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Seber - 24 Nov 2003 09:12 GMT Tonight while standing inline at the store, I overheard a conversation between two men behind me about the "Car Club" at the local high school. It appeared that two students had their own Ferrari's, one had a XKR, RS6, Porsche and a bevy of other exotics. Can you believe how spoiled kids are today? That just makes me mad (probably because I'm so jealous) that a 16 year old would be handed the keys to a Ferrari so he could beat on the car day in and day out, show it zero respect or appreciation, and then sell it when he gets bored with it and have a new model courtesy of daddy.
Paul Duffin - 24 Nov 2003 12:18 GMT > It appeared that two students had their own Ferrari's, one had a XKR, > RS6, Porsche and a bevy of other exotics. >Can you believe how spoiled kids are today? No ;-)
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TigerRace1 - 24 Nov 2003 22:45 GMT << That just makes me mad (probably because I'm so jealous) that a 16 year old would be handed the keys to a Ferrari so he could beat on the car day in and day out, show it zero respect or appreciation, and then sell it when he gets bored with it and have a new model courtesy of daddy.>>
Why do you assume that a 16 yr old would show *zero respect or appreciation* for a Ferrari? Is that how you were at that age? Personally, I was beyond excited when I just got to go along with my father as he test drove a Boxer when I was 16. I can't tell you how stunned and amazed I was that he actually let me drive his Testarossa when I was 17.
C. :::who knew better than to show disrespect to her mother's Alpine when she was allowed to drive that:::
Seber - 24 Nov 2003 23:17 GMT > Why do you assume that a 16 yr old would show *zero respect or appreciation* > for a Ferrari? Because they have seen fast and the furious one too many times.
> Is that how you were at that age? Nope, even at sixteen no more than 3500rpm until fully warm with an oil temperature showing. Never exceeded the 7000rpm yellow line, most of the time never had it over 5000rpm. But I was smarter than 99% of all kids with cars because I grew up with Ferrari, Jag, Porsche from birth.
> I can't tell you how stunned and amazed I was that he actually > let me drive his Testarossa when I was 17. Me too. Fun car to drive to prom.
TigerRace1 - 25 Nov 2003 01:33 GMT <<Me too. Fun car to drive to prom.>>
Heh. Woulda been, but I only got to drive the TR the one time. I did get to take his 733i to the prom though. Good nuff. <g>
C.
Seber - 25 Nov 2003 05:15 GMT > <<Me too. Fun car to drive to prom.>> > > Heh. Woulda been, but I only got to drive the TR the one time. I did get to > take his 733i to the prom though. Good nuff. <g> > > C. Always wanted to drive a flat twelve but never have What's that engine like against the F355 you used to race? Much more low end grunt and pull I would guess.
TigerRace1 - 25 Nov 2003 21:42 GMT <<Always wanted to drive a flat twelve but never have What's that engine like against the F355 you used to race? Much more low end grunt and pull I would guess.>>
It was quite a while ago that I drove the TR. To be honest, I'm not sure if I remember now. It was all a bit of a haze even then. Imagine not only driving your father's first Ferrari when you are but 17 yrs old, but imagine driving it with him in the passenger seat constantly leaning over to monitor how fast you're going. 'Twas a bit nerve wracking.
I'll have to check with someone here who's driven both of them recently. I'll get back to you on this.
C.
user@internet. com - 26 Mar 2006 01:37 GMT > It was quite a while ago that I drove the TR. To be honest, I'm not sure > if I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > with him in the passenger seat constantly leaning over to monitor how fast > you're going. 'Twas a bit nerve wracking. Remember the twined noose is your friend, slip it over, jump and go away.
Eskalith - 26 Mar 2006 10:10 GMT >>It was quite a while ago that I drove the TR. To be honest, I'm not sure >>if I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Remember the twined noose is your friend, slip it over, jump and go away. Isn't it spring break somewhere?
