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Car Forum / Ferrari Cars / July 2006

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Matt Borland - 02 Jul 2006 18:14 GMT
...a 2006 Porsche Cayman S...

My employer ordered one and it had just came in. My drive was pretty
short, but telling.

The car is very solid, and responsive. The Sport Chrono and Bilsteins
make for super-tight handling, without being nervous on bad pavement.
The engine has a nice cammy rush from 4k on up, and the 6 speed has
nice close ratios. I didn't think "Boxster coupe" once the entire time
I drove it. It reminded me of the 993 I drove, except smoother, less
raw. The 993 was twitchy and the engine barked and snarled, with the
car just lunging and chomping at the bit to be hammered on. The Cayman
S encouraged smoothness and the engine note was more refined. I guess I
liked the 993 better, but there is a good argument either way. The
brakes were outstanding. The car has several neat features too.

The best part? My employer plans on using this as our travelling car,
replacing his biturbo S4. That means I'll be driving this car once or
twice a week...

I've already planted the seed that he needs a new 911 Turbo next...

He is definitely a Porsche guy, so the Ferrari argument is pointless
with him... He likes them, but has no urge to own one.

-Matt- "If only he had wanted a 355 instead..."
Michael Decker - 03 Jul 2006 06:52 GMT
and the point of posting this in this group was?

> ...a 2006 Porsche Cayman S...
>
> My employer ordered one and it had just came in. My drive was pretty
> short, but telling.
Paul Duffin - 03 Jul 2006 12:54 GMT
> and the point of posting this in this group was?
>
>> ...a 2006 Porsche Cayman S...
>>
>> My employer ordered one and it had just came in. My drive was pretty
>> short, but telling.

Probably to share it with his friends here, all of whom are interested.

This appears to be your first post to this group. Was there a particular
reason why you felt the need to suddenly drop in and start criticizing
the regulars?

-Paul
Thomas Andersson - 03 Jul 2006 14:27 GMT
> This appears to be your first post to this group. Was there a
> particular reason why you felt the need to suddenly drop in and start
> criticizing the regulars?

To be fair, if he's new here he wouldn't know who the regulars are, maybe he
just thought that he was attacking a troll in defense of the group ;)
One time is no time, two times is a habbit... :)

Best Wishes
Thomas *Ferrari 1-2 baby, yeah!*
Tiger Racing - 04 Jul 2006 00:46 GMT
<<and the point of posting this in this group was?>>

To confuse newbies.

C.
Matt Borland - 04 Jul 2006 00:52 GMT
> and the point of posting this in this group was?

Obviously you're new here.

I suspect you'll be disappointed by the lack of actual Ferrari content
on this group. If you have anything useful to share, perhaps even a
Ferrari topic of your own, feel free. This group has a batch of
regulars that regularly post OT content and nobody bitches except newbs
trying to make a name for themselves by playing diss the troll.

Well, Mark bitches too, but we're all used to him by now.

Occasionally someone comes up with a Ferrari topic that we haven't
already covered to death, or someone outside the core group posts a
Ferrari question that may get answered if any of us have any helpful
information to pass on. Currently we have a few 308s, a 328, a 355
Challenge, a TR, and a 250GTE among the regular posters as well as a
few like myself that are still working toward the goal of owning a
Ferrari someday. Some people here love F1, some couldn't care less.
Some hate TRs, some find the V8 cars lacking, and some just worship
anything with the prancing horse on it. Some work on their own
Ferraris, and some restrict their mechanical work to applying tyre
black. *cough* Most everyone here is friendly, and several of us have
met in real life.

Stick around, you'll see.

Or f**k off. I don't care.

-Matt-
Michael Decker - 04 Jul 2006 08:12 GMT
Obviously I'm new here.

You're wrong about the lack of Ferrari content - many of the posts I've read
are interesting, focused on what the newsgroup was set up for, and tell me
more than I knew before about Ferrari. The fact that there's owners giving
personal experiences of their cars is a bonus, and the group is also clearly
a great resource for people wanting to research a particular vehicle.

But more than half the posts recently seem to be about the ugliness and
alleged sexual availability of the wife of a 'regular', along with childish
guffawing regarding the word 'gearstick'.

And some guy writing about a drive he had in his boss's Porsche, justified
on the basis that he's also one of the 'regulars', is simply irrelevant to
this group. He could have emailed the 'regulars' with this exciting tale, or
posted it in alt.autos.porsche, or (better still) compared the vehicle with
driving the equivalent Ferrari.

Not trolling.... apologies if I appeared impolite - I just want to read
about Ferraris.

Have a great day

Michael

>> and the point of posting this in this group was?
>
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>
> -Matt-
Paul Duffin - 04 Jul 2006 09:33 GMT
> Obviously I'm new here.

Not a hanging offence on it's own ;-)

> You're wrong about the lack of Ferrari content - many of the posts
> I've read are interesting, focused on what the newsgroup was set up
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> and alleged sexual availability of the wife of a 'regular', along with
> childish guffawing regarding the word 'gearstick'.

