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I'm not sure if I should don a flame proof suit before venturing this question, but seeing as you welcomed the chap who had recently purchased a Mondial QV without venow, I'm taking the plunge. I absolutely love the 412i auto, always have done since I first set eyes on a 400 in my younger days. I'm now in a position to buy one as a second car and have been actively searching out something suitable. Are there any resources (websites, buyers guides etc) for this particular model with regard to what to look for, what to avoid, what to pay etc? I've found huge differences in asking price for what seem to be very similar vehicles (from ?15,000 to ?35,000), what is a resonable price for a late model, say 86 to 88? Would anyone recommend a suitable garage for servicing/advice in the South of England, preferably Surrey? TIA Alan Mudd > I'm not sure if I should don a flame proof suit before venturing this > question, but seeing as you welcomed the chap who had recently purchased a [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Would anyone recommend a suitable garage for servicing/advice in the South > of England, preferably Surrey? QV at Ascot, Talacrest in Egham or Rardley at Hindhead for servicing are 3 that spring to mind within shooting distance. Talacrest or Rardley could maybe help you find a car (www.talacrest.com / www.rardleymotors.com) - obvioulsy you'll pay for the privelage. There's a 400 Auto for sale here http://www.ferrariownersclub.co.uk/sales/sales.asp for ?12.5K. You can leave a "want ad" on there as well. ?35K would seem a tad excessive to say the least (!) Maybe contact the FOC (Peter Everingham) & see if he knows of anyone who might be willing to part with a car. 400/412 are prone to bad rust problems so whatever you do get it checked out - look for bodged repairs - hideously expensive to fix. Leave your flame-proofs at home - anythin' with a Prancing Horse on it is fine by us. rgds I. > Leave your flame-proofs at home - anythin' with a Prancing Horse on > it is fine by us. Even if the Prancing horse is a SF shield on a Kit-car based on a Lada? ;) Best Wishes Thomas *DOH!* > I absolutely love the 412i auto, always have done since I first set eyes on > a 400 in my younger days. I'm quite partial to them myself. Nearly bought one as my first Ferrari. >> Are there any resources (websites, buyers guides etc) for this particular > model with regard to what to look for, what to avoid, what to pay etc? I haven't seen one which would not end-up being an absolute money pit. They suffer greatly from rust. *Everything* is expensive. Just try pricing-up an exhaust system... A Mondial, 308, etc can be run at reasonable costs - I can't see a 400/412 costing anything less than a small fortune. > I've found huge differences in asking price for what seem to be very similar > vehicles (from ?15,000 to ?35,000), what is a resonable price for a late > model, say 86 to 88? For ?35K, I'd want a new one... > Would anyone recommend a suitable garage for servicing/advice in the South > of England, preferably Surrey? QV, Ascot.. Alternatively, ring me if you're local. Regards, Joe. Thank you all for your constructive advice, there certainly seems to be a vote of confidence for QV in Ascot. There is no better advertising than recommendation:-) MC's description of the ageing bond character got me chuckling, I had never thought of it like that, in fact my first ever sight of one of these was somewhat different. It would have been the mid 70's and I was with my parents sitting in a traffic jam coming back to London from a family visit up North, sat on the back seat of my father's Vauxhall Victor..:-) The traffic hadn't moved in ages and people were getting out of their cars for a stretch, it was then I noticed this car I had never seen before, long and low and sleek in a light metallic blue. I was awestruck, I was pestering my father to tell me what it was but He'd never been all that good with cars so didn't have a clue... Then the driver stepped out, thinking of it now it's like a flashback to 70's movie...this guy was middle aged, not particularly fit, wearing British Racing Green corduroy trousers, white shoes and a bright yellow shirt, with big hair to match of course! Damn this was the coolest thing I'd ever seen! Of course looking back now it makes me cringe, but at the time....phew... Thats when I got the bug and it's stuck since then and the only other Ferrari I've liked equally as much is the 456 which I suppose is the 400's spiritual successor. The trouble here is I've always had a hang up about depretiation, I don't mind throwing money at a car to repair it and keep it running, but losing money cause it's getting older...oh no, that's just not on...:-) Alan Mudd > Then the driver stepped out, thinking of it now it's like a flashback > to 70's movie...this guy was middle aged, not particularly fit, > wearing British Racing Green corduroy trousers, white shoes and a > bright yellow shirt, with big hair to match of course! Damn this was > the coolest thing I'd ever seen! Of course looking back now it makes > me cringe, but at the time....phew... Now THAT had to be Benny Hill! I would have loved to see that! MC > Then the driver stepped out, thinking of it now it's like a flashback to > 70's movie...this guy was middle aged, not particularly fit, wearing British > Racing Green corduroy trousers, white shoes and a bright yellow shirt, with > big hair to match of course! Damn this was the coolest thing I'd ever seen! > Of course looking back now it makes me cringe, but at the time....phew... I wonder... http://www.cultv.co.uk/jasonking.gif Joe > I absolutely love the 412i auto, always have done since I first set eyes on > a 400 in my younger days. Yep, there's something quite stylish avout them. > I've found huge differences in asking price for what seem to be very similar > vehicles (from ?15,000 to ?35,000), what is a resonable price for a late > model, say 86 to 88? I've seen them from less than ?10K - but the average service is going to cost over a third of the value of the car! OK, all Ferraris are wallet magnets and we don't buy them expecting anything less... but the 412i? Personally, I'd run a mile, lock my credit card in a safe and throw away the key. > Would anyone recommend a suitable garage for servicing/advice in the South > of England, preferably Surrey? www.hamletcg.co.uk/qv Honest, reliable, low cost, everyone knows them.... ...but even QV will take *all* your money if you turn up in a 412i. Paul  SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk > I'm not sure if I should don a flame proof suit before venturing this > question, but seeing as you welcomed the chap who had recently > purchased a Mondial QV without venow, I'm taking the plunge. > > I absolutely love the 412i auto, always have done since I first set > eyes on a 400 in my younger days. I've always dug those cars myself, kind of like an aging-drunken-Bond kind of car- "for the superspy who's done it all, but is now pouring the Dewar's and entertaining ladies a few years older, it's the used 412i"!! Get one with a sound engine, that's all I can say! Spend the money to have a mechanic look it over. Body/cosmetic problems can always be covered over, I mean on this car who really cares about anything except how it runs? If you're looking for one of these you're already smitten with it. MC |
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