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Photos on the owners site and Ferrari.com. I like it! T308 > Photos on the owners site and Ferrari.com. > > I like it! > > T308 Couldn't find the owner's site. Couldn't get into Ferrari World either (do those people even know how to build a website?) unless it's because the opening page is Flash, which my f.cked up OS won't run because I'm too stupid to know how to download it for Linux. Can you find something else on it? I can't. Thanks!  SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. > Photos on the owners site and Ferrari.com. > > I like it! > > T308 It's the lead picture at barchetta.cc, not bad - but I see some Mazda. What the f.ck is it this year with the bulging wheel well look? Not that I was ever the greatest Mercedes fans, but the 2006 models might as well banish themselves from the earth. Those wheel-wells-on-steroids ruin the SL65, CL65 models, and the S400 etc. I think I'd stick with the 575M. SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. > Photos on the owners site and Ferrari.com. > > I like it! > > T308 Well, I looked over all the photos on barchetta.cc; I don't know, I have to reserve judgement until I can see more. Of course there's no auto show in this part of town, I don't even think there's one in Phoenix. BUT, I do love the pentagram wheels, particularly on the green rendition!! new ad: "599 Barchetta - The Car of Satan". The front end looks 612 Scaglietti-ish. The sides are unremarkable and have that not-menacing wheel well thingy going on. The back looks like Spawn of Enzo, Spawn of F430. I don't get it. Can't these guys pen an original design any more? Or even one based somewhat on the predecessor model? That said, everybody knows I hated the Enzo and I quickly reversed that opinion once I saw Tiff toss one around at Fiorano and then a real one at an auto show. The 12-cylinder coupe being my favorite "type" of Ferrari, I do look forward to seeing more pics or video or on the street. SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. >> Photos on the owners site and Ferrari.com. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to reserve judgement until I can see more. Of course there's no auto > show in this part of town, I don't even think there's one in Phoenix. We've got the LA Auto show this week, but sadly the car won't be unveiled until Geneva at the end of the month. > BUT, I do love the pentagram wheels, particularly on the green > rendition!! new ad: "599 Barchetta - The Car of Satan". I'm glad to see the "Old Time" nomenclature come back. GTB returns! > The front end looks 612 Scaglietti-ish. There are some 612 cues in it, but I think the proportions are much better in the GTB. I was afraid that it'd have rather conservative, overly long lines of the 612, but it looks aggressive enough for me. The sides are unremarkable and > have that not-menacing wheel well thingy going on. The back looks like > Spawn of Enzo, Spawn of F430. I don't get it. Can't these guys pen an > original design any more? Or even one based somewhat on the predecessor > model? I like the various vents on the car, they help define the shape and are clearly "purposeful" not just a design element (hood vents remind me of the 365GTB). Remember, there are no new ideas at Pininfarina anymore! > That said, everybody knows I hated the Enzo and I quickly reversed that > opinion once I saw Tiff toss one around at Fiorano and then a real one > at an auto show. The 12-cylinder coupe being my favorite "type" of > Ferrari, I do look forward to seeing more pics or video or on the street. Indeed. You need to seem them in the flesh. 'Till then, I'm a fan! T308 > We've got the LA Auto show this week, but sadly the car won't be > unveiled until Geneva at the end of the month. They're going to show it at Detroit, but the official unveiling is at Geneva. You know those Europeans - other than Miami, New York, and Beverly Hills, the US doesn't exist. SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. > You know those Europeans - other than Miami, New York, and Beverly > Hills, the US doesn't exist. Who said that? -Paul >>You know those Europeans - other than Miami, New York, and Beverly >>Hills, the US doesn't exist. > > Who said that? > > -Paul C'mon. SlamAmerica is the favorite pastime of every prime minister and president on the continent, except for Blair, whose mouth is too full of GWB shoe leather to speak. It's a collective thing. Y'all still think you're superior - even the French (when they can see anything through the clouds of smoke from burning cars ...) :-) SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. >>>You know those Europeans - other than Miami, New York, and Beverly >>>Hills, the US doesn't exist. >> >> Who said that? > C'mon. SlamAmerica is the favorite pastime of every prime minister > and president on the continent, Um.... that was a joke; A poor one, I confess, but a joke nonetheless. 