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Ferrari Wristwatch
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Dave Morgan - 19 Jan 2004 17:19 GMT Can anyone tell me if the Ferrari wristwatch is still produced ?
Dave in UK
Iain Miller - 19 Jan 2004 17:27 GMT > Can anyone tell me if the Ferrari wristwatch is still produced ? > > Dave in UK Try E-bay?
I.
MC - 19 Jan 2004 22:08 GMT >>Can anyone tell me if the Ferrari wristwatch is still produced ? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I. It would appear that they still do. It took me all of about six seconds to find this site,and I didn't know the name of the manufacturer. Google - you should try it some time.
http://www.girard-perregaux.ch/e/MFE/MFE.html
MC
gary! - 20 Jan 2004 04:56 GMT > >>Can anyone tell me if the Ferrari wristwatch is still produced ? > >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > MC well--aren't we cheeky? here's one on ebay. very stylish, and priced right for the true collector of fine timepieces. instead of all that authorised club logo stuff, i wonder what my friends at the next rally would think if i dressed up in cheap ebay ferrari crap like matching hat, pants and a t-shirt! too bad they don't sell pinto regalia.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2685800365&category=31387
MC - 20 Jan 2004 06:52 GMT > well--aren't we cheeky? > here's one on ebay. very stylish, and priced right for the true collector > of fine timepieces. instead of all that authorised club logo stuff, i wonder > what my friends at the next rally would think if i dressed up in cheap ebay > ferrari crap like matching hat, pants and a t-shirt! too bad they don't sell > pinto regalia. Every few weeks or so some person who never, or rarely, posts here wanders in and asks one or another of the most easily-answered questions ever seen. And most regularly, somebody here - a lot of times me - answers their simpleton question with haste and respect. Sometimes, like this time, I get a little irritable at the fact that apparently even veteran Internet users are either too stupid or too lazy to use a decent search engine to find answers to SIMPLE questions.
And most certainly, whether or not you find my answer cheeky is completely irrelevant. Apparently you decided not to notice that even while spanking the guy a bit I still answered his question.
Cheeky, indeed. The cheeky one is the one who thinks this group is simply a library or encyclopedia, opened and used by asking dumb question after dumb question - but never recompensed by offering anything for us to mull over or debate.
Dave Morgan - 20 Jan 2004 10:38 GMT > Cheeky, indeed. The cheeky one is the one who thinks this group is > simply a library or encyclopedia, opened and used by asking dumb > question after dumb question - but never recompensed by offering > anything for us to mull over or debate. Well, since i am the one who asked the seemingly dumb question in the first place i guess i should respond, i would have done anyway.
Firstly let me say thank you to all those that replied, in whatever manner they saw fit.
Thanks.
As for not trying google, i have tried lots of searching, i have contacted Ferrari Car dealers, i have telephoned Cartiers in Bond St who no longer deal with with this particular wristwatch, i have explained to them that they have serviced it for me in the past and they were the only ones (apparently) in the UK authorised to do so. So it was not a lazy route for me, i'm sorry if you think so.
As for this conference, there are hundreds of newsgroups and conferences, i am a participant in a number of them, where i can answer questions for other folk i do so, i dont mind at all, sometimes people need to just "pop in" and ask......nothing wrong with that.....
Anyway, now that i have a deal of info to be going on with, do any of you know of a Service agent here in the UK.........
Thanks to all of you.
Dave in UK.
TigerRace1 - 20 Jan 2004 17:37 GMT <<As for not trying google, i have tried lots of searching, i have contacted Ferrari Car dealers, i have telephoned Cartiers in Bond St who no longer deal with with this particular wristwatch, i have explained to them that they have serviced it for me in the past and they were the only ones (apparently) in the UK authorised to do so. So it was not a lazy route for me, i'm sorry if you think so.>>
But you didn't try Google? You manage to find any number of NGs, but a simple search engine eludes you?
<<Anyway, now that i have a deal of info to be going on with, do any of you know of a Service agent here in the UK....>>
Are you dense, man? MC gave you the link to the company's website! Do you need to be led by the hand to the precise link that you're interested in? Shall one of us ring the store up for you as well? I'll give you one more hint out of the kindness of my heart.
Time Products Luxury LTD
Now go look the phone number and address up yourself. It's on the bloody website.
C.
Dave Morgan - 21 Jan 2004 11:49 GMT > But you didn't try Google? You manage to find any number of NGs, but a > simple [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Are you dense, man? My wife thinks i am at times,
My word, i have touched some nerves in here have'nt i...........Whoa, calm down.........some of you will nedd to visit the medical center if you carry on like this. Take it easy.....chill baby............
