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Car Forum / Ferrari Cars / February 2004

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Dean For America, 2004 - 27 Jan 2004 00:11 GMT
"Development Work On The MCC Underway

01/13/2004Fiorano

After yesterday’s few laps to do a preliminary systems check on the
car at Fiorano, today the circuit was the scene for the first day of
development work on the new MCC."[...]

http://tinyurl.com/2kvc3, et seq.

For f.ck's sake...
Paul Duffin - 27 Jan 2004 09:04 GMT
> "Development Work On The MCC Underway
>
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>
> For f.ck's sake...

See also...

http://www.ferrariownersclub.co.uk/happenings/2004/january/maser_gt/text.asp

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Dean For America, 2004 - 27 Jan 2004 16:55 GMT
>> "Development Work On The MCC Underway
>> 01/13/2004Fiorano
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>http://www.ferrariownersclub.co.uk/happenings/2004/january/maser_gt/text.asp

To borrow from Martha "NYS DoC 0634871" Stewart: 'This is NOT a good
thing'...
TigerRace1 - 27 Jan 2004 21:05 GMT
<<To borrow from Martha "NYS DoC 0634871" Stewart: 'This is NOT a good
thing'...>>

And why is that? Isn't this the car that I mentioned some weeks ago?

C.
Dean For America, 2004 - 27 Jan 2004 23:48 GMT
><<To borrow from Martha "NYS DoC 0634871" Stewart: 'This is NOT a good
>thing'...>>
>
>And why is that?

It is not a Maserati, it is not in keeping with the spirit of the
class, it should cannibalize wins from Ferrari, it is _not_ a
Maserati, other manufacturers will drop out, It is _not_ a Maserati...

And:  ...It REEKS of desperation.

>Isn't this the car that I mentioned some weeks ago?

Apparently.  
I was so hoping they'd come to their senses, and dropped it.

Rebadging the Enzo as a Maser is going to be BAD for both:  It mocks
Maserati and devalues Ferrari.

"We'll just slap these Caddy emblems on a Nova and no one will be the
wiser" - said the GM exec, right before the Japanese had GM guts for
garters.
TigerRace1 - 28 Jan 2004 00:51 GMT
<<It is not a Maserati>>

Ferrari says it is.

<< it is not in keeping with the spirit of the class>>

What *spirit* are you referring to?

<< it should cannibalize wins from Ferrari>>

I'm guessing that you actually meant *could* here.

<<other manufacturers will drop out>>

Why? What proof do you have for this?

<<"We'll just slap these Caddy emblems on a Nova and no one will be the
wiser">>

Caddy emblems on a Vette or H2 emblems on a Suburban or Mustang emblems on a
'74 Fairlane or a new Lincoln. A Firebird is a Camaro and Porches are Vedubs.
So what else is new?

C.
Michael Hanson - 28 Jan 2004 03:23 GMT
Well, I like the way it looks better than the Enzo.

I don't see the big deal, really.  Ferrari made race versions of the F40,
tried to do it with the F50.  Maserati is wholly-owned by Ferrari, sees the
opportunity to leverage a rather large investment of time and money by
badge-engineering.  I hope to see one, eventually.

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Dean For America, 2004 - 29 Jan 2004 15:33 GMT
><<It is not a Maserati>>
>Ferrari says it is.

And Kraft says Chez Whiz® is food:  They are both lying.

><< it is not in keeping with the spirit of the class>>
>What *spirit* are you referring to?

GT racing...

><< it should cannibalize wins from Ferrari>>
>I'm guessing that you actually meant *could* here.

Nope;  It should have the 575GTC for lunch.

><<other manufacturers will drop out>>
>Why? What proof do you have for this?

It has happened before.  

><<"We'll just slap these Caddy emblems on a Nova and no one will be the
>wiser">>
>Caddy emblems on a Vette or H2 emblems on a Suburban or Mustang emblems on a
>'74 Fairlane or a new Lincoln. A Firebird is a Camaro and Porches are Vedubs.
>So what else is new?

...That it has been done before does not make it correct now.
TigerRace1 - 12 Feb 2004 23:47 GMT
<<And Kraft says Chez Whiz® is food:  They are both lying. >>

Which part of Cheez Whiz isn't food?

http://pubs.acs.org/cen/whatstuff/stuff/7806sci2.html

<< it is not in keeping with the spirit of the class>> Political Man
<<What *spirit* are you referring to?>> C.
<<GT racing...>> Political Man

I didn't ask you what class of racing. I asked you what *spirit* you were
referring to.

<<Nope;  It should have the 575GTC for lunch.>>

OK. And?

<<It has happened before. >>

Manufacturers come and go from various series. So what?

C.
Dan Manning - 27 Jan 2004 20:45 GMT
> > "Development Work On The MCC Underway
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> See also...

http://www.ferrariownersclub.co.uk/happenings/2004/january/maser_gt/text.asp

> Paul
> --
> Http://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk

Besides the front, I don't really think it looks much like the Enzo....is
there something else I'm missing?
 
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