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Regardless of marque-admiration constraints, you have to love the new Ford GT. I have been salivating over that car for some time now. I would love to have one in full Gulf Racing Team livery. The new web site Ford has trundled together shows one, briefly, in the Intro. Awesome! http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/home.asp?bhcp=1 MC > Regardless of marque-admiration constraints, you have to love the new Ford > GT. I have been salivating over that car for some time now. I would love > to have one in full Gulf Racing Team livery. The new web site Ford has > trundled together shows one, briefly, in the Intro. Awesome! > > http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/home.asp?bhcp=1 Yeah, yeah ;-) Hey buddy, can you send me your phone/email contact details? I'm not sure I have the right ones. MCPD >> Regardless of marque-admiration constraints, you have to love the >> new Ford GT. I have been salivating over that car for some time [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > MCPD This is everything current right now: Mike Costello 15601 Tustin Village Way, No. 47 Tustin, CA 92780 (714) 835-6835 mcwriter@comcast.net mcwriter007@yahoo.com mcwriter@tifozi.net mc@needelman.com That's everywhere you can get ahold of me. Not likely to change again unless I move out of state, something which I am contemplating. It's too expensive to live here, plain and simple. Just as an example, in Arizona I can buy several acres of land, in a house I can buy and own, for a total of $500 *less* per month right now than I'm paying to live in Hell. What a f.cking idiot I am. I can't believe I posted all my personal informatio to the group by mistake. Better batten down the hatches and get a spam filter, I'm in for trouble. f.ck. MC > What a f.cking idiot I am. I can't believe I posted all my personal > informatio to the group by mistake. Better batten down the hatches > and get a spam filter, I'm in for trouble. f.ck. Well, look at it like this, now you have an incentive to move to that plot of land you could afford (and grow all the weed you'd ever need ;) ). BTW, did you try my new webmail? is the mailbox working OK after the serverswitch? Best Wishes Thomas > BTW, did you try my new webmail? is the mailbox working OK after the Weeks ago I sent you (or someone) a nice set of video clips of cats to cheer you up. Did you get that? Paul  SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk >> BTW, did you try my new webmail? is the mailbox working OK after the > > Weeks ago I sent you (or someone) a nice set of video clips of cats to > cheer you up. Did you get that? Nope, never got that :( Best Wishes Thomas > Nope, never got that :( Well, it was REALLY funny. e-mail me your correct address and I'll try again. (Hint: reply to me, NOT the group ;-) MCPD >> Nope, never got that :( > > Well, it was REALLY funny. e-mail me your correct address and I'll try > again. Okiz! > (Hint: reply to me, NOT the group ;-) Now that's just mean ;) Best Wishes Thomas > Well, it was REALLY funny. e-mail me your correct address and I'll try > again. Hmm, just realised I don't ahve your email address, but the one I'm suing to post here should work. Best Wishes Thomas >I can't believe I posted all my personal informatio to the group by mistake Nor can I. f.ck. > I'm in for trouble. f.ck. f.ck! You're just going to have to be nice to everyone from now on. I wouldn't worry too much - just about everyone here is traceable if someone wants to try hard enough (some of us are even in the phone book). Paul SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk > You're just going to have to be nice to everyone from now on. I > wouldn't worry too much - just about everyone here is traceable if > someone wants > to try hard enough (some of us are even in the phone book). The spambots gonna have a fieldday with all his accounts though :/ Best Wishes Thomas >> I can't believe I posted all my personal informatio to the group by >> mistake [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Paul You really like that word, don't you! It's a hell of a lot better than SHAG. MC *f.ck* > > Nor can I. f.ck. > >> I'm in for trouble. f.ck. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > MC > *f.ck* Sure do. f.ck! f.ck! FUCKEDY-FUCKEDY-FUCKEDY-f.ck! (c.nt) f.ck! f.ck! <blush> um... That Enzo is purty, ain't she? <cough> MCPD >What a f.cking idiot I am. I can't believe I posted all my personal >informatio to the group by mistake. Better batten down the hatches and get >a spam filter, I'm in for trouble. f.ck. Yes, Mike: Just about the dumbest thing I've seen in eight years on Usenet... You did issue a cancel command immediately, didn't you? > Yes, Mike: Just about the dumbest thing I've seen in eight years on > Usenet... Naah, we all slip sometimes, usually it is you reply to sender instead of to the group though... just an unlucky coincident. Best Wishes Thomas > Yes, Mike: Just about the dumbest thing I've seen in eight years on > Usenet... > > You did issue a cancel command immediately, didn't you? <sigh> In another sign of my oncoming age and ignorance, I don't know how to. I'll just have to belly up to the bar on this one. Time to load up 'Ol Bessie the 12 gauge and live in fear like the rest of us! Maybe you can do it for me? Can you surgically excise that post from the Internet for me? I'll pay ya. But I don't even have the original any more. And it's probably too late anyway. Dem bots, dey busy. MC > <sigh> In another sign of my oncoming age and ignorance, Or just maybe the use of the wrong software... > I don't know how to. I'll just have to belly up to the bar on this > one. Time to load up 'Ol Bessie the 12 gauge and live in fear like > the rest of us! The American way? > Maybe you can do it for me? Can you surgically excise that post from > the Internet for me? I'll pay ya. But I don't even have the > original any more. And it's probably too late anyway. Dem bots, dey > busy. Don't think you can in Outlook Express, but in REAl newsreaders you should be able to send a cancel message for any of your own messages and, in theory, it would be dropped from all newsservers. Best Wishes Thomas >> You did issue a cancel command immediately, didn't you? ><sigh> In another sign of my oncoming age and ignorance, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Internet for me? I'll pay ya. But I don't even have the original any more. >And it's probably too late anyway. Dem bots, dey busy. ...Never to late. On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 05:09:39 -0800, in rec.autos.sport.f1 Bud Hufstetler <me@privacy.net> wrote: >To remove a post from Google's archives: >http://www.google.com/googlegroups/help.html#9 [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >Of course, this won't help at all if anyone has quoted your message >when they've replied to it. If you had been using Agent for a newsreader, and not participating in Dill Gates' evil polt to rule the world via spam and viruses, it woudl be as simple as [POST], [CANCEUL USENET MESSAGE]... Good luck! >> You did issue a cancel command immediately, didn't you? ><sigh> In another sign of my oncoming age and ignorance, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Internet for me? I'll pay ya. But I don't even have the original any more. >And it's probably too late anyway. Dem bots, dey busy. ...Never too late. On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 05:09:39 -0800, in rec.autos.sport.f1 Bud Hufstetler <me@privacy.net> wrote: >To remove a post from Google's archives: >http://www.google.com/googlegroups/help.html#9 [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >Of course, this won't help at all if anyone has quoted your message >when they've replied to it. If you had been using Agent for a newsreader, and not participating in Dill Gates' evil plot to rule the world via spam and viruses, it would be as simple as [POST], [CANCEUL USENET MESSAGE]... Good luck! >> To remove a post from Google's archives: Done. And so far, no flood of spam anywhere. Let's hope I've seen the last of that. MC <Hits head against wall. Again.> > What a f.cking idiot I am. I can't believe I posted all my personal > informatio to the group by mistake. Better batten down the hatches and > get a spam filter, I'm in for trouble. f.ck. Ouch. Don't beat yourself up about it though. See if something like SpamAssassin (http://www.spamassassin.org) can be setup to work on whatever system you're running, it'll be a start at least. HTH Ciao Zak -- ======================================================================== http://www.carfolio.com/ Searchable database of 10 000+ car specs Auctioning motoring-related items at eBay? http://www.carfolio.com/ebay/ ======================================================================== > This is everything current right now: > > Mike Costello <personal info snipped> Boy, that place is gonna be so trollinfested... ;) > That's everywhere you can get ahold of me. Not likely to change again > unless I move out of state, something which I am contemplating. It's > too expensive to live here, plain and simple. Just as an example, in > Arizona I can buy several acres