What does it matter if a "dumb arse" asks questions in here or anywhere for that matter, he may just be a "dumb arse" and cant help it....if he is then either help him or leave the poor guy alone.
This conference or whatever its called is not yours, it does not belong to you or any of you......you may moderate or contribute to it but by creating it you make it open to all the arse holes of this planet, and some E.T's juding by some of the responses.....
As for me.......well......when i thanked you all, i meant it......over the past 2 years (its not a burning issue you see) i have visited Ferrari Car dealers, telephoned Cartiers, looked on countless websites, and google is my default home page......all to no avail, perhaps i used the wrong keywords at the time......but the responses i got from where i mailed were of no real help.....so while looking for another newsgroup in the long list of them i saw......Ferrari.......i was not looking for it, i just happened across it and thought .....hey, thats worth a shot......and gentlemen it has been fruitfull.....i ask myself....why did'nt i ask in here in the first place.......
I did'nt buy the watch, it was a gift for me from someone who could afford to buy it, i have other things i spend my money on.......that something is scuba diving......and Jag's.....
Just so that i dont just take and not give in here i post for your perusal a recent trip report of mine...........just part of a holiday report.
I hope you view it as a contribution, something different for a change eh.
Our trip started of with a week in Dubai, i had wanted to dive on the East coast of the Emirates but came down with a dreadful cold and heavy cough, so that was out. Dubai was mostly overcast although warm, it is not a pedestrian city, not from down on Jumera beach anyway, the quality of the hotels is staggering compared with what we pay here for a night just off the "motorway"....
Next stop was Manila for a few days, (neither of us will fly more than 8 hours now unless there is no stop) it was here that i read about the Sipadan incident being "officially over"..... Manila is very warm and humid, it is also very, very inexpensive, for shopping (the ladies would love this)and eating out, the hotels are of a very good quality and very reasonably priced. Best place to stay would be in the Makati district.
From Manila we flew to Guam, which is a U.S. dependency ? i think thats right, it was U.S. immigration anyway, from there we flew 1.5 hrs to Chuuk and noticed the weather was very overcast, the airport is just a bit of a shed, Chuuk appears to be very poor, or very poorly managed, nepotism I'm told is rife here, so is corruption.
We were met at the airport and transported by small boat out to our dive boat SS Thorfinn which was anchored out in the lagoon, the boat itself is an old Whaler, used to working in the Arctic. It can cater for up to 22 people although when we arrived there was only one other guest and he was leaving for Sydney in two days time. The boat is all steel and very sturdy, it never moved an inch whatever the sea did, in fact all the cylinders on board were stored upright on the dive deck and none were strapped in any way at all, it is steam driven and watching the crank and pistons was a real treat. One good feature on Thorfinn was the jacuzzi on the second deck, real hot water and a great relaxing treat.
The only other boats in the lagoon are the Aggressor and the Odyssey, i dont think they had guests while we were there as they didn't move. The diving was done by tender from Thorfinn, most sites were only 5-10 minutes away, for diving the outer reaches of the lagoon Thorfinn would steam across at the end of the week to access those. The cabins on board all have showers and w/c, also in all rooms is a tv with video player and video library on top deck with diving and regular videos at no cost. Food on board was adequate, not always to our liking but we never went hungry. We were expecting clear blue skies and flat seas, we actually got overcast skies, rain and rough seas, i think we had 2 sunny days and calm seas out of nine days there. It did not spoil the diving though. There is no current in the lagoon so no need for surface bags etc...the lack of light and what i would term "poor vis" made photography and video less than fantastic, the power on board Thorfinn would not charge my UK 400 either, not enough "umph".... I always thought that the wrecks were Japanese Imperial Fleet, they are not, they are the supply ships that were sitting in the lagoon. The divemaster on Thorfinn (who didn't dive) was Dan, he knew virtually everything there was to know about every ship in the lagoon, where it was made, what it carried, how and when it was hit etc, he was exceptional knowledgeable. The dive guide(s) and the boatmen were excellent, the tenders, of which there are 4 on Thorfinn, have no GPS or instruments but the guide could find any wreck just by eye triangulation, and even drop anchor to the bow or stern of the wreck you were diving, and the vis did not allow you to see these wrecks from the surface, quite amazing.
The depth that we dived was down to 60 metres, a lot of the wrecks had parts as shallow as 3-5 metres, which was handy while doing deco at various depths. Thorfinn had a safety stop regime of its own, 4 stops on the way up at various depths, and boasted no one ever getting bent.
