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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / September 2007

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1970 Dodge Challenger

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Nomen Nescio - 24 Sep 2007 13:50 GMT
no reserve auction: http://301url.com/1970Challenger
Ripcord - 24 Sep 2007 21:14 GMT
That is one beautiful car

> no reserve auction: http://301url.com/1970Challenger
kmath50@gmail.com - 27 Sep 2007 15:49 GMT
> That is one beautiful car
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While the 6 cylinder models are not as popular for collecting, this
one appears to be in good condition, and the *Plum Crazy" paint job is
a plus.

-KM
Mike Y - 27 Sep 2007 16:10 GMT
> > That is one beautiful car
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> -KM

It's not a "6-cylinder model".  If the badging is correct, it was an R/T
that
had the motor pulled and replaced

If I remember correctly, the 383Magnum was the smallest engine available
in an R/T package.

In the early 70's, I saw this a number of times.  There was a guy with an
orange SuperBird in south Bethlehem that dropped in a 318 and used
it as a commuter car.
kmath50@gmail.com - 27 Sep 2007 20:41 GMT
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I believe that this is correct, in that the 383 was the smallest
engine available for the R/T package. If it truely is an R/T, some of
the collector value would be lost by swapping out the 383. It also
says that it is a 3-speed, but it has the "pistol grip" shifter. Is it
possible that a 6 cylinder and three speed transmission were swapped
in, and the pistol grip shifter could be adapted to work with the
three speed transmission?

If I were buying it, I would want all the numbers to match.

I do remember the ads for the Challenger, and the slant 6 was offered
at the time.

-KM
Mike Y - 27 Sep 2007 23:20 GMT
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> -KM

I don't think the pistol grip shifter was offered or compatible with the
3-speed.  I had access to a Charger RT 440-6 for a short time that
had the pistol grip shifter and it was really nice.  Classy.

I just had a friend pick up the shifter for his son's car...  It's quite
collectable in itself.
aarcuda69062 - 28 Sep 2007 00:29 GMT
> It's not a "6-cylinder model".  If the badging is correct, it was an R/T
> that
> had the motor pulled and replaced

Copied from he auction listing;
"Up for auction is a Plum Crazy '70 Challenger that retains its
original 6cyl. engine and 3-speed manual transmission, complete
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
with pistol grip shifter. Car is very solid both on the body and
the undercarriage with no signs of rust. The paint is newer and I
would give it a 7 out of 10. Car has R/T badging and comes with
an 8 3/4 rearend, ready for your big block conversion "

Looks like it's an original slant 6 car that has had R/T badging
applied.
The pistol grip was no doubt added as it wasn't the standard
shifter for a three speed.

> If I remember correctly, the 383Magnum was the smallest engine available
> in an R/T package.
>
> In the early 70's, I saw this a number of times.  There was a guy with an
> orange SuperBird in south Bethlehem that dropped in a 318 and used
> it as a commuter car.
Les Benn - 28 Sep 2007 05:21 GMT
>> It's not a "6-cylinder model".  If the badging is correct, it was an R/T
>> that
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>> orange SuperBird in south Bethlehem that dropped in a 318 and used
>> it as a commuter car.
the 383 Challenger was a heck of a car a friend of mine had one. It would
really move out. Maybe not as quick as the hemi but more than enough to push
you into the seat.
Mike Y - 28 Sep 2007 12:03 GMT
> > It's not a "6-cylinder model".  If the badging is correct, it was an R/T
> > that
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> The pistol grip was no doubt added as it wasn't the standard
> shifter for a three speed.

Well, while I suppose it could be done, I really would suspect the motor
was pulled as opposed to the badging being done.  The "R/T" badges
that are chrome on the sides are just too good.  Also, the exhaust
appears to be original RT style, and I don't think there was any
dual exhaust option for the 225 from the factory.

Also, I thought the factory R/T package included an engine mark on
the sides of the scoop.  But since there was no 225 badge that I ever
heard of, I suppose a clean scoop is ok.

Finally, the pistol grip is the 'flat plate' and while I can't read the top
of the shifter, it appears to be a 4-speed, but again, I can't really tell.

There are two possibilities.  One is the motor was pulled and replaced
with a 225, and the hood was 'filled' and repainted when the motor
designation was pulled.  The other is the R/T markings were all added
later, as well as the flat plate pistol grip shifter and dual exhaust.  If
the
badging was added and the mods made, someone did a pretty good
job.
aarcuda69062 - 28 Sep 2007 16:36 GMT
> > The pistol grip was no doubt added as it wasn't the standard
> > shifter for a three speed.
>
> Well, while I suppose it could be done,

The shifter?  Absolutely.  I put a B body pistol grip shifter in
a 1967 Jeep 4X4 pick-up back in 1978.

> I really would suspect the motor
> was pulled as opposed to the badging being done.  

Comparing the VIN stamping on the engine against the windshield
VIN and body stampings is all that's needed.

> The "R/T" badges
> that are chrome on the sides are just too good.  

Readily available from Year One and others.

> Also, the exhaust
> appears to be original RT style, and I don't think there was any
> dual exhaust option for the 225 from the factory.

Swap the rear valance, buy some repop tips and either hang one as
a dummy or have an exhaust shop bend some pipe.

> Also, I thought the factory R/T package included an engine mark on
> the sides of the scoop.  But since there was no 225 badge that I ever
> heard of, I suppose a clean scoop is ok.

Raisin Bran hood from a bone yard.

> Finally, the pistol grip is the 'flat plate' and while I can't read the top
> of the shifter, it appears to be a 4-speed, but again, I can't really tell.

Looking at the shifter won't reveal whether it's a 3 speed or a 4
speed.

> There are two possibilities.  One is the motor was pulled and replaced
> with a 225, and the hood was 'filled' and repainted when the motor
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> badging was added and the mods made, someone did a pretty good
> job.

Why would someone misrepresent a real R/T as a non-R/T vehicle?
philthy - 30 Sep 2007 02:12 GMT
the pistol grip could be ordered for that car   and i know some one who has one
and it has the same set up but his is black
he bought his from a retire chrysler exec

> > It's not a "6-cylinder model".  If the badging is correct, it was an R/T
> > that
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> > orange SuperBird in south Bethlehem that dropped in a 318 and used
> > it as a commuter car.
Nomen Nescio - 29 Sep 2007 19:00 GMT
> no reserve auction: http://301url.com/1970Challenger

"The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the minimum
bid or reserve amount."

Bummer! Well, here are ALL of them:

http://301url.com/1970Challengers
 
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