of land, in a house I can buy and > own, for a total of $500 *less* per month right now than I'm paying > to live in Hell. Move man, save money, feel better.. you will still be as close to us as ever, just make sure to move to a place with a proper broadband connection ;) Best Wishes Thomas > Regardless of marque-admiration constraints, you have to love the new Ford > GT. I have been salivating over that car for some time now. I would love [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > MC Bah, the only car that looks right to me in Gulf colors is a 917. I know, I know, it's a Porker... It did crack me up though, reading about the first concept drawings for the GT and how they were dubbed "the V6 version" before the designers were sent back to the drawing board to redraw the car with some attitude. -Matt- "Right-ho, I'm back from a trip to Nashville." > Regardless of marque-admiration constraints, you have to love the new Ford > GT. I have been salivating over that car for some time now. I would love [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > MC The suction cap seats are an interesting invention... >> Regardless of marque-admiration constraints, you have to love the >> new Ford GT. I have been salivating over that car for some time [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> > The suction cap seats are an interesting invention... Yeah, they don't look very comfortable, do they? Maybe they're *massage* seats. >Regardless of marque-admiration constraints, you have to love the new Ford >GT. I do not, and for integrity constraints. >I have been salivating over that car for some time now. I would love >to have one in full Gulf Racing Team livery. The new web site Ford has >trundled together shows one, briefly, in the Intro. Awesome! > >http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/home.asp?bhcp=1 Eh... So Ford's joined Porsche in confessing their best and only good idea is forty years old... (The Ford GT 40 was really a rebadged Lola.) ...What's next, a "BOSS" 302 evocative Mustang? "Saint Augustine of Canterbury" <St.Augustine@Canterbury.com> wrote in message > Eh... > > So Ford's joined Porsche in confessing their best and only good idea > is forty years old... > ...What's next, a "BOSS" 302 evocative Mustang? They're waaaay ahead of you... They have a new "Mach 1" complete with shaker scoop. Last year they had a "Bullitt" edition. The replica boss stripes have been around for years. All that's missing is a new "King Cobra" or "Cobra II" for those that missed the Mustang II versions... -Matt- "..." >"Saint Augustine of Canterbury" <St.Augustine@Canterbury.com> wrote in >message [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >They have a new "Mach 1" complete with shaker scoop. '...They just build faster idiots.' >> Regardless of marque-admiration constraints, you have to love the >> new Ford GT. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > ...What's next, a "BOSS" 302 evocative Mustang? Well, er ... actually ... they have put out a "Boss" Mustang this year ... The "re-badged Lola" statement is not entirely true, btw. Lolas pretty much used Chevy running gear, as I recall. The design might have been Lola-esque, even Lola-exact, but Ford was all over the mechanicals. But, as I learned through my personal Enzo debacle, a mind can always change, an opinion can always waver. Freedom of opinion being the blessing that it is, you are welcome to yours. MC is it spring? should I feel this good? wtf? > The "re-badged Lola" statement is not entirely true, btw. Lolas pretty > much used Chevy running gear, as I recall. The design might have been > Lola-esque, even Lola-exact, but Ford was all over the mechanicals. Some Lolas may have used Chevy machanicals, but I'm fairly certain that the Lola GT in question did use Ford stuff. Be that as it may, Eric Broadley (of Lola) was a lot of the ability behind the GT40. > is it spring? should I feel this good? wtf? Enjoy it mate :) I happy that you're happy! Ciao Zak -- ======================================================================== http://www.carfolio.com/ Searchable database of 10 000+ car specs Auctioning motoring-related items at eBay? http://www.carfolio.com/ebay/ ======================================================================== > Enjoy it mate :) I happy that you're happy! Is there a nicer South African? MCPD SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk >>> Regardless of marque-admiration constraints, you have to love the >>> new Ford GT. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Well, er ... actually ... they have put out a "Boss" Mustang this year ... SEE? >The "re-badged Lola" statement is not entirely true, btw. Lolas pretty much >used Chevy running gear, as I recall. The design might have been >Lola-esque, even Lola-exact, but Ford was all over the mechanicals. Lola = Eric Broadley = GT40 >But, as I learned through my personal Enzo debacle, a mind can always >change, an opinion can always waver. Freedom of opinion being the blessing >that it is, you are welcome to yours. Try to stop me. The Ford GT is such a colossal monument to un-originality; it should have been produced by "P Diddy"... > The Ford GT is such a colossal monument to un-originality; it should > have been produced by "P Diddy"... Stop it, Mark. You're getting cruel. MC >> The Ford GT is such a colossal monument to un-originality; it should >> have been produced by "P Diddy"... > >Stop it, Mark. You're getting cruel. I was being kind. (How did you know it was me?) <<The Ford GT is such a colossal monument to un-originality; it should have been produced by "P Diddy"...>> Heh. C. :::who doesn't agree with it, but still thinks it's funny::: <<...What's next, a "BOSS" 302 evocative Mustang?>> No, a Boss 351 Mustang. And I'll be first in line for that V10. C. ><<...What's next, a "BOSS" 302 evocative Mustang?>> > >No, a Boss 351 Mustang. And I'll be first in line for that V10. ??? Your local K-car dealer out of Vipers, is he? <<No, a Boss 351 Mustang. And I'll be first in line for that V10.>> C <<???>> Mark Don't you read MotorTrend? Ford has been testing a V10 engine in a Mustang badged as a "Boss 351" for almost a year now. My Crew Chief drove it and it's a beast. <<Your local K-car dealer out of Vipers, is he?>> Because all V10s are POS truck motors? Have you heard an F1 car lately? C. :::who would still give her right leg for one of those V10 351s::: > <<No, a Boss 351 Mustang. And I'll be first in line for that V10.>> C > <<???>> Mark > > Don't you read MotorTrend? Ford has been testing a V10 engine in a Mustang > badged as a "Boss 351" for almost a year now. My Crew Chief drove it and it's a > beast. Ford of the Blings? -- Speaker for the D00d (Ducking for the flame shelter) ><<No, a Boss 351 Mustang. And I'll be first in line for that V10.>> C ><<???>> Mark > >Don't you read MotorTrend? "She'd have to be a really _big_ woman..." No... MT was bunk when I was but 12. >Ford has been testing a V10 engine in a Mustang >badged as a "Boss 351" for almost a year now. My Crew Chief drove it and it's a >beast. ...Eh. Mozel Tov. ><<Your local K-car dealer out of Vipers, is he?>> >Because all V10s are POS truck motors? Have you heard an F1 car lately? Yes. And yet I still shiver at the memory of Alesi's 1995 3l Ferrari v-12. >C. :::who would still give her right leg for one of those V10 351s::: This ain't alt.autos.pos.american.marketing... Gimme a proper small DOHC V-8. ...I think Ferrari, even Audi, have made several. > >Regardless of marque-admiration constraints, you have to love the new Ford > >GT. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > So Ford's joined Porsche in confessing their best and only good idea > is forty years old... (The Ford GT 40 was really a rebadged Lola.) Huh? What is forty years old about the Carrera GT? It is based off their 1998 Lemans car! Preliminary track test have showed the GT to be faster than the Enzo on the track. > Huh? What is forty years old about the Carrera GT? It is based off > their 1998 Lemans car! Preliminary track test have showed the GT > to be faster than the Enzo on the track. Quote your source, lurker. Everything I've read indicates the Enzo outhandles and outruns the Carrera GT in every situation. MC > > Huh? What is forty years old about the Carrera GT? It is based off > > their 1998 Lemans car! Preliminary track test have showed the GT > > to be faster than the Enzo on the track. > > Quote your source, lurker. Everything I've read indicates the Enzo > outhandles and outruns the Carrera GT in every situation. Evo, November 2003. "Based on our preliminary testing, the Carrera GT has been lapping approximately two seconds faster than the Enzo Ferrari, but shh, I wasn't supposed to tell you that." > Evo, November 2003. "Based on our preliminary testing, the > Carrera GT has been lapping approximately two seconds faster than the > Enzo Ferrari, but shh, I wasn't supposed to tell you that." Road and Track Enzo stats: 0-60 mph in 3.28 seconds (best they ever tested), 0-100 in 6.6 seconds (best they ever tested), Quarter mile: 11.1 seconds at 133.0 mph (best they ever tested), Skidpad: 1.10 g, Braking 80-0 mph: 188 ft. (best they ever tested), Slalom: 73.0 