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James - 11 Jun 2007 21:30 GMT
I took this photo at the Ferrari Racing Day at Silverstone at the weekend
and can't remember which car it was http://i8.tinypic.com/52n69n8.jpg

Thanks in advance,
James
James - 12 Jun 2007 02:01 GMT
360 Modena.

>I took this photo at the Ferrari Racing Day at Silverstone at the weekend
>and can't remember which car it was http://i8.tinypic.com/52n69n8.jpg
>
> Thanks in advance,
> James
Paul Duffin - 12 Jun 2007 07:28 GMT
> 360 Modena.

You're talking to yourself, there James. First sign of madness, etc.

Nice pic. What camera do you have?

-Paul
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James - 13 Jun 2007 19:30 GMT
>> 360 Modena.
>
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>
> -Paul

Thanks Paul, and to the other James for pointing out what my photo was.

My camera's a bog standard Fujifilm Finepix S3000 Zoom.

Cheers,
James

P.S. Sorry Paul for replying directly to you first time around - I've had a
long day...!
James - 20 Jun 2007 02:59 GMT
Make that the next sign of madness.  The purchase of three Ferraris over the
past 10 years were the first signs...

Actually, I thought it might look a bit odd when I replied to the other
James.

James
(aka, giallo355...which, actually, should be updated to giallo360 now)

>> 360 Modena.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> -Paul
Paul Duffin - 21 Jun 2007 09:08 GMT
> Make that the next sign of madness.  The purchase of three Ferraris over
> the past 10 years were the first signs...

So, daring to bring this group around to its (theoretical, at least)
subject.

Hey James, howabout letting us know what it's like 'moving up' the marque?

Is each car so much better than the last? are there things that you miss
from your previous cars?
which did you/do you enjoy most?

...and kindly send me some pics, I'll put 'em on my site in my forthcoming
'toys' section (yes, for long time groupers, it's coming back!)

-Paul
(308GTS qv for 12 years now... and not sure if my wife will ever let me
change it.)
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Tifosi 308 - 21 Jun 2007 16:27 GMT
 > ...and kindly send me some pics, I'll put 'em on my site in my
forthcoming
> 'toys' section (yes, for long time groupers, it's coming back!)

I'll believe that when I see it...

T308
Paul Duffin - 22 Jun 2007 16:21 GMT
> I'll believe that when I see it...
>
> T308

Up your bum.

Of course you could send me a few pics as well, that would make it even more
likely to happen.

-MCPD
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James - 23 Jun 2007 03:06 GMT
Paul,

Did you get the pics?  If not, I'll try again.

James

>> I'll believe that when I see it...
>>
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>
> -MCPD
Paul Duffin - 23 Jun 2007 08:07 GMT
> Paul,
>
> Did you get the pics?  If not, I'll try again.

Yes thanks! ...and very good they are too.

-Paul
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Paul Duffin - 27 Jun 2007 16:34 GMT
>  > ...and kindly send me some pics, I'll put 'em on my site in my
> forthcoming
>> 'toys' section (yes, for long time groupers, it's coming back!)
>
> I'll believe that when I see it...

Wanna bet?

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James - 29 Jun 2007 00:12 GMT
Don't take the bet.  You'll lose.

Thanx for posting the pics of my toys!

James

>>  > ...and kindly send me some pics, I'll put 'em on my site in my
>> forthcoming
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Wanna bet?
James - 22 Jun 2007 04:31 GMT
Well, my ~10 year adventure with Ferrari's has has some ups & downs.  Here's
a brief history:

The 348 years....
In late '97, I was able to convince my wife that I needed to upgrade from my
'70 Plymouth AAR Cuda to an Italian car.  I came across a white/tan '92
348tb with about ~11K miles for a "reasonable" price.  "Reasonable" is in
quotes as I've learned that one must recalibrate their definition of
"reasonable" when dealing with any aspect (purchase, maintenance, etc.) of a
Ferrari.  All in all it was a decent car over the ~2.5yrs that I owned it.
I put about 7K miles on it, many at the track (TWS - Texas World Speedway).
During this time, I was also "fortunate" enough to pay for tires, several
oil changes, timing belt change, ECU replacement, and, unfortunately, some
bodywork to the front valence.  They say that Ferrari's have low ground
clearance.  I proved that this car, with ~5 inches of ground clearance, was
incapable of clearing an ~6" diameter stone at ~40 mph.  Very unpleasant
sound...