I'll put the noose on, Nasty Nicky, if you will. (Is that what the "NN" stands for? I hope so, because it makes me hot!) I'll even burn the end of our noose knots with a candle, so when it's time they won't slip or anything like that. Then I'll burn my lip with the candle too, so I can give you a hot kiss. And then we can both kick our chairs away together.
Stop picking on the innocents here. Match me kink for kink! Are you man enough or just another pretender?
Sigh.
 Signature And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear You shout and no one seems to hear. And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes I'll see you on the dark side of the moon
user@internet. com - 26 Mar 2006 23:37 GMT > Sigh. ...and sh.t always comes from arseholes..... you obviously another uneducated american arsehole.
Eskalith - 03 Apr 2006 10:11 GMT >>Sigh. > > ...and sh.t always comes from arseholes..... you obviously another > uneducated american arsehole. Welcome back, Mikal. Those blackouts of yours must be a real bitch.
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user@internet.com - 16 Apr 2006 00:59 GMT > Welcome back, Mikal. Those blackouts of yours must be a real bitch. Your mother is named 'blackouts' then? I'd be tempted to just call her 'Black', it's slightly (but not much) more acceptable.
user@internet.com - 16 Apr 2006 01:03 GMT You do have a pakistanni look to you though I must admit. Do you claim benefits?
Nuff said.
Eskalith - 24 Apr 2006 22:41 GMT > You do have a pakistanni look to you though I must admit. > Do you claim benefits? > > Nuff said. Yes, I claim benefits. And, I have to take medicine to attain stabilization. Otherwise, I would have long ago done something stupid to raise the money for a trip to your death party. What a joke you are.
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Rigsby - 07 May 2006 00:13 GMT >> You do have a pakistanni look to you though I must admit. >> Do you claim benefits? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > stabilization. Otherwise, I would have long ago done something stupid to > raise the money for a trip to your death party. What a joke you are. I'll pay, email the postal address to send it to, do you do paypal? I'll enjoy meeting you, little worthless man, don't expect to be going home though! (not in one piece)
Maybe I can you meet you in the states? I am doing business in the states next month, for six weeks, maybe we can all meet up? Please let me know the time time, place and maybe we can settle this?
Just like the others, I'll be pissing myself when you see the good' British' hiding you've let yourself in for.
Think about it..it's only your life your messing with.
Eskalith - 07 May 2006 04:34 GMT >>>You do have a pakistanni look to you though I must admit. >>>Do you claim benefits? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Think about it..it's only your life your messing with. I'm not coming anywhere to meet your sorry a.s. I already made it clear that I wouldn't be able to travel. However, if you'd like to make sure your pockets are full of cash so I'll have something to remember you by, be my guest.
You come to the city of Prescott, Arizona. Let me know the date and the time and I will give you the meeting spot. No holds barred - please feel free to be stupid enough to bring a gun into our country so that you can be put away somewhere you belong.
You f.cking idiot. "Hiding" is all you pretty much do anyway, so I'm not surprised to see yet another poorly-disguised, "I'm drunk" challenge to your own manhood. You're pathetic,. I have so many years of suppressed anger I would like to take out on somebody like you, it would be my pleasure.
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Eskalith - 10 May 2006 06:25 GMT > I am doing business in the states next month, for six weeks, maybe we can > all meet up? > Please let me know the time time, place and maybe we can settle this? I would kill you before I ever let you meet up with anybody from this group besides me. I'm not joking, either, Mikal. Nobody would miss you. I don't have as much to lose as others here.
I don't believe in God any more. I've seen and heard, and come to understand, too much about human life as it is. Were I to be arrested and jailed, possibly sentenced to death, there are people who would miss me, yes, but perhaps when I get off the boatman's skiff the actions from the rest of my lifetime would make up for the consequences of ending yours.
(I'm sure you don't get the mythologic reference; it's not the band that sang "Come Sail Away").
I'm tired of you picking on my friends, going for the lowest of the low when it comes to insults, etc., and especially your detestable habit of baiting people who are handicapped. You're a piece of sh.t.