Well, sadly like so many newsgroups we suffer from trolls who try to
stir things up, and spend time stalking us to find a few personal
details in order to try to be offensive. Generally we ignore them,
sometimes one or two respond, and sometimes when the respondent is
Psycho Mike (a prose warrior who's lexicon of abuse is a wonder to
behold) then 'cussing' becomes an 'extreme sport'.

> And some guy writing about a drive he had in his boss's Porsche,
> justified on the basis that he's also one of the 'regulars', is simply
> irrelevant to this group. He could have emailed the 'regulars' with
> this exciting tale, or posted it in alt.autos.porsche, or (better
> still) compared the vehicle with driving the equivalent Ferrari.

Yeah, but see, this is an 'alt' group. You could go to ferrarichat.com
and be assured of nothing but on-topic and highly detailed posts, but
this is more like a themed bar, you come in with an eye on the dancing
donkey over the door, but you can talk about pretty much anything.

> Not trolling.... apologies if I appeared impolite - I just want to
> read about Ferraris.

Ok. So mine is due for a service and I'm skint....  ...but cam belts are
cam belts and they need doing. Last year (having done a paltry 1000
miles)  I survived with just an oil change, carried out by general nice
person and 328GTS owner, Iain Miller (he who suffered sniping about his
beautiful wife from the aforementioned troll - probably because the
aforentionned troll will never have a beautiful wife) but this year I'm
hoping to get back to my more usual habit of touring in mainland Europe
with the car (an '84 308 GTS Quattrovalvole, with very fine black tyres
[go f.ck your hat, Matt]) so a proper service is in order if we are to
enjoy the Alps without the fear of anything going bang...

So. Who are you? I see you're probably a Brit. The Brits here are few,
mostly live in the south, and mostly are or have been Ferrari owners.

> Have a great day

And you.

-Paul
Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 05 Jul 2006 00:13 GMT
> Ok. So mine is due for a service and I'm skint....

Does that mean you aren't going to stand me to a bottle or ten of
Chateau Villiers Street on my next trip???

  ...but cam belts are cam belts and they need doing. Last year (having
done a paltry 1000
> miles)  I survived with just an oil change, carried out by general nice
> person and 328GTS owner, Iain Miller (he who suffered sniping about his
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> [go f.ck your hat, Matt]) so a proper service is in order if we are to
> enjoy the Alps without the fear of anything going bang...

And I trust this journey is going to be documented in the usual way?

T308
(Who missed the MCPD travelogues...)
Paul Duffin - 05 Jul 2006 18:06 GMT
> Does that mean you aren't going to stand me to a bottle or ten of
> Chateau Villiers Street on my next trip???

My dear fellow! of course not. Even in the darkest of financial times,
one can still manage a bottle (or ten) for a gentleman such as yourself.

>>  a proper service is in order if we are to
>> enjoy the Alps without the fear of anything going bang...
>>
> And I trust this journey is going to be documented in the usual way?

Abso-damn-lutely. That particular website is need of a serious overhaul.
A Euro tour will be just the spark needed.

> T308
> (Who missed the MCPD travelogues...)

Too kind, <sniff> too kind...

MCPD
thc test subject - 06 Jul 2006 05:23 GMT
Jesus H. Christ!  Are we back to the mutual love fest marathon?
<Sniff>, indeed!

I just wanted to tell all of you that I have decided to buy a shotgun.
I think it is best for home protection in the wild, wild west that still
exists here in Prescott.  The guy at the Quik Stop liquor store a block
 away from my apartment (they still have Sierra Nevada Celebration
Ale!!) told me he sells 30 crystal meth pipes a week.  Since I have
definitive knowledge of the kind of people who buy such apparati, and
considering that my two cats, my TV, and my a/v equipment are more
precious to me than life itself (well ... only sometimes for the TV and
the a/v stuff), I feel it only necessary that I be able to blow some
motherf..king tweaker's chest out of his a.s if threatened.

And, like I did with my mountain bike, I will be affixing a Scuderia
Ferrari sticker to the stock.  That way the last thing Mr. Tweako will
see as blood rushes out of his mouth will be the prancing horse.

I got a job working the graveyard stocking shift at the local Petsmart.
 That way I get a discount on all the ridiculous things I lavish on
Dahlia and Nickie, like Greenies dental treats (liver flavor).  And the
trip to Guns Guns Guns (also a block away) becomes a reality instead of
a pile of bullshit.

A warning to Mikal is now in effect.  If he wants to get f.cked in the
a.s by a Mossberg 500 Special Purpose - .410 pump loaded with #2 shot
and slugs alternating with no choke - I beg him to follow up on his
gutless insults and board that plane to his final destination.

> Too kind, <sniff> too kind...
Matt Borland - 06 Jul 2006 19:57 GMT
> A warning to Mikal is now in effect.  If he wants to get f.cked in the
> a.s by a Mossberg 500 Special Purpose - .410 pump loaded with #2 shot
> and slugs alternating with no choke - I beg him to follow up on his
> gutless insults and board that plane to his final destination.

