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Ferrari Wristwatch

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Dave Morgan - 19 Jan 2004 17:19 GMT
Can anyone tell me if the Ferrari wristwatch is still produced ?

Dave in UK
Iain Miller - 19 Jan 2004 17:27 GMT
> Can anyone tell me if the Ferrari wristwatch is still produced ?
>
> Dave in UK

Try E-bay?

I.
MC - 19 Jan 2004 22:08 GMT
>>Can anyone tell me if the Ferrari wristwatch is still produced ?
>>
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>
> I.

It would appear that they still do.  It took me all of about six seconds
to find this site,and I didn't know the name of the manufacturer.
Google - you should try it some time.

http://www.girard-perregaux.ch/e/MFE/MFE.html

MC
gary! - 20 Jan 2004 04:56 GMT
> >>Can anyone tell me if the Ferrari wristwatch is still produced ?
> >>
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>
> MC
well--aren't we cheeky?
here's one on ebay.  very stylish, and priced right for the true collector
of fine timepieces. instead of all that authorised club logo stuff, i wonder
what my friends at the next rally would think if i dressed up in cheap ebay
ferrari crap like matching hat, pants and a t-shirt! too bad they don't sell
pinto regalia.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2685800365&category=31387
MC - 20 Jan 2004 06:52 GMT
> well--aren't we cheeky?
>  here's one on ebay.  very stylish, and priced right for the true collector
> of fine timepieces. instead of all that authorised club logo stuff, i wonder
> what my friends at the next rally would think if i dressed up in cheap ebay
> ferrari crap like matching hat, pants and a t-shirt! too bad they don't sell
> pinto regalia.

Every few weeks or so some person who never, or rarely, posts here
wanders in and asks one or another of the most easily-answered questions
ever seen.  And most regularly, somebody here - a lot of times me -
answers their simpleton question with haste and respect.  Sometimes,
like this time, I get a little irritable at the fact that apparently
even veteran Internet users are either too stupid or too lazy to use a
decent search engine to find answers to SIMPLE questions.

And most certainly, whether or not you find my answer cheeky is
completely irrelevant.  Apparently you decided not to notice that even
while spanking the guy a bit I still answered his question.

Cheeky, indeed.  The cheeky one is the one who thinks this group is
simply a library or encyclopedia, opened and used by asking dumb
question after dumb question - but never recompensed by offering
anything for us to mull over or debate.
Dave Morgan - 20 Jan 2004 10:38 GMT
> Cheeky, indeed.  The cheeky one is the one who thinks this group is
> simply a library or encyclopedia, opened and used by asking dumb
> question after dumb question - but never recompensed by offering
> anything for us to mull over or debate.

Well, since i am the one who asked the seemingly dumb question in the
first place i guess i should respond, i would have done anyway.

Firstly let me say thank you to all those that replied, in whatever manner
they saw fit.

Thanks.

As for not trying google, i have tried lots of searching, i have contacted
Ferrari Car dealers, i have telephoned Cartiers in Bond St who no longer
deal with with this particular wristwatch, i have explained to them that
they have serviced it for me in the past and they were the only ones
(apparently) in the UK authorised to do so. So it was not a lazy route for
me, i'm sorry if you think so.

As for this conference, there are hundreds of newsgroups and conferences,
i am a participant in a number of them, where i can answer questions for
other folk i do so, i dont mind at all, sometimes people need to just "pop
in" and ask......nothing wrong with that.....

Anyway, now that i have a deal of info to be going on with, do any of you
know of a Service agent here in the UK.........

Thanks to all of you.

Dave in UK.
TigerRace1 - 20 Jan 2004 17:37 GMT
<<As for not trying google, i have tried lots of searching, i have contacted
Ferrari Car dealers, i have telephoned Cartiers in Bond St who no longer deal
with with this particular wristwatch, i have explained to them that they have
serviced it for me in the past and they were the only ones (apparently) in the
UK authorised to do so. So it was not a lazy route for me, i'm sorry if you
think so.>>

But you didn't try Google? You manage to find any number of NGs, but a simple
search engine eludes you?

<<Anyway, now that i have a deal of info to be going on with, do any of you
know of a Service agent here in the UK....>>

Are you dense, man? MC gave you the link to the company's website! Do you need
to be led by the hand to the precise link that you're interested in? Shall one
of us ring the store up for you as well? I'll give you one more hint out of the
kindness of my heart.

Time Products Luxury LTD

Now go look the phone number and address up yourself. It's on the bloody
website.

C.
Dave Morgan - 21 Jan 2004 11:49 GMT
> But you didn't try Google? You manage to find any number of NGs, but a
> simple
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>
> Are you dense, man?

My wife thinks i am at times,

My word, i have touched some nerves in here have'nt i...........Whoa, calm
down.........some of you will nedd to visit the medical center if you
carry on like this.
Take it easy.....chill baby............

