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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / July 2009

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Quandry about 1995 Town and Country

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 06 Jul 2009 20:04 GMT
Have a chance to buy a 1995 T&C van. it actually has a lot more than I
need, since I am going to use it to carry guitars, amps and a PA system
around.

The good things:
The body is in good shape, just starting to turn 'brown' in sopts
underneath, but no real rust or holes anywhere.

Doors all work properly, leather seats in fiar shape, no cracks or splits.
Starts readily. Has what sounds like chain noise that goes away in a few
seconds.

The bad:
Clunk going into reverse. Reverse only. Gear transitions are smooth. Going
from Park to drive OK, going from ANY gear or neutral to revcerse and
there is a clunk, seems to be driver's side front (right where the tranny
sits...)

Rear end feels loose. Lots of clunking from the rear, and a slight shudder.
Everything looks OK, no cracks in the springs, no loose mountings, etc.
Shocks seem bad, and perhaps wheel bearings?

The Ugly:
ABS light on. Brake light on. HARD brakes; you really have to stand on it
to get it to stop.

Listed at $1495(RIGHT!) - $500=$995.

I offered $400, they countered with $700. I would go maybe $600 depending
on these problems. The brakes seem the scariest, obviously.
Dan C - 07 Jul 2009 02:25 GMT
> Have a chance to buy a 1995 T&C van. it actually has a lot more than I
> need, since I am going to use it to carry guitars, amps and a PA system
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> I offered $400, they countered with $700. I would go maybe $600
> depending on these problems. The brakes seem the scariest, obviously.

Don't be an idiot.  Run the other way.

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clare@snyder.on.ca - 07 Jul 2009 04:10 GMT
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:04:51 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS>
wrote:

>Have a chance to buy a 1995 T&C van. it actually has a lot more than I
>need, since I am going to use it to carry guitars, amps and a PA system
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>I offered $400, they countered with $700. I would go maybe $600 depending
>on these problems. The brakes seem the scariest, obviously.

1995 - with chain noise on startup? 2600 Mitsubishi "hemi" engine I'll
bet. For $50 it's STILL an expensive vehicle.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 07 Jul 2009 03:46 GMT
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:10:45 -0400, clare wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:04:51 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> 1995 - with chain noise on startup? 2600 Mitsubishi "hemi" engine I'll
> bet. For $50 it's STILL an expensive vehicle.

SB 3.8 V6...
HLS - 07 Jul 2009 20:55 GMT
> On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:10:45 -0400, clare wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> SB 3.8 V6...

You are going to get the same answers here that you got on rec.autos. tech
and perhaps other newsgroups.

This thing is a piece of sh.t, man.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 07 Jul 2009 21:04 GMT
>>>>I offered $400, they countered with $700. I would go maybe $600 depending
>>>>on these problems. The brakes seem the scariest, obviously.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> This thing is a piece of sh.t, man.

Yeah...

I posted it here first. Then copied it to the others.

The only thing it has going for it, the body is SOLID. No rust at all.
Hard to find here in the salty Northeast...

Mechanicals I can deal with. A rust-ridden body is something else.

They countered with $700. Even I knew that's not a good price for
something with this many issues...
HLS - 09 Jul 2009 01:37 GMT
"Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message

> They countered with $700. Even I knew that's not a good price for
> something with this many issues...

What do you mean, even you?  You have a good feel for a lot of these
things.

You WANT to buy this, I think, but you  know you SHOULDN'T buy it.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 Jul 2009 03:53 GMT
> "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> You WANT to buy this, I think, but you  know you SHOULDN'T buy it.

I think that's it. The real scary thing is the brakes. Whatever happened
to Gordon (?) the tech that used to be here?

But, I'm afraid I know what he would say, and I'm sure it's what I have
been suspecting since I put my foot on the brake pedal for the first time.

It's too bad, since the body is so solid. I would put $500 into it just
because of that, but only if I were to get it for $400...or less...
Steve N. - 09 Jul 2009 06:42 GMT
>. Whatever happened
> to Gordon (?) the tech that used to be here?

You mean Glenn Beasley (maxpower, damnickname)??
If so, good question. He was a great resource...
Hachiroku ハチロク - 11 Jul 2009 01:10 GMT
>>. Whatever happened
>> to Gordon (?) the tech that used to be here?
>>
> You mean Glenn Beasley (maxpower, damnickname)??
> If so, good question. He was a great resource...

yeah! That's the one!
xenomorf - 15 Jul 2009 12:54 GMT
Brakes are minor compared to other things that can go wrong. Transmission is
about 1700.00 on these things and that clunking should be your first worry.

Could be a bad mount, or could be that the the clutch plates in there are
about to go. No way to tell from here.

Brakes and the abs light on? pull the light if you want. What they don't
tell you about abs is that when there is a problem with the abs system, the
light comes on and the brakes go back to regular brakes. This means that you
still have full use of the brakes just not the abs system. Think pre abs
braking and you have it.

Would i buy it? Hard to say, i know lots about cars so would have to see and
test drive it but based on what you have said about it.....walk away, unless
you are prepared for the worst. Hope this helps a little.
> Have a chance to buy a 1995 T&C van. it actually has a lot more than I
> need, since I am going to use it to carry guitars, amps and a PA system
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> I offered $400, they countered with $700. I would go maybe $600 depending
> on these problems. The brakes seem the scariest, obviously.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 16 Jul 2009 00:31 GMT
> Brakes are minor compared to other things that can go wrong. Transmission is
> about 1700.00 on these things and that clunking should be your first worry.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> test drive it but based on what you have said about it.....walk away, unless
> you are prepared for the worst. Hope this helps a little.

I think they sold it. I hope the buyer knows his stuff about these things.
It's in the back of the lot with all the markings removed, and I figured
after a week they'd call me back.
 
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