You know Winchester makes (made, they went under this year)
triple-aught buck for that little .410... I have a few boxes myself.
They have 5 pellets per round in the 3" shell, and 3 pellets in the
2.5" version.

-Matt- "..."
thc test subject - 07 Jul 2006 02:58 GMT
I will take that under consideration, Tex.

> You know Winchester makes (made, they went under this year)
> triple-aught buck for that little .410... I have a few boxes myself.
> They have 5 pellets per round in the 3" shell, and 3 pellets in the
> 2.5" version.
>
> -Matt- "..."
Tiger Racing - 04 Jul 2006 23:52 GMT
<<Obviously I'm new here.>>

Quite.

<<some guy writing about a drive he had in his boss's Porsche,
justified on the basis that he's also one of the 'regulars', is simply
irrelevant to this group. >>

It's not irrelevant to THIS group. That's what we're trying to tell
you.

So do you currently own or aspire to Ferrari?

C.
Matt Borland - 06 Jul 2006 20:02 GMT
> Obviously I'm new here.

The others have pretty well covered the subject for me. Paul made a
good point in that www.ferrarichat.com is a good source for Ferrari
owner stories and the like. If you think this group is interesting
you'll spend hours sifting through all the threads over there, as they
have more members and are much more active.

No offense taken, I just bristle at the bi-yearly "new guy complaining
about off-topic content" posts, as we have no moderator here and don't
particularly want one.

Have a good one.

-Matt- "..."
Paul Duffin - 11 Jul 2006 10:03 GMT
"Matt Borland" <gp911911@gmail.com> wrote >

> we have no moderator here and don't particularly want one.

O'reilly? (sorry, I meant 'oh really?', but I raised an eyebrow so
violently that cramp set in and now I'm stuck in the exact expression
that a certain Fox presenter has when someone suggests that his argument
lacks credibility. You know the look.).

And I quote:

"A warning to Mikal is now in effect.  If he wants to get f.cked in the
a.s by a Mossberg 500 Special Purpose - .410 pump loaded with #2 shot
and slugs alternating with no choke - I beg him to follow up on his
gutless insults and board that plane to his final destination."

Now *that's* what I call 'moderation'.

-MCPD
Paul Duffin - 04 Jul 2006 09:34 GMT
"Matt Borland" <gp911911@gmail.com> wrote a load of stuff.

Well said, sir!

-Paul
Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 05 Jul 2006 00:07 GMT
snippage

> Currently we have a few 308s, a 328, a 355
> Challenge, a TR, and a 250GTE among the regular posters

Actually we have two GT/Es here.  One Series 2 in my garage and a Series
3 on the way which I have yet to see.

T308
(Who will start adding garages shortly....)
Tiger Racing - 05 Jul 2006 03:03 GMT
<<Actually we have two GT/Es here.  One Series 2 in my garage and a
Series 3 on the way which I have yet to see.>>

And there's a Mondial QV Cab in my garage.

C.
Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 05 Jul 2006 06:09 GMT
> <<Actually we have two GT/Es here.  One Series 2 in my garage and a
> Series 3 on the way which I have yet to see.>>
>
> And there's a Mondial QV Cab in my garage.
>
> C.

And I thought that was just a parts shelf.

T308
Tiger Racing - 05 Jul 2006 21:26 GMT
<<And I thought that was just a parts shelf.>>

No, no, not for years. The Mondial just needs a clutch. The Fastback
has been a parts shelf for some time now, but it will be done by the
end of the year. Has to be. It's going to SEMA.

And, everyone, keep your fingers crossed. I think I've found hand
controls for the Mondial. I may be driving it to Monterey this year
myself!

C.
Matt Borland - 06 Jul 2006 20:07 GMT
> <<And I thought that was just a parts shelf.>>
>
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>
> C.

Wow, I'd forgotten about the "phantom phastback"... I'd love to know
the details on it (engine, trans, chassis, etc.) when it's done...

How cool would it be for you to arrive at the Historics in that
Mondial... I hope your hand control system works out.

-Matt- "..."
Matt Borland - 06 Jul 2006 20:04 GMT
> snippage
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> T308
> (Who will start adding garages shortly....)

Good on ya, man. I take it some progress has been made on the white car
then?

Or did Shaugnessy sell the engine like he threatened to..?

That thread still cracks me up...

-Matt- "..."
Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 07 Jul 2006 00:01 GMT
>>snippage
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Good on ya, man. I take it some progress has been made on the white car
> then?

Yes, Casper ran for the first time last week!  It might even make it
round the block this weekend.

> Or did Shaugnessy sell the engine like he threatened to..?

Nope, but he sold me the new one too!  Quantity will be exchanged for
increased quality as time passes.

> That thread still cracks me up...

and it lead to an article in Thoroughbred & Classic Cars.  "Casper the
GT/E" is now a star!  The new one didn't come from Mexico, but from the
other boarder to the North....

> -Matt- "..."

T308

(Who will someday trade ten GT/Es for an SA...)

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