What does it matter if a "dumb arse" asks questions in here or anywhere
for that matter, he may just be a "dumb arse" and cant help it....if he is
then either help him or leave the poor guy alone.

This conference or whatever its called is not yours, it does not belong to
you or any of you......you may moderate or contribute to it but by
creating it you make it open to all the arse holes of this planet, and
some E.T's juding by some of the responses.....

As for me.......well......when i thanked you all, i meant it......over the
past 2 years (its not a burning issue you see) i have visited Ferrari Car
dealers, telephoned Cartiers, looked on countless websites, and google is
my default home page......all to no avail, perhaps i used the wrong
keywords at the time......but the responses i got from where i mailed were
of no real help.....so while looking for another newsgroup in the long
list of them i saw......Ferrari.......i was not looking for it, i just
happened across it and thought .....hey, thats worth a shot......and
gentlemen it has been fruitfull.....i ask myself....why did'nt i ask in
here in the first place.......

I did'nt buy the watch, it was a gift for me from someone who could afford
to buy it, i have other things i spend my money on.......that something is
scuba diving......and Jag's.....

Just so that i dont just take and not give in here i post for your perusal
a recent trip report of mine...........just part of a holiday report.

I hope you view it as a contribution, something different for a change eh.

Our trip started of with a week in Dubai, i had wanted to dive on the East
coast of the Emirates but came down with a dreadful cold and heavy cough,
so that was out. Dubai was mostly overcast although warm, it is not a
pedestrian city, not from down on Jumera beach anyway, the quality of the
hotels is staggering compared with what we pay here for a night just off
the "motorway"....

Next stop was Manila for a few days, (neither of us will fly more than 8
hours now unless there is no stop) it was here that i read about the
Sipadan incident being "officially over".....
Manila is very warm and humid, it is also very, very inexpensive, for
shopping (the ladies would love this)and eating out, the hotels are of a
very good quality and very reasonably priced. Best place to stay would be
in the Makati district.

From Manila we flew to Guam, which is a U.S. dependency ? i think thats
right, it was U.S. immigration anyway, from there we flew 1.5 hrs to Chuuk
and noticed the weather was very overcast, the airport is just a bit of a
shed, Chuuk appears to be very poor, or very poorly managed, nepotism I'm
told is rife here, so is corruption.

We were met at the airport and transported by small boat out to our dive
boat SS Thorfinn which was anchored out in the lagoon, the boat itself is
an old Whaler, used to working in the Arctic. It can cater for up to 22
people although when we arrived there was only one other guest and he was
leaving for Sydney in two days time. The boat is all steel and very
sturdy, it never moved an inch whatever the sea did, in fact all the
cylinders on board were stored upright on the dive deck and none were
strapped in any way at all, it is steam driven and watching the crank and
pistons was a real treat. One good feature on Thorfinn was the jacuzzi on
the second deck, real hot water and a great relaxing treat.

The only other boats in the lagoon are the Aggressor and the Odyssey, i
dont think they had guests while we were there as they didn't move.
The diving was done by tender from Thorfinn, most sites were only 5-10
minutes away, for diving the outer reaches of the lagoon Thorfinn would
steam across at the end of the week to access those.
The cabins on board all have showers and w/c, also in all rooms is a tv
with video player and video library on top deck with diving and regular
videos at no cost.
Food on board was adequate, not always to our liking but we never went
hungry.
We were expecting clear blue skies and flat seas, we actually got overcast
skies, rain and rough seas, i think we had 2 sunny days and calm seas out
of nine days there. It did not spoil the diving though.
There is no current in the lagoon so no need for surface bags etc...the
lack of light and what i would term "poor vis" made photography and video
less than fantastic, the power on board Thorfinn would not charge my UK
400 either, not enough "umph"....
I always thought that the wrecks were Japanese Imperial Fleet, they are
not, they are the supply ships that were sitting in the lagoon.
The divemaster on Thorfinn (who didn't dive) was Dan, he knew virtually
everything there was to know about every ship in the lagoon, where it was
made, what it carried, how and when it was hit etc, he was exceptional
knowledgeable.
The dive guide(s) and the boatmen were excellent, the tenders, of which
there are 4 on Thorfinn, have no GPS or instruments but the guide could
find any wreck just by eye triangulation, and even drop anchor to the bow
or stern of the wreck you were diving, and the vis did not allow you to
see these wrecks from the surface, quite amazing.

The depth that we dived was down to 60 metres, a lot of the wrecks had
parts as shallow as 3-5 metres, which was handy while doing deco at
various depths. Thorfinn had a safety stop regime of its own, 4 stops on
the way up at various depths, and boasted no one ever getting bent.