'The US doesn't exist' - 'who said that?' geddit? No..? well, see, if the US doesn't exist, then who...? ...OK Forget it. > except for Blair, whose mouth is too full of GWB shoe leather to > speak. I thought it was more of a tongue/anus interface deal (sincere apologies for any mental images generated). > It's a collective thing. Y'all still think you're superior - even the > French (when they can see anything through the clouds of smoke from > burning cars ...) Yes - but that's only because we are ;-) -Paul >> except for Blair, whose mouth is too full of GWB shoe leather to >> speak. > >I thought it was more of a tongue/anus interface deal (sincere apologies >for any mental images generated). ....It is indeed a tragedy of political correctness when even the felching community gets deferred to. << I do love the pentagram wheels, particularly on the green rendition!! new ad: "599 Barchetta - The Car of Satan".>> They are pentacles and what does that have to do with Satanism anyway? The pentagram and pentacle go back a few thousand yrs before Xianity, Judaism and their derivatives. They are respected symbols used by any number of Pagan religions (and various others), but aren't all that common to modern Satanists, who prefer the overblown imagery of the Baphomet or inverted pentagram. FTR, I love the wheels, but think they look silly on an exotic car like the Ferrari. C. > << I do love the pentagram wheels, particularly on the green > rendition!! new ad: "599 Barchetta - The Car of Satan".>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > common to modern Satanists, who prefer the overblown imagery of the > Baphomet or inverted pentagram. Sorry. I talked to Satan on the phone afterward and he said the same thing. Now I can't go to black services again until I slay a baby. SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. > Photos on the owners site and Ferrari.com. > > I like it! > > T308 The Hot Wheels car will be out in Nov. '06 according to their site. That was a quick listing... -Matt- "..." It's a bald, vulgar, Z06 knock-off. Perfectly hideous. A harbinger of the return to gold chains and chest merkins. Ferrari under Todt is absolutely bereft. ...and the lemmings will line up 12-deep for the honor of paying $50k over the $300k sticker. > ...and the lemmings will line up 12-deep for the honor of paying $50k > over the $300k sticker. Must be some rich lemmings around (chill out, Mark - all that bile is bad for your stomach). Personally, I think it looks good (the design is consistent with the current range, which I also like) and I imagine that driving one would be huge fun.I'll just have to keep being nice to the rich folk round here and hope for the best ;-) -Paul > (chill out, Mark - all that bile is bad for your stomach). Somehow we have to work out a plan to keep him in here, but hit the (perhaps mutual?) switch when the baiting starts. Or maybe we're baiting him and getting what we deserve? I don't know. (Iain, and Tiger, you are NOT allowed to interject. It's not good for upcoming surgery anyway.) I'm not going to make a therapy appointment over it, but intelligence in most forms should be welcome here. It's not like we have a moderator. Besides, the phrase "Creamy Goodness" is just too good to throw away. I have a standing invitation to see him the next time I'm in New York, and he likes good wine. How long is that invitation going to stay valid if I keep getting so worked up over him that I tell him to f.ck off? I need to save the Hyperanger button for newbie trolls and slammers. Those are the 'tards I work out for anyway. -Maybe I should have just kept all this as a thought, but I have this new software called Thought Spewer, and it hurls anything in my head onto the screen! I don't even have to type. The Secret Service doesn't like me having it, but f.ck them anyway.- SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. > -Maybe I should have just kept all this as a thought, but I have this > new software called Thought Spewer, and it hurls anything in my head > onto the screen! I don't even have to type. The Secret Service > doesn't like me having it, but f.ck them anyway.