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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / July 2007

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Help! Have I fried my 2001 Caravan PCM?

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Pinky56 - 30 May 2007 03:56 GMT
I was attempting to bypass the low-pressure cycling switch to engage
my air conditioning compressor using a jumper wire.  I made a rookie
mistake and touched the hot wire to the wrong end of the switch plug.
The vehicle immediate shut off and now will only start by pressing the
gas pedal.  It runs rough and will not idle without gas.  I received
various fault codes (0122, 0117, 0107, 1478, 1599, 1496, and 1192)
that all relate to low voltage sensed at various components.  Is there
no fuse or other in-line protection against such a power surge or
perhaps some sort of reset on the PCM?  Any assistance or diagnosis
would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

Pinky
damnnickname - 30 May 2007 12:48 GMT
It sounds as if you burnt up the 5 volt sensor supply that the PCM uses for
the sensor circuit. You dont specify an engine size so I will assume its a
6 cyl. Check the Pink/yellow wire for 5 volts at the TPS sensor. If you
have nothing Go to the PCM C2 connector and at pin 61 (it should be
numbered on the connector) check for 5 volts with the key on. If not, see
your local Dealer for a new PCM and it has to be programmed with the Scan
tool.
Let me know what you find.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
Pinky56 - 30 May 2007 15:48 GMT
Thank you very much for your reply Glenn.  I checked that Pink/yellow
wire at both the sensor (MAP) and at the PCM and have approx 5 volts
with the key on.  I also checked the sensor ground at both ends and
they appear to be in tact.  Any ideas?  Is it possible there is a
fusable link blown somewhere.  Any ideas what this repair bill may
run?  By the way, your assumption about the engine size is correct
(3.3L).  Thanks again.

Pinky
maxpower - 30 May 2007 21:48 GMT
> Thank you very much for your reply Glenn.  I checked that Pink/yellow
> wire at both the sensor (MAP) and at the PCM and have approx 5 volts
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> Pinky

Do a battery disconnect for about 2 min and restart the vehicle to see what
fault codes have returned. You could have a sense wire shorted to ground.
With the multiple codes you have, it may be another sensor that is affected
and the test you just did on the TPS was good. see what codes came back. A
scan tool would be very helpful to show what the sensor values are. Not a
fusible link or fuse problem. A job like that may be from 2 to 4 hrs to
diagnose and repair with the right books and scan tool may be cheaper.

Good luck

Glenn
Pinky56 - 12 Jun 2007 00:09 GMT
It was the PCM, I grounded out the sensor wire.  $400 lesson.
maxpower - 12 Jun 2007 00:13 GMT
> It was the PCM, I grounded out the sensor wire.  $400 lesson.

Why $400.00?

Glenn
Pinky56 - 16 Jul 2007 16:18 GMT
> > It was the PCM, I grounded out the sensor wire.  $400 lesson.
>
> Why $400.00?
>
> Glenn

The mechanic was able to find a used PCM at one of the local wreckers
and then had it "flashed" (which I assume to mean reprogrammed) at
Lordco.  Total cost of repair job was a little over $400.
maxpower - 17 Jul 2007 00:13 GMT
> > > It was the PCM, I grounded out the sensor wire.  $400 lesson.
> >
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> and then had it "flashed" (which I assume to mean reprogrammed) at
> Lordco.  Total cost of repair job was a little over $400.

Hmm ,you are a brave person to swap PCM's. you could have caused major
problems by doing that, And $400 is to much money for a used PCM
 
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