Highlights:  Popped my Ferrari cherry with this car.
Lowlights:  Electrical system "gremlins", unstable at high speeds (>140mph)
& somewhat underpowered.  Also, Ferrari's just shouldn't be painted white...

The 355 years...
In early '00, I came across a yellow/black '95 F355 with ~9.6K miles on the
odometer while getting my 348 serviced at the dealership.  This was a
fantastic example with the carbon fiber racing seats.  I simply had to have
it!  My wife was in a similar disposition regarding having another child.
The deal was made right there in my saleman's office -- I got the car
(traded-in the 348) AND another son out of the deal (that's what I call a
"win - win")!  During the 7yrs that I owned it I put about ~12K miles on the
odometer.  As with the 348, many of these were logged at TWS whilst
chasing-down 360's & such.  I had the pleasure of shelling out $$$ for
numerous oil changes, 2 sets of Pirelli's, timing belts, CV joint boots,
shocks, brakes, etc.  This was not the worst of it, however...

It still pains me to speak of this, but, I'm finding this somewhat
theraputic...

On a fateful Friday afternoon, August 13, 2004, I attempted a U-turn on a
roadway near my house.  For whatever reason, a VW Jetta decided to magically
appear as I was ~halfway thru my U-turn.  The resulting sights & sounds were
the most unpleasant yet.  In retrospect, no one was injured and the car only
suffered cosmetic damage to the front valence, right fender & hood (bonnet)
damage.  Nevertheless, my insurance company & I shelled-out an enormous sum
of $$$ to Ferraro of Houston for repairs.  When it returned to home, after
~6 months, it was better than new!  I must say, if you ever "aerodynamically
alter" your Ferrari, FoH has a first-class repair facility.

Highlights:  Absolutely stunning design.  Gorgeous body-lines that look
quite modern (until it sits next to a 360 or 430).  385 beautiful ponies
with a fantastic 6spd.  Stable up to ~175mph (I seemed to have lost my
"attachments"  after hitting that mark on the speedo...).  Letting my middle
son's cub scout troop climb all over it.
Lowlights:  See paragraph above.  Oh yeah, maintenance costs and feeling
like a "fish in a fish bowl" while driving a fly yellow car.  Sitting in the
passenger's seat at ~140mph at TWS with my 18yr old son at the wheel...

The 360 years...uh, months...
After owning the 355 for ~7yrs, I was beginning to tire of it (the grass is
always greener...) and it would often go weeks without being driven.  Such a
fine automobile should be exercised regularly, so I decided it was time for
it to find a new home.  In Mar'07 I located a meticulously maintained 6-spd
yellow/black '00 360 with ~19K miles.  As with the 355 years ago, a simple
test-drive and hearing that lovely Tubi had me drooling.  After some
haggling with the dealer (it had been on their lot for several months --  
advantage: me), we were able to reach an amenable trade-in for mine &
purchase price for theirs.  In the ~3 months since buying it, I've already
clocked ~2K miles on the odo.  I simply can't avoid driving it with the
windows down to hear it.  Only word of caution - 3rd gear and a
fully-depressed throttle should only be attempted while in a straight line
unless one is wearing Depends!

Highlights:  Absolutely everything about it.
Lowlights:  None yet.

Well, that's my "brief" history with this fabulous marque.  I must say that
I've been quite fortunate to own these wonderful machines over the years.
Hopefully I will be able to do so for many years to come.

Regards,
James (aka, giallo355)

>> Make that the next sign of madness.  The purchase of three Ferraris over
>> the past 10 years were the first signs...
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> (308GTS qv for 12 years now... and not sure if my wife will ever let me
> change it.)
Paul Duffin - 22 Jun 2007 16:38 GMT
> Well, my ~10 year adventure with Ferrari's has has some ups & downs.
> Here's a brief history:

Thanks, James... a few questions.
> The 348 years....
> Lowlights:  Electrical system "gremlins", unstable at high speeds
> (>140mph)

In what way was it unstable? I've had my 308 at an indicated 155mph a few
times and it always feels pretty well planted - of course I'm only going in
a (fairly) straight line.

> & somewhat underpowered.

