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Car Forum / Dodge / Dodge Cars / August 2004Transmission Fluid
I have a dilemma about transmission fluid. My car is a 1988 Dodge Aries with a 3 speed automatic that has operated perfectly for over 150,000 miles. No problems at all. Last month I had the transmission fluid changed. Right away after that the 1-2 shift has become slippy and sometimes there is a lag in downshifting when I am decelerating then have to speed up again, resulting in a clunk. The lube place put in Dexron II fluid. Now, I know my 1990 LeBaron needs Plus3 fluid so I checked my Dodge Aries factory manual and it says to use Plus 7176 fluid which you cannot but. However, The Texaco web site says that Plus 3 is meant to replace Plus fluid no problem in Mopars. So I pick up a case of Plus 3 and go back to the lube shop who said they would be happy to swap the fluid for me at no charge. So I see the man and he shows me my tranny dip stick and it says to use Dexron II in it. What the heck???? The tranny says to use Dexron and the Chrysler Corporation says to use Plus fluid. I'd be happy with the Dexron except that immediately afterwards the tranny starts to act different than before. Still better than my LeBaron but on an old car, change in how something works is NOT a good think. I want to keep this car because I am putting a daughter through college and I don't really want to buy a new car. Special;ly since I rebuilt the engine last year. Anyway, can anyone enlighten me about what fluid to use. My personal e-mail address is dmfraser@sbcglobal.net. Please cc me there with any message. Thanks. Only one way to be 100% sure of the fluid type, There is a seven digit number stamped on the rear of the transaxle oil pan flange. Take that number to Dodge parts dept. That number tells all! It could of been a late model car for that year and some changes were made. HI could not find a number stamped into the pan. The bell housing has 424-24-B stamped in it. A 7 digit number you say. I'll keep looking. Dan > Only one way to be 100% sure of the fluid type, There is a seven digit > number stamped on the rear of the transaxle oil pan flange. Take that > number to Dodge parts dept. That number tells all! It could of been a > late model car for that year and some changes were made. > I have a dilemma about transmission fluid. > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Thanks. Just curious, why didn't you rebuild the trans. when you did the engine? I've seen this happen before, new engine old tranny, tranny croaks shortly there after. 150k miles on an automatic is lots, they don't last forever. I could not find the number on the bottom of the transmision so I asked a Dodge dealer and they said to believe the manual. That they use +3 on all late 80s FWD automatic transmissions. So I bit the bullet, wrote off the $100.00 I spent on a transmission fluid change a weeks before, bought 10 quarts of +3 and went to a different quick lube place and they put it for $49.00. I now have my transmission back. Its working again like it used to. Better 1-2 shifting and no clunking on down shifts. You'd think that people who specialize in lube, who make it their life's work would know this stuff. How many Mopar transmissions have died because of this? I would have thought Chrysler would have made sure all these places knew this stuff. > I could not find the number on the bottom of the transmision so I asked a > Dodge dealer and they said to believe the manual. That they use +3 on all [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > How many Mopar transmissions have died because of this? I would have thought > Chrysler would have made sure all these places knew this stuff. =============================================== The people who run these lube places don't bother to LEARN what they need to know. The information is out there, but maybe they service so many GM and Ford cars that use Dexron, they consider it "Universal Fluid." If "civilians" like most on this newsgroup know about the special requirements of Chrysler transmissions, these "SO CALLED" professionals sure should. In a lot of cases their own company manual says what they SHOULD be using but the pimplefaced high school dropout who services your car is either illiterate or too lazy to look it up. He's also the one who either leaves your oil drain plug loose or strips the threads tightening it. Heck, even the manager didn't know the difference. Its a sad state of affairs when the customers have to tell them how to do the work. I really pity the people who take the word of these people, let alone the doctor. And don't get me going on that. It took me three different medical groups and three years before I finally got a diagnosis of my daughter's problems and it was the diagnosis I suspected all along. In the mean time she was paralysed for several months, twice from drug interactions, they addicted her to morphine when she really needed a suppository, suggested I put her on methadone, suggested she be put in a mental hospital for imaginary pain and let her suffer with endometriosis for three years saying she was too young, when over 10% of all cases are with teen age girls. The kicker is was female gyno docs who dragged their feel. When we got a male doctor, we had the proper work done in just a few weeks and she's on her way to a cure finally. A long bitter story and off the topic of this news group. I pity the people who don't question and who don't have the education (and I don't mean school education but self education) to be ale to realize when they are being misled. How many people who just went and bought a new car when these places killed what was otherwise a perfectly good transmission in an good car. Dan |
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