- And that's why we love you. ...but not in a gay way. Obviously. -Paul >> ...and the lemmings will line up 12-deep for the honor of paying $50k >> over the $300k sticker. > >Must be some rich lemmings around There's one bequeathed every minute. >(chill out, Mark - all that bile is bad for your stomach). I really do wish people who know diddly about both my motivations and psychiatry would restrain themselves from pretending they know anything about either. >Personally, I think it looks good (the design is >consistent with the current range, which I also like) The Ferrari Zeta Zero-Sei. ...A bloody Z06 in a Milanese suit. >and I imagine >that driving one would be huge fun.I'll just have to keep being nice to >the rich folk round here and hope for the best ;-) Great... Tasteless rich people, just what I'd been avoiding lo these many months. "Creamy Goodness" <News4@Southpark.com> wrote in message > >(chill out, Mark - all that bile is bad for your stomach). > > I really do wish people who know diddly about both my motivations and > psychiatry would restrain themselves from pretending they know > anything about either. Yeah, c'mon, bile is made in the liver! > >and I imagine > >that driving one would be huge fun.I'll just have to keep being nice to > >the rich folk round here and hope for the best ;-) > > Great... Tasteless rich people, just what I'd been avoiding lo these > many months. What is the most modern Ferrari you actually find attractive Mark? Seriously, I'm curious. I don't have a problem with the classics, but are there any recent designs you like or do you find them all derivative of other designs and lacking in that artistic je ne sais quoi that makes an automobile a thing of beauty? Perhaps there are design elements you like, but you find the vehicles lacking as a whole..? -Matt- "...?" >"Creamy Goodness" <News4@Southpark.com> wrote in message >> >and I imagine [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >What is the most modern Ferrari you actually find attractive Mark? 360. Which I had reservations about when released but which has aged very well indeed. Too big though. >Seriously, I'm curious. I don't have a problem with the classics, but >are there any recent designs you like or do you find them all derivative >of other designs and lacking in that artistic je ne sais quoi that makes >an automobile a thing of beauty? The 599 is this generations TR/F512: A complete dog's breakfast, and this a vulgar Corvette knock-off to boot. >Perhaps there are design elements you like, but you find the vehicles >lacking as a whole..? I don't care for the Ingrid scallops of the 612, nor its outsized size and weight and pedal car looking dash, but as a whole it is a very handsome car, one again which I didn't immediately take to. It's just too damned big, I mistook the first I saw on the road for a goddamned POS Bentley GT. > >What is the most modern Ferrari you actually find attractive Mark? > > 360. Which I had reservations about when released but which has aged > very well indeed. Too big though. Everything's too damn big nowadays. My '84 Jetta GLi (shutup) was 2100lbs. The new one is almost 3400lbs. That's what my Z28 weighed, FFS. A new Eclipse (puke) is over 3500lbs! An Eclipse! > >Perhaps there are design elements you like, but you find the vehicles > >lacking as a whole..? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > too damned big, I mistook the first I saw on the road for a goddamned > POS Bentley GT. The 612 grew on me as well. I thought it looked like a bar of soap with Enzo taillights when it first came out, but now I could imagine owning one. Not my first choice, mind you, but worthy of consideration. It amazes me to see cars that initially I assume are small sporting a wheelbase in excess of 112" and a weight exceeding 3500lbs! Is anything small and lightweight in the sporting classes aside from the damned Toyota-powered Elise nowadays?! I'd love to see a 2400lb 300hp sportscar nowadays in lieu of all the 400hp 3600lb cars we're being force-fed. My 2 cents... -Matt- "Yep, touched a nerve." >> >What is the most modern Ferrari you actually find attractive Mark? >> >> 360. Which I had reservations about when released but which has aged >> very well indeed. Too big though. I should have mentioned I love the 550/575, even more so now that the Zeta Zero-Sei has broken cover. Hated the scoop, too Camaro, now it seems dignified by comparison. >Everything's too damn big nowadays. My '84 Jetta GLi (shutup) >was 2100lbs. The new one is almost 3400lbs. That's what my Z28 >weighed, FFS. A new Eclipse (puke) is over 3500lbs! An Eclipse! You are preaching to the choir, my first car was a 1602. >> >Perhaps there are design elements you like, but you find the vehicles >> >lacking as a whole..? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Not my first choice, mind you, but worthy of consideration. I'm afraid the dash is a deal breaker with me, but the exterior is subtly seductive. >It amazes me to see cars that initially I assume are small sporting a >wheelbase in excess of 112" and a weight exceeding 3500lbs! Is anything small and >lightweight in the sporting classes aside from the damned Toyota-powered >Elise nowadays?! I'd love to see a 2400lb 300hp sportscar nowadays in lieu of all >the 400hp 3600lb cars we're being force-fed. Didn't the MX-5 hold the line on ridiculous porcinity? The Acura RSX must be pushing 3000, a BMW 3 is near 4000. Ferrari really jumped the shark back with the Daytona, but you have to love those. "Creamy Goodness" <News4@Southpark.com> wrote in > I really do wish people who know diddly about both my motivations and > psychiatry would restrain themselves from pretending they know > anything about either. Whether I know anything about your 'motivations and psychiatry' is irrelevant. What I do know is that your formulaic postings are so monodimensional that your identity is always quickly recognised (despite your ever changing nom de plume). You might think about the implications of that. > Great... Tasteless rich people, just what I'd been avoiding lo these > many months. I think the rich can have great taste. I just couldn't eat a whole one. -Paul >"Creamy Goodness" <News4@Southpark.com> wrote in > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >your ever changing nom de plume). You might think about the implications >of that. I am fully aware that reflecting the glory of the self-chosen ones is preferred behavior here. I am also aware that my refusal to be deferential to possessions makes me unpopular with some: It's a big world, deal with it. >> Great... Tasteless rich people, just what I'd been avoiding lo these >> many months. > >I think the rich can have great taste. I just couldn't eat a whole one. "Eat the Rich", indeed. > I am fully aware that reflecting the glory of the self-chosen ones is > preferred behavior here. I am also aware that my refusal to be > deferential to possessions makes me unpopular with some: It's a big > world, deal with it. Karma police, arrest this man, he talks in maths He buzzes like a fridge, he's like a detuned radio Karma police, arrest this girl, her hitler hairdo, is making me feel ill And we have crashed her party This is what you get, this is what you get This is what you get, when you mess with us Karma police, I've given all I can, it's not enough I've given all I can, but we're still on the payroll This is what you get, this is what you get This is what you get, when you mess with us And for a minute there, I lost myself, I lost myself And for a minute there, I lost myself, I lost myself For a minute there, I lost myself, I lost myself > > I am fully aware that reflecting the glory of the self-chosen ones is > > preferred behavior here. I am also aware that my refusal to be [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > For a minute there, I lost myself, I lost myself Radiohead? Huh? -Matt- :::who digs the car in the video::: "matt borland" <mborland@columbus.rr.com> wrote > Radiohead? Yep. > Huh? Dunno. Was listening to it at the time. Seemed appropriate. (sigh) -Paul > "matt borland" <mborland@columbus.rr.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Dunno. Was listening to it at the time. Seemed appropriate. I felt it, just was surprised by it. Now it's stuck in my head again, thank you very much. -Matt- "..." > It's a bald, vulgar, Z06 knock-off. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ...and the lemmings will line up 12-deep for the honor of paying $50k > over the $300k sticker. Hi Mark! To be honest, at this time I fully agree with you about the car. And about the lemmings, but without fat wealthy lemmings most countries' economies would be in the tank, and we'd all be speaking Chinese. SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. >> It's a bald, vulgar, Z06 knock-off. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >car. And about the lemmings, but without fat wealthy lemmings most >countries' economies would be in the tank, and we'd all be speaking Chinese. Being rich does not necessarily mean one has to be tasteless, foolish, vulgar and insecure. The Zeta Zero-Sei is a styling abomination the equal of the TR/F512 and will be quite popular with the same sort of sheep-like customer. "A Ferrari owner is not necessarily a Ferrari driver". - Enzo Ferrari The Zeta Zero-Sei is a styling abomination the equal of the TR/F512 and will be quite popular with the same sort of sheep-like customer The 512/Testarossa was not desginged for the EU crowd. That's why you don't understand it. You have to remember son, America has 98% of the worlds wealth. The 512/TR series was meant to be a boisterous, large car. Something a European could never understand. It can be rough for you, I understand. We Americans have simply eveolved both fiscally and intellectually to the point that the delta between the rest of mankind is becoming a management nighmare. We created the Euro for you in an attempt to wean you off of the dollar. But it still an early experiment that you "little people" are not doing too well with. Please evolve Sidney. A little Flouride in your drinking water would be a start... >America has 98% of the