The temp was around 28-29-30 at all depths, and the vis was mostly gloomy
due to overcast skies and varied between 10-20metres.

There was not a lot of coral growth considering 60 years had passed, some
parts of the wrecks were surprisingly clean. Port holes with glass,
torpedoes, tanks, motorbikes, trucks, big shells, and millions of small
arm rounds still in crates and also scattered over the decks, crockery,
cups, bowls, Vynal records ????, Binoculars, medical supplies, small
bottles of pills in their thousands still intact, and bottles of alcohol,
i have never seen so many bottles, they must have been pissed.....the
bottles were like large champagne bottles though, i didn't understand why
they were so big. On a sadder note....there were skulls and bones still in
these wrecks, bringing home that people had died here a long time ago.
The holes in the sides made by torpedoes were huge and had buckled the
structure.
We were able to penetrate the wrecks, at times quite deep, down to many
stairwells, to see engine room and massive banks of gauges, while in there
our torch decided to give out (there was only me ,my wife and the guide)
and we were left with the guides torch, amazingly he gave us this torch
while we had a look around, and he disappeared into the blackness without
a torch, what seemed like 5 minutes later he reaper ed with a skull that
he kept hidden from other guides eyes, the amazing thing was he being able
to navigate in total (and i mean total) darkness. We never felt stressed
while in these wrecks, even though there was no visible light, such was
our confidence and belief in our guide, Kent. We were totally at ease with
him.
There were always Nitrox hang tanks from the tender should anyone need
them, we didn't find the need but it was reassuring.
Once back on the tender and the big boat we never had to touch our kit, it
was taken off while in the water and we didn't have to touch it again till
we strapped it on the next dive, Thorfinn had fixed dive times for 5 dives
a day, the first being 8am, 11am, 3pm, etc, we only did 3 dives a day so
I'm not sure what the other times were.
Sadly our 9 days went far too quickly, we enjoyed all our diving there and
could recommend it without reservation, we were told by all we spoke to
that a boat is by far the best way to dive Chuuk, and not to stay on Weno
the mainland as it can be a little unsavoury, from what i saw of it there
is only the Truck stop Hotel and nothing outside that.

So, it was back to Guam and on to Yap for some diving with Manta's,
awesome.............
Now do i do the Yap report here and risk boring everyone to death or post
as another "post".......i suppose i should really get back to some work,
so, its another posting for the Yap report then.......i hope you all enjoy
reading this one, it was actually better than it sounds and if anyone
wants any info or tips then i should be only too happy to help if i am
able.

DaveM
TigerRace1 - 22 Jan 2004 03:09 GMT
<<My word, i have touched some nerves in here have'nt i......>>

In my case, I just have a really low threshold for annoyance. It's quite easy
to trigger.

<<What does it matter if a "dumb arse" asks questions in here or anywhere for
that matter, he may just be a "dumb arse" and cant help it....if he is then
either help him or leave the poor guy alone.>>

Ah, you must be a devotee of the Goddess Ignora. She doesn't have many
followers here. We tend to speak right up, no matter how inane the topic is.

<<This conference or whatever its called is not yours, it does not belong to
you or any of you....>>

Yada, yada, yada... We were here first. We reserve the right to set the tone
for newbies and if they don't like the atmosphere, they're free to take their
dishes and doilies and go home. <eg>

<<over the past 2 years (its not a burning issue you see) i have visited
Ferrari Car dealers, telephoned Cartiers, looked on countless websites, and
google is my default home page......all to no avail, perhaps i used the wrong
keywords at the time....>>

Didn't you know the name of the watch? Did you ever plug that into a search
engine? I just don't see how this could be so difficult for you.

<<Manila is very warm and humid, it is also very, very inexpensive, for
shopping (the ladies would love this)...

i hope you all enjoy reading this one>>

Except for that bit of stereotyping, the story was quite enjoyable. Next time,
toss a car or two in there just to keep it on topic.  ;-)

C.
Dave Morgan - 22 Jan 2004 13:49 GMT
>  Next time,
> toss a car or two in there just to keep it on topic.  ;-)

I'll try.....;^)
Dave
MC - 20 Jan 2004 17:54 GMT
> As for this conference, there are hundreds of newsgroups and conferences,
> i am a participant in a number of them, where i can answer questions for
> other folk i do so, i dont mind at all, sometimes people need to just "pop
> in" and ask......nothing wrong with that.....

Well, not wanting to appear to back away from my initial stance (as I do
just that), my moods do kind of swing pretty wildly.  On a different day
I might have just put in the link without a word, or even with nice words.

