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Car Forum / Ferrari Cars / August 2006Spurious SF Badges
http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/auto-show-photos.asp?imageId=25951&galleryId=42 ...I guess when you've convinced yourself wealth equals taste anything is justifiable. The side scoop and faux beltline are hideous, just god awful.  Signature"...Luigi follow only the Ferraris." > http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/auto-show-photos.asp?imageId=25951&galleryId=42 > > ...I guess when you've convinced yourself wealth equals taste anything > is justifiable. > > The side scoop and faux beltline are hideous, just god awful. I'd have one. Not sure I could get it into a French hotel undergound car-park... ...but I'd be willing to give it a go. -MCPD (...Just 6 days before the Pyranees and 10 before the Alps :-) >> http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/auto-show-photos.asp?imageId=25951&galleryId=42 >> ...I guess when you've convinced yourself wealth equals taste anything [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I'd have one. Finally, something to relate just how, if brutally, the Enzo really is. It's a dog's breakfast of ego and myopia. Signature"...Luigi follow only the Ferraris." >> http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/auto-show-photos.asp?imageId=25951&galleryId=42 >> ...I guess when you've convinced yourself wealth equals taste anything [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I'd have one. Finally, something to relate just how, if brutally, beautiful the Enzo really is. It's a dog's breakfast of ego and myopia. Signature"...Luigi follow only the Ferraris." I think that car looks fantastic. I've been raving about it ever since I first heard about it. Though you might sniff and say there's no accounting for taste, this is one time I will happily disagree. You might want to go to Pininfarina's web site and see what went into designing and building that car before you dismiss it completely. > http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/auto-show-photos.asp?imageId=25951&galleryId=42 > > ...I guess when you've convinced yourself wealth equals taste anything > is justifiable. > > The side scoop and faux beltline are hideous, just god awful. >> http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/auto-show-photos.asp?imageId=25951&galleryId=42 >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I think that car looks fantastic. I've been raving about it ever since >I first heard about it. Meaning you'd 'staked out an opinion' in the absence of facts. >Though you might sniff and say there's no >accounting for taste, this is one time I will happily disagree. Who has previously described the 333SP nose as graceful or elegant? What's the deal with the beltline? My HVAC guy could do a better job of the intakes and my plumber with the exhausts... Why does it have SF badges? >You >might want to go to Pininfarina's web site and see what went into >designing and building that car before you dismiss it completely. How does the effort that may have put into it mitigate the reality that they got so much of it just bloody wrong? Parts of the thing are inspired, some parts were just tacked on. If that's how PininFarina fritters away $4M they surely won't be doing it again any time soon. Signature"...Luigi follow only the Ferraris." <<Why does it have SF badges?>> Because Enzo is dead. C. He was still alive when the 288 GTO was introduced. A car that he was very proud of and the first road car to sport the shields. "Let's put some proper badges there.", Fioravanti. > <<Why does it have SF badges?>> > > Because Enzo is dead. > > C. >> <<Why does it have SF badges?>> >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >proud of and the first road car to sport the shields. "Let's put some proper >badges there.", Fioravanti. It was supposed to be a racecar. Signature"...Luigi follow only the Ferraris." > Why does it have SF badges? Supposedly the decision to put shields on it went down to the last minute. I don't like them. > How does the effort that may have put into it mitigate the reality > that they got so much of it just bloody wrong? I don't agree, but that's cool. It wasn't your design. Though, as much of a fan as you are of the 330 P3/4, it would be interesting to see a sketch of what you would consider to be an "update" or "homage". Feeling what I do about the 330, part of me felt they should just build the exact same car with updated mechanicals. But this was a private individual's idea, and his money. They designed it according to his desires and his ideas. > Parts of the thing are inspired OK, see? Getting that out of you was justification enough for lighting the burner underneath you, after all. some parts were just tacked on. I don't know ... I'm still wondering about the exhaust and also the educting in the front, but overall I respect it and the work that went into it, and how it looks. > If that's how PininFarina fritters away $4M they surely won't be doing > it again any time soon. It wasn't their money. I mean, I think the 599, which is their design, is not a very good looking car. But I said that about many other Ferrari cars, and then later warmed up to them. The 612 Scaglietti re-do they designed (Kappa?) I think is hideous. And, everybody raves about the Maserati Birdcage concept, and I have to admit watching it drive at Goodwood was pretty chilling, BUT - it's fugly. I think that the car has a nice ody. what type is it ? Ummmm, wow. It's called the Pininfarina P4/5. It's a privately commissioned car built off an Enzo chassis (that has been re-engineered, and the drivetrain has had some work done on it also). The owner has one of the original 330 P3/4s and is an avid fan of that car, and he wanted to design a car that he felt would pay homage to the original P3/4 while utilizing today's ultimate Ferrari mechanicals. The total cost of the project was around $4M, and Ferrari was impressed enough with it to badge it as a Ferrari and provide complete technical/factory/warranty support. Since a lot of weight was shaved off during the design and build processes, along with the use of some different drivetrain pieces and a LOT of carbon fiber, the performance of this car is somewhere north of the McLaren F1. There will be very few cars on the planet, if any, that can "blow this thing away". (I say it that way because I'm sure there are several that could either keep pace or be very close. But as far as putting the P4/5 well into it's rear view mirror, nothing. Maybe a Veyron - but I doubt any Veyron owners will have the balls to break it open like that.) Jimm feels that 240 mph is not unattainable, maybe more than that if he wanted to take that kind of risk. This is where I first heard about it. This particular thread contains something like 18 quintillion posts, but if you feel like browsing through it, maybe start from the LAST page and move down a bit. You could do worse than to hang out at Ferrarichat if you want to learn about Ferraris (please, no wisecracks on coming to THIS place). http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92754 Actually, you could just go to this web site which was put together by fans of the project and friends of the owner, specifically to discuss the project: http://www.ferrarip45.com/ > I think that the car has a nice ody. what type is it ? |
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