worlds wealth. I thought that was just Califormia. >The 512/TR series was meant to be a boisterous, large > car. Something a European could never understand. So Italy isn't European? well, you live and learn... > It can be rough for you, I understand. We Americans have simply > eveolved both fiscally and intellectually to the point that the delta > between the rest of mankind is becoming a management nighmare. Yes, it must be tough - I guess that's how Iraq turned out how it is, huh? just too 'eveolved' to deal with it, I guess. > We > created the Euro for you in an attempt to wean you off of the dollar. Thanks. Please send more. > But it still an early experiment that you "little people" are not > doing > too well with. Well, thanks for your patience while we try. BTW are 'little people' those with BMI this side of 'morbidly obese'? > Please evolve Sidney. A little Flouride in your drinking water would > be a start... A little bromide in yours would help the gene pool. -Paul >> It can be rough for you, I understand. We Americans have simply >> eveolved both fiscally and intellectually to the point that the delta >> between the rest of mankind is becoming a management nighmare. > >Yes, it must be tough - I guess that's how Iraq turned out how it is, >huh? just too 'eveolved' to deal with it, I guess. This is, no doubt, the same ignorant, micro-phallic Viper owner who called me "eneducated" some time ago? Damn, I didn't know my mom was here! >>America has 98% of the worlds wealth. > > I thought that was just Califormia. Indeed. Come and visit the land of plenty! >>The 512/TR series was meant to be a boisterous, large >>car. Something a European could never understand. > > So Italy isn't European? well, you live and learn... They do make noises about dropping the Euro every other week, perhaps they'll drop their "European-ness" as well. >>It can be rough for you, I understand. We Americans have simply >>eveolved both fiscally and intellectually to the point that the delta >>between the rest of mankind is becoming a management nighmare. I'm so glad I'm a Kalifornian.... > Yes, it must be tough - I guess that's how Iraq turned out how it is, > huh? just too 'eveolved' to deal with it, I guess. Indeed, it is the cradle of civilization after all... >>We created the Euro for you in an attempt to wean you off of the dollar. > > Thanks. Please send more. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm buying all the Euros I can lay my hands on, at the current rate the greenback will be 1 to 1 with the peso before long. >>But it still an early experiment that you "little people" are not >>doing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > BTW are 'little people' those with BMI this side of 'morbidly obese'? Hey, stop talking about Wisconsin like that! >>Please evolve Sidney. A little Flouride in your drinking water would >>be a start... > > A little bromide in yours would help the gene pool. Forget the bromide, just change the filter in that pool... > -Paul "Dance Pool Boy, Dance!" T308 (Who is certain that Paul will not get that reference...) > >>The 512/TR series was meant to be a boisterous, large > >>car. Something a European could never understand. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > They do make noises about dropping the Euro every other week, perhaps > they'll drop their "European-ness" as well. EU vs Italy: The Truth http://www.infonegocio.com/xeron/bruno/italy.html Funny as hell too. -Matt- "..." > "Dance Pool Boy, Dance!" > > T308 > (Who is certain that Paul will not get that reference...) Even Google is not my friend on this one. -Paul > > "Dance Pool Boy, Dance!" > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -Paul I got nothin'. I can hear it being spoken, but I have no idea if it's actually from something I've seen or if I'm just imagining it. -Matt- "..." matt borland wrote: >>>"Dance Pool Boy, Dance!" >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -Matt- "..." Early Mad TV. "Cabana Chat" with Dixie Wetsworth and her side kick, the "Pool Boy" ("He's got nothing upstairs, but what a lobby!"). Was this show ever on in the UK? T308 (Who still loves the "Ragin' Rudolph" claymation from the first season, a true Christmas Classic..) "Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek)" <liverpoolfc@anfield.com> wrote in message > Early Mad TV. "Cabana Chat" with Dixie Wetsworth and her side kick, the > "Pool Boy" ("He's got nothing upstairs, but what a lobby!"). Was this > show ever on in the UK? Wow, a sketch comedy reference that I missed? I'm so ashamed. > T308 > (Who still loves the "Ragin' Rudolph" claymation from the first season, > a true Christmas Classic..) I liked that one too. When Mad TV was good it was very good, but when it was bad it was unwatchable. Strangely enough it wasn't like SNL where