The temp was around 28-29-30 at all depths, and the vis was mostly gloomy due to overcast skies and varied between 10-20metres.
There was not a lot of coral growth considering 60 years had passed, some parts of the wrecks were surprisingly clean. Port holes with glass, torpedoes, tanks, motorbikes, trucks, big shells, and millions of small arm rounds still in crates and also scattered over the decks, crockery, cups, bowls, Vynal records ????, Binoculars, medical supplies, small bottles of pills in their thousands still intact, and bottles of alcohol, i have never seen so many bottles, they must have been pissed.....the bottles were like large champagne bottles though, i didn't understand why they were so big. On a sadder note....there were skulls and bones still in these wrecks, bringing home that people had died here a long time ago. The holes in the sides made by torpedoes were huge and had buckled the structure. We were able to penetrate the wrecks, at times quite deep, down to many stairwells, to see engine room and massive banks of gauges, while in there our torch decided to give out (there was only me ,my wife and the guide) and we were left with the guides torch, amazingly he gave us this torch while we had a look around, and he disappeared into the blackness without a torch, what seemed like 5 minutes later he reaper ed with a skull that he kept hidden from other guides eyes, the amazing thing was he being able to navigate in total (and i mean total) darkness. We never felt stressed while in these wrecks, even though there was no visible light, such was our confidence and belief in our guide, Kent. We were totally at ease with him. There were always Nitrox hang tanks from the tender should anyone need them, we didn't find the need but it was reassuring. Once back on the tender and the big boat we never had to touch our kit, it was taken off while in the water and we didn't have to touch it again till we strapped it on the next dive, Thorfinn had fixed dive times for 5 dives a day, the first being 8am, 11am, 3pm, etc, we only did 3 dives a day so I'm not sure what the other times were. Sadly our 9 days went far too quickly, we enjoyed all our diving there and could recommend it without reservation, we were told by all we spoke to that a boat is by far the best way to dive Chuuk, and not to stay on Weno the mainland as it can be a little unsavoury, from what i saw of it there is only the Truck stop Hotel and nothing outside that.
So, it was back to Guam and on to Yap for some diving with Manta's, awesome............. Now do i do the Yap report here and risk boring everyone to death or post as another "post".......i suppose i should really get back to some work, so, its another posting for the Yap report then.......i hope you all enjoy reading this one, it was actually better than it sounds and if anyone wants any info or tips then i should be only too happy to help if i am able.
DaveM
TigerRace1 - 22 Jan 2004 03:09 GMT <<My word, i have touched some nerves in here have'nt i......>>
In my case, I just have a really low threshold for annoyance. It's quite easy to trigger.
<<What does it matter if a "dumb arse" asks questions in here or anywhere for that matter, he may just be a "dumb arse" and cant help it....if he is then either help him or leave the poor guy alone.>>
Ah, you must be a devotee of the Goddess Ignora. She doesn't have many followers here. We tend to speak right up, no matter how inane the topic is.
<<This conference or whatever its called is not yours, it does not belong to you or any of you....>>
Yada, yada, yada... We were here first. We reserve the right to set the tone for newbies and if they don't like the atmosphere, they're free to take their dishes and doilies and go home. <eg>
<<over the past 2 years (its not a burning issue you see) i have visited Ferrari Car dealers, telephoned Cartiers, looked on countless websites, and google is my default home page......all to no avail, perhaps i used the wrong keywords at the time....>>
Didn't you know the name of the watch? Did you ever plug that into a search engine? I just don't see how this could be so difficult for you.
<<Manila is very warm and humid, it is also very, very inexpensive, for shopping (the ladies would love this)...
i hope you all enjoy reading this one>>
Except for that bit of stereotyping, the story was quite enjoyable. Next time, toss a car or two in there just to keep it on topic. ;-)
C.
Dave Morgan - 22 Jan 2004 13:49 GMT > Next time, > toss a car or two in there just to keep it on topic. ;-) I'll try.....;^) Dave
MC - 20 Jan 2004 17:54 GMT > As for this conference, there are hundreds of newsgroups and conferences, > i am a participant in a number of them, where i can answer questions for > other folk i do so, i dont mind at all, sometimes people need to just "pop > in" and ask......nothing wrong with that..... Well, not wanting to appear to back away from my initial stance (as I do just that), my moods do kind of swing pretty wildly. On a different day I might have just put in the link without a word, or even with nice words.