As Tiger indicated, Time Products appears to at least be able to field
your questions, and I'll go one step further than her post:

Time Products Luxury LTD
23, Grosvenor Street
London W1K 4QL

Tel:  0044 2074 164 160
Fax:  0044 2074 164 161

E-mail:  feedback@timeproducts.co.uk
Dean For America, 2004 - 20 Jan 2004 19:07 GMT
>> As for this conference, there are hundreds of newsgroups and conferences,
>> i am a participant in a number of them, where i can answer questions for
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>E-mail:  feedback@timeproducts.co.uk

Is anyone else disgusted by the appearance of one who would purchase a
$10k watch, but who can't operate a f.cking phonebook?
MC - 20 Jan 2004 21:37 GMT
> Is anyone else disgusted by the appearance of one who would purchase a
> $10k watch, but who can't operate a f.cking phonebook?

The funny thing is, in days of yore I would be the same, and in most
cases legitimate, thorn-in-the-side that you are.  So many things are so
goddamned obvious, and yet when one brings it out in the open they get
shot down.  Some days I am more than willing to fight, other days I just
pack it in.  I mean, I wonder sometimes about the pretty small group of
regular contributors on this board.  Do I (and perhaps you, and perhaps
Tiger, and so on), like members of other boards have dutifully told me
over and over again, chase away people who could really contribute?  I,
who does not even own a Ferrari?  Past Exhibit A: A guy wanders in here
and asks which Ferrari would be best to shuttle business clients around
in, I take umbrage, and I get blasted to hell (no, I'm not putting this
to the fire again, just an example).

It's enough to make me unsubscribe from the group every once in awhile
and just forget about it - the same way I do with my entire computer
also.  But I come back here because I feel like I have some legitimate
pals here and I like hearing what they have to say.  I'm smart enough
and knowledgeble enough about Ferraris to be able to contribute
information and to find info for others.  Whether or not there are
hordes of mecahnically competent, Ferrari-owning aristocrats here is not
important to me.

Some days, I realize how important the Internet can really be.  The rest
of the time, I know that it is kind of like an electronic version of
Grand Central Station or St. Mark's Square - at any given moment,
teeming with people.  A large part of them will be utter idiots,
incapable of logical thought.  But a few will be smart, funny, and
likeable.  Sometimes both groups mingle, too - it can't be avoided.

You have been here quite awhile, on and off.  You were here when I first
started here.  I think you are quite intelligent and a perfect fit here.
Others do not.  But I do not think you should stop saying what you feel
like saying because of criticism or argument.
TigerRace1 - 22 Jan 2004 02:57 GMT
<<Is anyone else disgusted by the  ppearance of one who would purchase a $10k
watch, but who can't operate a f.cking phonebook? >>

No, it's just you.

C. :::who thought that being annoyed was already a bit of a stretch:::
Dave Morgan - 22 Jan 2004 13:49 GMT
> being annoyed was already a bit of a stretch

Sod it.......I'll go and buy a Swatch.

Dave
Dean For America, 2004 - 20 Jan 2004 19:05 GMT
>> well--aren't we cheeky?
>>  here's one on ebay.  very stylish, and priced right for the true collector
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>question after dumb question - but never recompensed by offering
>anything for us to mull over or debate.

Honest debate is clearly frowned upon here:  Accept The Wisdom of The
Pooh-Bahs, without question, is clearly the preferred method of
discourse, for some.
Iain Miller - 21 Jan 2004 00:10 GMT
> Honest debate is clearly frowned upon here:  Accept The Wisdom of The
> Pooh-Bahs, without question, is clearly the preferred method of
> discourse, for some.

Bollox (!)

I.
TigerRace1 - 21 Jan 2004 01:53 GMT
<<Honest debate is clearly frowned upon here>>

Oh, *clearly*. Shall we look forward to your BES soon then?

C.
Dean For America, 2004 - 23 Jan 2004 15:43 GMT
><<Honest debate is clearly frowned upon here>>
>
>Oh, *clearly*. Shall we look forward to your BES soon then?

It's considered proper to define non-standard abbreviations the first
time they are used, or did you mean to say "the Egyptian god of music
and revelry"?
TigerRace1 - 25 Jan 2004 20:46 GMT
<<It's considered proper to define non-standard abbreviations the first time
they are used>>

Reference to a Brave Exit Speech is fairly standard on most of the boards that
I frequent.

<<or did you mean to say "the Egyptian god of music and revelry"?>>

Not my pantheon, but I believe that if you're going to refer to Bes' domain,
you shouldn't leave out His protection of women and children.

C.
gary! - 21 Jan 2004 00:28 GMT
> > well--aren't we cheeky?
> >  here's one on ebay.  very stylish, and priced right for the true collector
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> question after dumb question - but never recompensed by offering
> anything for us to mull over or debate.

of course i noticed that.  just having some cheeky fun.  we all get so
serious sometimes...i for one, woud be that idiot who would find outlandish,
cheap stuff on ebay and sport it to a rally.
 
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