the cast changes sometimes steered the show toward good or bad, the writing on Mad TV was either great or horrendous, often on the same episode! -Matt- :::humming the Ballad of Honeydipper Dan::: >>The Zeta Zero-Sei is a styling abomination the equal of the TR/F512 >>and will be quite popular with the same sort of sheep-like customer > >The 512/Testarossa was not desginged for the EU crowd. That's why you >don't understand it. I understand it very well: It's cheap, tawdry and vulgar. >You have to remember son, America has 98% of the >worlds wealth. The 512/TR series was meant to be a boisterous, large [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >between the rest of mankind is becoming a management nighmare. We >created the Euro for you in an attempt to wean you off of the dollar. Are you congenitally stupid, or do you choose to be obtuse? >But it still an early experiment that you "little people" are not doing >too well with. > >Please evolve Sidney. A little Flouride in your drinking water would >be a start... ...Ignorant, no doubt Viper owning, putz. >>>The Zeta Zero-Sei is a styling abomination the equal of the TR/F512 >>>and will be quite popular with the same sort of sheep-like customer [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > ...Ignorant, no doubt Viper owning, putz. NOW we've got some sh.t going on!! Pass the popcorn. SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. >>>>The Zeta Zero-Sei is a styling abomination the equal of the TR/F512 >>>>and will be quite popular with the same sort of sheep-like customer [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> >NOW we've got some sh.t going on!! Pass the popcorn. Same old sh.t, Mike. I remember this ignorant buffoon's line about "giving" the Euros the Euro from way back when. The f.cking moron still thinks NY is in Europe, but Italia is not. And he called *me* "eneducated"... I thought I'd give this place a New Year's try, but it's still as ignorant and intolerant and Onanistic as I remember. > I thought I'd give this place a New Year's try, but it's still as > ignorant and intolerant and Onanistic as I remember. Well, as long as I'm not on the MJF verbal death list under the heading "intolerant" (hey, I did apologize, I almost always apologize), I can understand your growing unwillingness to spar with anybody to whom you feel you could overpower without breaking a sweat. I feel more and more like my destiny here is more Miller or Mahre than Fuhrer. Ferrari knowledge is always good here, but I have realized that most of us here like to bullshit about miscellany anyway; overt antagonism only brings awkward silences and large gaps between post activity. Maybe there should be a group called alt.autos.ferrari.serious - and please nobody pipe up with the Ferrarichat stuff again. I canceled their newsletter - every time I check out their "featured thread" I realize there are more clownfaced yodelers on that web site than have ever set foot here. (Except for the Breadvan thread - that Count guy really knows how to spin a yarn.) Creamy, I can't imagine you're not lending your mind's vastness to many, many other places on the Internet; I doubt if you'll miss our little dive bar. And I'll always know if you're here. I have the sixth sense. SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. I realize there are more > clownfaced yodelers on that web site than have ever set foot here. > > (Except for the Breadvan thread - that Count guy really knows how to > spin a yarn.) Go visit again for the PF Coupe thread, it's worth the trip. > Creamy, I can't imagine you're not lending your mind's vastness to many, > many other places on the Internet; I doubt if you'll miss our little > dive bar. And I'll always know if you're here. I have the sixth sense. T308 > I realize there are more > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Go visit again for the PF Coupe thread, it's worth the trip. Can you link me? I'm too lazy to search through threads. SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. >> I realize there are more >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Can you link me? I'm too lazy to search through threads. http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86199 T308 > http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86199 > > T308 Mucho grazie - that car doesn't really do a whole lot for me, but it's in great shape. I can't seem to be able to see attachments on FC, even though I'm registered, and it's not important enough for me to find out why, so I'm glad they had a link to Mike's. I can't really see Ferrari prices dropping, ever again. There are just too many (and more and more) people pulling down the big cash now who want one and are willing to spend it to get one. The days of "the deal" are gone permanently. Even those