mph (best they ever tested) All I've seen on the CGT is that it will do 0-62 in 3.8, and that it will top out at 205. That's good, but I believe in general the Enzo is going to be the better car of the two. Yes, I am biased. However, I do like the CGT, it looks great and obviously it is a serious performer. As I will never own one, and probably not an Enzo either, this discussion is probably kind of moot. But don't go throwing Porsche smack around here just because you think you can. The overwhelming choice of the regular readers of this forum is Ferrari. There is a newsgroup for Porschephiles as well, and in general I don't get along with most of them, but maybe you will. MC >> Evo, November 2003. "Based on our preliminary testing, the >> Carrera GT has been lapping approximately two seconds faster than the >> Enzo Ferrari, but shh, I wasn't supposed to tell you that." Err... That statement says nothing of any substance. >Road and Track Enzo stats: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >top out at 205. That's good, but I believe in general the Enzo is going to >be the better car of the two. Yes, I am biased. As are the car magazines, toward Porsche. They, after all, do buy ad space... >However, I do like the CGT, it looks great and obviously it is a serious >performer. As I will never own one, and probably not an Enzo either, this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Porschephiles as well, and in general I don't get along with most of them, >but maybe you will. ...It's all about the lube. > 0-60 mph in 3.28 seconds (best they ever tested), 0-100 in 6.6 seconds (best > they ever tested), Quarter mile: 11.1 seconds at 133.0 mph (best they ever [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > top out at 205. That's good, but I believe in general the Enzo is going to > be the better car of the two. Yes, I am biased. You can't look at acceleration numbers and expect them to tell the whole story. > However, I do like the CGT, it looks great and obviously it is a serious > performer. As I will never own one, and probably not an Enzo either, this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Porschephiles as well, and in general I don't get along with most of them, > but maybe you will. I'm not trolling, just discussing Enzo vs. Carrera. The GT is going to be one of the biggest competitors for the Enzo, and when the Porsche is released there will be comparisons of the two everywhere you go. They are both terrific sports cars, I would take the Enzo without second thought-but you can't deny the fact that the Carrera GT is going to give the Enzo, GT-40 and anything else you want to throw into the mix a run for their money. The Carrera GT is already a instant success, while the Enzo was very controversial (and still is?). It has love it or hate it looks, I happen to like it but have heard many opinions the other way around. It would be in vain to try to name a superior car at this point as the Porsche has not been fully road tested or put head to head against Ferrari, but there will be many great battles to come between the two, and this thread is only the beginning of things to come. The GT-40 is a nice car, the best from Ford since....well the original. What is too bad is the fact that all the magazines are going to (and have) compare the GT-40 with its 5 liter supercharged V8 to the 3.6 naturally aspirated Modena so they can trumpet their National Enquirer type headlines. I can already see it .."American Supercar Beats Best Of Italy". Open the magazine and you find they compared an GT-40 to a base 360, and not the Enzo, or 575M for that matter. Likewise with the Lamborghini Gallardo insted of the Murcielago. > Regardless of marque-admiration constraints, you have to love the new Ford > GT. I have been salivating over that car for some time now. I would love [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > MC "Tom Jones" <Jonsie1@express.net> WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! *ducks flying panties* SING "SHE'S A LADY"!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! -Matt- :::closet Tom Jones fan::: <<-Matt- :::closet Tom Jones fan:::>> We're quite honoured that you've chosen our little forum to come out of the closet in. C. "TigerRace1" <tigerrace1@aol.com> wrote in message > <<-Matt- :::closet Tom Jones fan:::>> > > We're quite honoured that you've chosen our little forum to come out of the > closet in. I'm here, I dig ridiculous music, get used to it. Where's my pride week? -Matt- "She's a lady, d'oh whoa whoa, she's a lady." |
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