know what the heck the problem could be or is...
>
> -Tom Rogers

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Tom Rogers - 16 Mar 2007 21:16 GMT

I put the scantool on the computer connection that is IN the car, put there
are no codes on it. Where do I connect to the ABS module? How many computer
modules are on the car total?

Also, since the last tech to check it out said there was no communication
with the ABS module until he removed the harness and re-connected, wouldn't
that indicate an ABS module problem? Is fo, why don't they change it out and
test it?

-Tom

> Find out what code is stored and what code is active on the Anti lock
> brake
> module. you will have to get this from the dealer/technican and let me
> know.
> what kind of service contract do you have, MAX care or Added care?

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maxpower - 17 Mar 2007 12:24 GMT

> I put the scantool on the computer connection that is IN the car, put there
> are no codes on it. Where do I connect to the ABS module? How many computer
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> > know.
> > what kind of service contract do you have, MAX care or Added care?

I have no idea what your scan tool will read, most will only pull codes from
the engine controller, If you are not familiar with this system have it
fixed by someone that is.

Glenn

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