I think after subduing you I'd probably cut your hands off so that you would bleed to death; what a way to really feel the effects of all the hostility that poured from them on to a keyboard.
You suck. Come and get me. Get your things in order. I wouldn't want all those Ferraris and Lambos to end up stagnating in probate while your bereaved family fights over your corpse for those - and all your other - precious possessions.
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Eskalith - 15 May 2006 19:29 GMT >>>You do have a pakistanni look to you though I must admit. >>>Do you claim benefits? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Think about it..it's only your life your messing with. Almost a week and a half and no answer. You stupid prick. I'll assume you decided to wander back over to the other, more gullible newsgroups, the ones that haven't had enough of you yet.
Let me know when you get to Prescott.
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MC - 25 Nov 2003 05:58 GMT > Tonight while standing inline at the store, I overheard a conversation > between two men behind me about the "Car Club" at the local high [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > zero respect or appreciation, and then sell it when he gets bored > with it and have a new model courtesy of daddy. Where do you live? In California, New York, Scottsdale, parts of MI, Florida, hell every state has its rich enclaves where kids are treated like royalty whether they deserve it or not. It's called parents feeling guilty, parents being stupid, etc. etc.
MC
Spongecake Brainpan - 25 Nov 2003 07:07 GMT >> Tonight while standing inline at the store, I overheard a conversation >> between two men behind me about the "Car Club" at the local high [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >royalty whether they deserve it or not. It's called parents feeling guilty, >parents being stupid, etc. etc. I grew up in Scarsdale, NY; Guilty Parent capital of the East Coast, and while kids driving MB SLs, or BMW coupes to high school was common enough, I never saw a Ferrari in the lot: They were/are usually daddy's second wife's picture frame.
TigerRace1 - 25 Nov 2003 21:31 GMT <<every state has its rich enclaves where kids are treated like royalty whether they deserve it or not. It's called parents feeling guilty, parents being stupid, etc. etc.>>
<ahem>
Sometimes it's just called parents feeling loving and generous.
C. :::who knows that she doesn't deserve it, but has been told that's not the point:::
Speaker for the D00d - 26 Nov 2003 10:23 GMT > <<every state has its rich enclaves where kids are treated like > royalty whether they deserve it or not. It's called parents feeling [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > C. :::who knows that she doesn't deserve it, but has been told that's > not the point::: TR, It's different for girls. ;)
My friend's father gave him a car for his 17th birthday. It came in crates. ("Some assembly required".) (It took us two weeks.)
Some of my fondest memories from my youth come from the times spent with friends, rebuilding starter motors, replacing head gaskets, restoring a Triumph GT6, and generally learning our way around under the hood.
A "rich brat" who gets handed a new car with a warranty misses out on that.
But then, the original post _did_ say it was a "car club", so maybe those kids aren't missing it. And a Ferrari's elegant engineering makes it a good car to get into the panties of. ;^) (See what it's like when it's right, rather than risking "mass market" disease.)
Better these kids start out restoring an old Mondial 8 or 400i than bolting bling wings on their Civics.
But it's not the rich kids that rice out their FWD burners. The "brats" don't spend that much time on their cars.
Most actual "spoiled brats" don't keep Ferraris for long. (Remember Brittney's two block experience with a Ferrari?) Maximum performance cars require the kind of attention and commitment that dilettantes aren't inclined to make. So they wind up more with "sport luxury" models or Porsches (with full traction computer support).
This isn't limited to the young version of rich brats, either. Quite a number of "nouveau riche" types blame the Ferrari for their poor driving skills and more to other marques.
So the economics works out. These are the source of late model Ferraris on the used market. ;) (Fond memories of the dot-com days, when used Ferraris were everywhere.)
-- Speaker for the D00d
MC - 26 Nov 2003 13:09 GMT > Better these kids start out restoring an old Mondial 8 or 400i than > bolting bling wings on their Civics. What a line! Once again you show us who's the boss in AAF.
Many thanks.
MC
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