who look for barn finds, etc. are pocket-loaded and would probably fall dead if the price was even 20K under what they were ready to spend. Sometimes it's not the object, it's the spending that gets the woody these days. Greed runs the earth. At least they're keeping them in good shape and exhibit them enough so that the lowlies can see them. SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. >> http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86199 >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I can't really see Ferrari prices dropping, ever again. I don't know. I think that when the dollar flushes, you'll see them move down, perhaps not in USD terms but GBP/Euro value. Right now it's less about the money and more about too few sellers at any price. The FML is bereft of the early stuff and flooded with the 550/575/360s. There are just > too many (and more and more) people pulling down the big cash now who > want one and are willing to spend it to get one. The days of "the deal" > are gone permanently. Perhaps, but I believe I got one on the GTE this summer. There are still a few people out there that don't stay close enough to the market. Tom still finds cars at a value, certainly not as he once did, but he still reels in a few gems. Even those who look for barn finds, etc. are > pocket-loaded and would probably fall dead if the price was even 20K > under what they were ready to spend. Sometimes it's not the object, > it's the spending that gets the woody these days. Greed runs the earth. Correct, just watch the Barret-Jackson greed fest. "I want to buy a car just so my friends can see me on TV!" > At least they're keeping them in good shape and exhibit them enough so > that the lowlies can see them. Indeed. Wish I still had the shop! T308 > Correct, just watch the Barret-Jackson greed fest. "I want to buy a car > just so my friends can see me on TV!" Almost a couple million dollars for the Howard Hughes Germ Car? Way over a hundred grand for 60s/70s muscle cars? These people give even overt greed a bad name. I always note the biggest players on B-J are usually the fattest sides of pork in the house. Though I wonder who that guy from Colorado is, he's usually wearing Ferrari red, youngish-looking, owns a car museum? Could it be a McCaw? I know they're really into cars. Anyway, if I had the money the last place I'd want to buy my awesome cars is a concrete barn with some sweaty, shrill chick in a very ill-fitting suit screaming in my ear while looking at her husband, a crowd of peanut-breath wannabes and nouveau riche posers pushing on me, and another guy following me around with a Popeil Automatic Wealth Authenticator on wheels. But Mr. Barrett always looks cozy smiley, sporting those contact lenses with "8%" painted on them. It's got to be a better racket than Sokolove's got chasing ambulances ("Have you, a friend, family member, or acquaintance, or anybody you might have dragged in from the street recently, been diagnosed with or know how to spell mesothelioma? Please call the offices of James Sokolove now.") SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. > Though I wonder who that guy from Colorado is, he's usually wearing Ferrari red, > youngish-looking, owns a car museum? Could it be a McCaw? I know > they're really into cars. > But Mr. Barrett I meant Craig Jackson, not "Mr. Barrett". And, since as soon as I finished that post "Behind The Scenes at Barrett-Jackson" came on, I can certify that the guy's name is Alan Lewenthal. Anybody got any stories about any of these guys? (Lewenthal, Morris Ashrazi or whatever it is, Richard Berry, Mike Leith, Allan Jones, etc.) There's got to be some fascinating dirt out there .... spill it! SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. >> Correct, just watch the Barret-Jackson greed fest. "I want to buy a car >> just so my friends can see me on TV!" > >Anyway, if I had the money the last place I'd want to buy my awesome >cars is a concrete barn with some sweaty, shrill chick Speaking of backstories, what's with that little whore? "C'mon Big Daddy, gimme anotha five gran', I needs anotha five gran', and then you can have everythin' you wants"... >in a very >ill-fitting suit screaming in my ear while looking at her husband, a >crowd of peanut-breath wannabes and nouveau riche posers pushing on me, >and another guy following me around with a Popeil Automatic Wealth >Authenticator on wheels. A triumph of money, jealousy and bald envy over taste, decorum and common sense unequaled on earth since the success of the French Revolution. I just saw a bit on tv of a rare map auction, it sounded like it was held in an open library. > Speaking of backstories, what's with that little whore? She's actually the main auctioneer's wife, that's why I mentioned her "pumping" the mark while