As Tiger indicated, Time Products appears to at least be able to field your questions, and I'll go one step further than her post:
Time Products Luxury LTD 23, Grosvenor Street London W1K 4QL
Tel: 0044 2074 164 160 Fax: 0044 2074 164 161
E-mail: feedback@timeproducts.co.uk
Dean For America, 2004 - 20 Jan 2004 19:07 GMT >> As for this conference, there are hundreds of newsgroups and conferences, >> i am a participant in a number of them, where i can answer questions for [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >E-mail: feedback@timeproducts.co.uk Is anyone else disgusted by the appearance of one who would purchase a $10k watch, but who can't operate a f.cking phonebook?
MC - 20 Jan 2004 21:37 GMT > Is anyone else disgusted by the appearance of one who would purchase a > $10k watch, but who can't operate a f.cking phonebook? The funny thing is, in days of yore I would be the same, and in most cases legitimate, thorn-in-the-side that you are. So many things are so goddamned obvious, and yet when one brings it out in the open they get shot down. Some days I am more than willing to fight, other days I just pack it in. I mean, I wonder sometimes about the pretty small group of regular contributors on this board. Do I (and perhaps you, and perhaps Tiger, and so on), like members of other boards have dutifully told me over and over again, chase away people who could really contribute? I, who does not even own a Ferrari? Past Exhibit A: A guy wanders in here and asks which Ferrari would be best to shuttle business clients around in, I take umbrage, and I get blasted to hell (no, I'm not putting this to the fire again, just an example).
It's enough to make me unsubscribe from the group every once in awhile and just forget about it - the same way I do with my entire computer also. But I come back here because I feel like I have some legitimate pals here and I like hearing what they have to say. I'm smart enough and knowledgeble enough about Ferraris to be able to contribute information and to find info for others. Whether or not there are hordes of mecahnically competent, Ferrari-owning aristocrats here is not important to me.
Some days, I realize how important the Internet can really be. The rest of the time, I know that it is kind of like an electronic version of Grand Central Station or St. Mark's Square - at any given moment, teeming with people. A large part of them will be utter idiots, incapable of logical thought. But a few will be smart, funny, and likeable. Sometimes both groups mingle, too - it can't be avoided.
You have been here quite awhile, on and off. You were here when I first started here. I think you are quite intelligent and a perfect fit here. Others do not. But I do not think you should stop saying what you feel like saying because of criticism or argument.
TigerRace1 - 22 Jan 2004 02:57 GMT <<Is anyone else disgusted by the ppearance of one who would purchase a $10k watch, but who can't operate a f.cking phonebook? >>
No, it's just you.
C. :::who thought that being annoyed was already a bit of a stretch:::
Dave Morgan - 22 Jan 2004 13:49 GMT > being annoyed was already a bit of a stretch Sod it.......I'll go and buy a Swatch.
Dave
Dean For America, 2004 - 20 Jan 2004 19:05 GMT >> well--aren't we cheeky? >> here's one on ebay. very stylish, and priced right for the true collector [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >question after dumb question - but never recompensed by offering >anything for us to mull over or debate. Honest debate is clearly frowned upon here: Accept The Wisdom of The Pooh-Bahs, without question, is clearly the preferred method of discourse, for some.
Iain Miller - 21 Jan 2004 00:10 GMT > Honest debate is clearly frowned upon here: Accept The Wisdom of The > Pooh-Bahs, without question, is clearly the preferred method of > discourse, for some. Bollox (!)
I.
TigerRace1 - 21 Jan 2004 01:53 GMT <<Honest debate is clearly frowned upon here>>
Oh, *clearly*. Shall we look forward to your BES soon then?
C.
Dean For America, 2004 - 23 Jan 2004 15:43 GMT ><<Honest debate is clearly frowned upon here>> > >Oh, *clearly*. Shall we look forward to your BES soon then? It's considered proper to define non-standard abbreviations the first time they are used, or did you mean to say "the Egyptian god of music and revelry"?
TigerRace1 - 25 Jan 2004 20:46 GMT <<It's considered proper to define non-standard abbreviations the first time they are used>>
Reference to a Brave Exit Speech is fairly standard on most of the boards that I frequent.
<<or did you mean to say "the Egyptian god of music and revelry"?>>
Not my pantheon, but I believe that if you're going to refer to Bes' domain, you shouldn't leave out His protection of women and children.
C.
gary! - 21 Jan 2004 00:28 GMT > > well--aren't we cheeky? > > here's one on ebay. very stylish, and priced right for the true collector [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > question after dumb question - but never recompensed by offering > anything for us to mull over or debate. of course i noticed that. just having some cheeky fun. we all get so serious sometimes...i for one, woud be that idiot who would find outlandish, cheap stuff on ebay and sport it to a rally.
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