Compared to?

Also, Ferrari's just shouldn't be painted white...

True!

> The 355 years...

Did you never suffer the exhaust manifold problem? I thought track days
would be likely to acelerate that.

> The 360 years...uh, months...
>  Only word of caution - 3rd gear and a fully-depressed throttle should
> only be attempted while in a straight line unless one is wearing Depends!

Wearing what?

> Highlights:  Absolutely everything about it.

What about it are the main improvements over the 355? particulalrly in terms
of handling - you use it on the track, but I'm wondering whether in street
driving, you would be so far within the envelope of both car's abilities
that you would not be aware of any significant difference, IYSWIM.

-Paul
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Tifosi 308 - 23 Jun 2007 02:40 GMT
> Also, Ferrari's just shouldn't be painted white...

Shhhh!  Don't say that too loud.  Casper the GTE might hear you...

T308
(Whose GTE is Maytag white....)
James - 23 Jun 2007 03:05 GMT
I did say it in lower-case letters, so hopefully it came across as a
whisper...

James

>> Also, Ferrari's just shouldn't be painted white...
>
> Shhhh!  Don't say that too loud.  Casper the GTE might hear you...
>
> T308
> (Whose GTE is Maytag white....)
James - 23 Jun 2007 03:04 GMT
>> Well, my ~10 year adventure with Ferrari's has has some ups & downs.
>> Here's a brief history:
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> times and it always feels pretty well planted - of course I'm only going
> in a (fairly) straight line.

The car felt "planted" up to ~140mph, but tended to "drift" above that.  It
may have just been the pavement on the isolated highway that I was on.  I
rarely exceeded 140mph on the track as the straights weren't long enough
(and there weren't enough ponies under the "hood").

>> & somewhat underpowered.
>
> Compared to?

The "underpowered" comment is as it related to other cars at the track.
355's & 360's would simply leave me in their wakes on the straights at the
track.  That being said, I was even "schooled" by a driving instructor in a
308.  So, it probably had more to do with my (lack of) driving ability at
that time than anything else.  In my defense, it was one of my first times
at the track and I've since gotten a little more experienced.  But my
survival instincts kick-in long before I could ever be considered a
competitive racer.

> Also, Ferrari's just shouldn't be painted white...
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Did you never suffer the exhaust manifold problem? I thought track days
> would be likely to acelerate that.

I did have a cracked header that caused a catalyctic converted to "fry".
Fortunately, this occurred just outside of 7yrs of age (exhaust abatement
systems are only covered for 7yrs / unlimited miles in the US) and the
dealer split the repair costs with me.  The other big issue w/355's:  I
didn't have any issues with the cylinder sleeves as mine was a late '95
(July) model.

>> The 360 years...uh, months...
>>  Only word of caution - 3rd gear and a fully-depressed throttle should
>> only be attempted while in a straight line unless one is wearing Depends!
>
> Wearing what?

Depends (adult diapers - the car tends to scare the sh*t outta you!).

>> Highlights:  Absolutely everything about it.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> abilities that you would not be aware of any significant difference,
> IYSWIM.

You're absolutely correct in that both car's abilities far exceed anything
that can be explored safely on public roads.  I haven't had a chance to
fully "exercise" the 360 yet, in terms of handling or high speeds at the
track (can't wait for the next event!).  That being said, the 360 feels a
bit more sure-footed around twisty roads and seems to beg to be flogged!
That's where the 3rd gear / full throttle / straight line comments come
about.  The wail from the Tubi when pressing the "loud" pedal down induces a
positive-feedback loop thru the driver -- you just want to push it down
more, but it'll scare the hell outta you if you do when your going thru 3rd
gear corners (anywhere from 50-110mph).

One another big adjustment, particularly after first getting the 360, is the
car's size.  It feels like the massive car that it is.  Much, much bigger
than the 355.  Not necessarily in terms of being heavy, just large; wide.
In fact, it's stance is significantly (8"+) wider than my C55 and even my
wife's ML!  My wife has even gone as far as saying that it has J.Lo's butt.
I've since become used to it, but it just doesn't feel like you could
"thread the needle" between large trucks, for instance.

Hope that answered your questions.  Looking forward to hearing from others'
experiences with their cars.

James
(former lurker)

> -Paul
 
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