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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / March 2008

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New Crank positioned senor didn't help

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Bruce - 15 Mar 2008 01:33 GMT
Got part, Dealer said Crank positioned senor was behind the power steering
pump on the right side of motor, and I would have to pull power steering
pump bracket. It took 2 hours to remove the pump and bracket, and the upper
and lower plastic cover over the cam shaft belt. Could not find Crank
positioned senor! Called a local garage, and was told the senor was on
other side of motor, over the starter! It was there! Put part in, Started
fine, Ran OK for 5 miles, then it cut off the Cruise Control by its self
and motor started cutting out (Missing). I will try to get a new error code
soon. Any Ideas?
maxpower - 15 Mar 2008 11:56 GMT
> Got part, Dealer said Crank positioned senor was behind the power steering
> pump on the right side of motor, and I would have to pull power steering
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> and motor started cutting out (Missing). I will try to get a new error code
> soon. Any Ideas?

Your gonna have to get out your DVO meter and start doing checks while you
wiggle wires. Since it is an intermittent problem you may have a hard time
finding it unless you see a shorted wire in the harness or bad pin in a
connector. Is this a 2 or four door Stratus?

Glenn
Bruce - 17 Mar 2008 21:08 GMT
>> Got part, Dealer said Crank positioned senor was behind the power
>> steering pump on the right side of motor, and I would have to pull
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Glenn

It's a 4 door, I'm now getting an error code 0300 Could it be the spark
plug wires? They look good and the problems comes and goes. It's
starting fine now, just starts missing while driving.
Thanks for your help
Bruce
maxpower - 17 Mar 2008 21:18 GMT
> >> Got part, Dealer said Crank positioned senor was behind the power
> >> steering pump on the right side of motor, and I would have to pull
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Thanks for your help
> Bruce

A P0300 is a multiple cylinder misfire and could be almost anything from
fuel problems to plugs and wires, clogged exhaust you name it!!

Glenn
Bruce - 18 Mar 2008 01:27 GMT
>> >> Got part, Dealer said Crank positioned senor was behind the power
>> >> steering pump on the right side of motor, and I would have to pull
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Glenn

I'm going to put new plug wires on and look at the exhaust Cat.
Converter before I take it to the local garage. I miss the old days of
Chev 283 and 327. I could work on those. I really do thank you for your
help and I'll post the fix if I ever find it!
Thanks! Bruce
aarcuda69062 - 19 Mar 2008 04:32 GMT
> > >> Got part, Dealer said Crank positioned senor was behind the power
> > >> steering pump on the right side of motor, and I would have to pull
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Glenn

Fixed it for ya.
maxpower - 19 Mar 2008 22:12 GMT
> > > >> Got part, Dealer said Crank positioned senor was behind the power
> > > >> steering pump on the right side of motor, and I would have to pull
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Fixed it for ya.

Lost me?
aarcuda69062 - 20 Mar 2008 05:16 GMT
> > > > >> Got part, Dealer said Crank positioned senor was behind the power
> > > > >> steering pump on the right side of motor, and I would have to pull
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> > >
> > > A P0300 is a random cylinder misfire and could be almost anything from
                           ^^^^^^
> > > fuel problems to plugs and wires, clogged exhaust you name it!!
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Lost me?
maxpower - 20 Mar 2008 22:22 GMT
> > > > > >> Got part, Dealer said Crank positioned senor was behind the power
> > > > > >> steering pump on the right side of motor, and I would have to pull
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> > > >
> > > > Glenn

> > > Fixed it for ya.
> >
> > Lost me?

Our books are written as a multiple meaning more then one. Random is one or
the other. The fault code in the diagnostic book say's "P0300 as a multiple
cylinder misfire" meaning more then one
aarcuda69062 - 21 Mar 2008 07:42 GMT
> Our books are written as a multiple meaning more then one. Random is one or
> the other. The fault code in the diagnostic book say's "P0300 as a multiple
> cylinder misfire" meaning more then one

Sorry but, a P0300 is not a manufacturer defined code.  It is a
SAE defined generic OBDII code and is defined as a random
misfire.
damnnickname - 21 Mar 2008 12:07 GMT
How do you say Tomato?

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aarcuda69062 - 22 Mar 2008 02:48 GMT
In article
<4312dba51e3d3f5e63c07c2de8d46cb9@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>,

> How do you say Tomato?

I don't pronounce it Potato
Hank - 22 Mar 2008 13:26 GMT
> In article
> <4312dba51e3d3f5e63c07c2de8d46cb9@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>,
>
>> How do you say Tomato?
>
> I don't pronounce it Potato

The DTC Lookup program that came with my Actron scanner shows P0300
as "Random/Multiple Misfire Detected".
Glenn's reference shows "Multiple" and your reference shows "Random".
Apparently there are variations for this listing.
maxpower - 22 Mar 2008 13:38 GMT
> > In article
> > <4312dba51e3d3f5e63c07c2de8d46cb9@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>,
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> Glenn's reference shows "Multiple" and your reference shows "Random".
> Apparently there are variations for this listing.

That's why my last reply asked how do you say Tomato
aarcuda69062 - 22 Mar 2008 19:35 GMT
> > > In article
> > > <4312dba51e3d3f5e63c07c2de8d46cb9@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> That's why my last reply asked how do you say Tomato

So, now you're saying that it's "random/multiple?"
maxpower - 22 Mar 2008 21:11 GMT
> > > > In article
> > > > <4312dba51e3d3f5e63c07c2de8d46cb9@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> So, now you're saying that it's "random/multiple?"

lol, Im saying what I was taught it meant when it was written into our books
and that was a multiple cylinder misfire, and you can say it means random.
That's why I asked you how you say tomato because it makes no difference to
me. we both no what the fault means. And how you say tomato...we both no
what it is.

Enjoy

Glenn
Tony D. - 22 Mar 2008 22:03 GMT
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <4312dba51e3d3f5e63c07c2de8d46cb9@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Glenn

Except they DON'T mean the same thing. If cyls 1 & 3 fail at the same
time many times, it is "multiple" but not "random" and the problem would
be something common to 1 & 3. If you had failures of 1 & 3, then 2 & 6,
etc you'd have multiple AND random misfires.
aarcuda69062 - 22 Mar 2008 19:31 GMT
> > In article
> > <4312dba51e3d3f5e63c07c2de8d46cb9@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> The DTC Lookup program that came with my Actron scanner shows P0300
> as "Random/Multiple Misfire Detected".

Someone at Actron should inform SAE that they're wrong.

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