looking at her husband. Though I wouldn't necessarily think of her as a whore in the classic sense, the term fits for what she's doing. But I don't think most of the seasoned fat cats that frequent B-J are influenced all that much by the fluffers, they might act like it but I don't think so. They know how much of their pie they're going to give up and rarely do they go over. JMO. SignatureIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. > I thought I'd give this place a New Year's try, but it's still as > ignorant and intolerant and Onanistic as I remember. Onanistic? Naw, we finish our silly conversations and return to the meatier discussions of the pros and cons of all things Enzo. Jim "Creamy Goodness" <News4@Southpark.com> wrote in message > I thought I'd give this place a New Year's try, but it's still as > ignorant and intolerant and Onanistic as I remember. I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I won't tolerate comments like this so I'm pulling out of here earlier than usual tonight. :-) -Matt- "..." >"Creamy Goodness" <News4@Southpark.com> wrote in message >> I thought I'd give this place a New Year's try, but it's still as [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >:-) ;-) ...right back at you! > Please evolve Sidney. A little Flouride in your drinking water would > be a start... Do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream, Children's ice cream!...You know when fluoridation began?...1946. 1946! How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works! T308 (P.O.E.......) > It's a bald, vulgar, Z06 knock-off. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ferrari under Todt is absolutely bereft. I have to say I'm really not sure about it either - I think judgement is best reserved till we see it in the flesh > ...and the lemmings will line up 12-deep for the honor of paying $50k > over the $300k sticker. Maybe a few - but then I think a few of said Lemmings have had their fingers more than a tad burned on the 612. If Ferrari really go for broke on the price maybe they won't sell too many at all I. >> It's a bald, vulgar, Z06 knock-off. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >I have to say I'm really not sure about it either - I think judgement is >best reserved till we see it in the flesh Flying bloody buttresses?! SF shields on a football pitch? Corvette fender lines? Corvette rear window treatment? Clumsy Corvette hood bulge? Cartoonish fender vents? Afterthought tack-on rear brake ducts? Leftover Strato's taillights? No thanks, I have no need to wait: It's vulgar, tasteless, derivative and abominable. >> ...and the lemmings will line up 12-deep for the honor of paying $50k >> over the $300k sticker. > >Maybe a few - but then I think a few of said Lemmings have had their fingers >more than a tad burned on the 612. If Ferrari really go for broke on the >price maybe they won't sell too many at all The 612's only styling fault might be its reserve, clearly they've overcompensated with the Zeta Zero-Sei. I know the truth hurts. But without the American market, Ferrari would have been bankrupt many moons ago. And yes, I still have the Viper. And with the Roe supercharger (hell, without probably) it smokes the 360 and Diablo in my area. I'm not real bent on top speed, but Viper smashes the competition...truck motor or not. And to top it off I do own a Testarossa and am so glad for Ferrari to make an American spec car. It is a source of pride that the rest of the world doesn't "get it". Because they weren't supposed to. therefore the car was done right. And Yes, I do like to be obtuse. You guys can still connect the damn dot's, can't you? Hate America if you want. But don't think for 1 second any of us even care. >I know the truth hurts. But without the American market, Ferrari would >have been bankrupt many moons ago. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Hate America if you want. But don't think for 1 second any of us even >care. ... obtuse (òb-t¡s´, -ty¡s´, eb-) adjective 1. Lacking quickness of perception or intellect. See synonyms at stupid. > obtuse (òb-t¡s´, -ty¡s´, eb-) adjective > 1. Lacking quickness of perception or intellect. See synonyms at > stupid. Try 1 a : not pointed or acute : BLUNT, or INSENSITIVE. When performed on purpose, it's far from stupid. >> obtuse (òb-t¡s´, -ty¡s´, eb-) adjective >> 1. Lacking quickness of perception or intellect. See synonyms at >> stupid. > >Try 1 a : not pointed or acute : BLUNT, or INSENSITIVE. When performed >on purpose, it's far from stupid. Yeah... That's just dumb. > I know the truth hurts. You mean the truth that the guy you're calling a European is an American..? You do realize how stupid that makes you look, right? Good luck with that G.E.D... -Matt- "..." |
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