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Car Forum / Ferrari Cars / March 2004Miami Vice and their Ferraris
Hi all, In the early Miami Vice TV show, they used a Daytona Spider, from what I understand it wasn't real. However, in the later shows, they do have a real Testa Rossa (I guess it's a 1984 cuz it has the single mirror that sticks wayyyyyyy out, which is the one I prefer ;). But in other scenes, they use a stunt double car, with totally different wheels, the car doesn't even look the same. I mean, who were they trying to fool!?!? The wheels were a dead giveaway, being deep dish polish jobs. ?? I watch Magnum PI just to see lovely shots of the 308 ;) > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I watch Magnum PI just to see lovely shots of the 308 ;) I always liked that white Testy, too. It helped me along on my way to full-blown Ferrarimania. In fact, I thought it fit the "times" and the "show type" better than the phony Daytona. MC > > Hi all, > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > MC Remember now Ferrari North America gave Miami Vice two black Testarossas. But they wouldn't show up in night scenes so they had to paint them both white. The stunt car was actually a Pantera Detomaso with parts grafted on from a (get this) wrecked Testarossa shutter. This was all detailed in Popular Mechanics July 1987. http://www.ferrariclub.com/faq/miamivice.html And now I won't digress and say how much I dislike the Maranello. I am a TESTAROSSA PURIST to the core. D.H. > And now I won't digress and say how much I dislike the Maranello. > > I am a TESTAROSSA PURIST to the core. I was also. But I came to love the Maranello more. To me it seems to pack more into a more elegant package than the 512, which I do believe is beginning to date itself ... interestingly I still love the F512M as a great and untterly current looking car, there's something about that final model ... MC > > And now I won't digress and say how much I dislike the Maranello. > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > MC MC What year is the final model? Where should I look to find the major changes in reliability, or interior comfort. I'm starting the half serious effort to get one of these some day in the future-- figure two to three years, and I'd like to get the best of the breed. Larry the Viper traitor. > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > It came out in 1994-95. I found hardly any links via Google, and looking through my Ferrari links I also didn't find much. You could certainly contact Mike Sheehan via email, he doesn't mind answering questions and giving info. Be forewarned, if you buy one from him it may be the most expensive (but probably the choicest) of any lot you've checked out. It's far and away my favorite Testy, followed by the 512TR (basically backwards from the last year ...). It just looked so much better, so much less dated. I can't tell you much about interior changes, but these links should help. http://www.ferrariforum.net/models/view/models.php?modelid=119 http://www.ferraris-online.com/index.shtml MC <<The stunt car was actually a Pantera Detomaso with parts grafted on from a (get this) wrecked Testarossa shutter.>> That explains why you heard a V8 screaming whenever the *Testarossa* was in motion. C. > <<The stunt car was actually a Pantera Detomaso with parts grafted on from a > (get this) wrecked Testarossa shutter.>> > > That explains why you heard a V8 screaming whenever the *Testarossa* was in > motion. C. The buddy I bought my Viper from has a collection of Panteras. I think he has 351 Clevelands in at least one of them, but it sounds like a LOT more engine than a V-8. > <<The stunt car was actually a Pantera Detomaso with parts grafted on from a > (get this) wrecked Testarossa shutter.>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > C. Sometimes we heard the Flat-12 though right? What about when Crockette accelerated after that fight with Kaitlyn during the episode with that female serial killer? D.H. >>That explains why you heard a V8 screaming whenever the *Testarossa* was > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > D.H. Though I do not have Mr. Halpern's astute memory of "MV" episodes, I concur that (IMO) the sound of a boxer engine was heard when the white Testarossa was being driven in normal (non-stunt). That was no V8, not even close. I know you have had close personal proximity to a 512, but I have too, just not as much as you. I wish I could back this up with links, but I couldn't find any. MC <<Though I do not have Mr. Halpern's astute memory of "MV" episodes, I concur that (IMO) the sound of a boxer engine was heard when the white Testarossa was being driven in normal (non-stunt). That was no V8, not even close. I know you have had close personal proximity to a 512, but I have too, just not as much as you.>> I've never spent much time around the various iterations of TRs, only the first Testarossa from '84-85 and those were damned quiet when made street legal for this country. Even when aftermarket pipes are used on them, they still don't make a lot of noise. Uncorking one completely will let the Boxer engine sing, but I would bet money that they never did that for the show. If you remember hearing an actual TR during some episodes, then perhaps you did. I just don't have the same recollection, but only remember hearing the distinct sound of American Iron during some scenes. C. > > <<The stunt car was actually a Pantera Detomaso with parts grafted on from > a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > What about when Crockette accelerated after that fight with Kaitlyn during > the episode with that female serial killer? You can remember the individual plots and scenes from Miami Vice? Sheesh (!) You need to get out more! <BG> I. <<Sometimes we heard the Flat-12 though right? What about when Crockette accelerated after that fight with Kaitlyn during the episode with that female serial killer?>> LOL! I watched Miami Vice on a semi-regular basis, but I barely remember the lead characters names, let alone much about any of the episodes. <g> All I can tell you is that I don't ever remember hearing the sound of an actual Testarossa while watching that show. C. > <<Sometimes we heard the Flat-12 though right? > What about when Crockette accelerated after that fight with Kaitlyn during the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > C. lol well I have always had somewhat of a stunning long-term memory. But it also sucks because I remember how many decades I have wanted a Ferrari. Still working on it just need to get my degree first with not much help from Gonzaga. D.H. > lol well I have always had somewhat of a stunning > long-term memory. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Still working on it just need to get my degree first with not much help from > Gonzaga. It's always the school's fault ... ;-) I cursed CSUF for the parties they wrought and the evil drug pushers who lurked on and off campus. Ah - Gonzaga! Former collegiate home of John Stockton, the man who took Magic Johson's assist record away ... jk ... props to Johnnie, I loved watching him play the game. Hate to bust that bubble though, David - a degree will probably end up helping you get that Ferrari about as much as a tin of Spam. And I hope it isn't a law degree you're chasing - this world is floating in lawyers already. MC > > lol well I have always had somewhat of a stunning > > long-term memory. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > MC No actually :) I want to be a Nanophotonic Engineer. Best, D.H. > No actually :) I want to be a Nanophotonic Engineer. Oh ... great. Nanotechnology - the End Of The World! http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/joy_pr.html MC > > No actually :) I want to be a Nanophotonic Engineer. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > MC Or computers and optical networks running at 5-10 Billion times the bandwidth they have now. And an cure to many diseases :) D.H. >>>No actually :) I want to be a Nanophotonic Engineer. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > D.H. More bandwidth? So what. So much of the bandwidth available even now is totally wasted. But did you read the article? Are you going to sneer at Bill Joy or Ray Kurzweil? We won't be able to control the technology even as we are still developing it. We are barely ... and only barely ... keeping a leash on nuclear weaponry in this world. Any time now the catastrophe we keep fearing is going to happen. And now we should develop the capability to miniaturize it and yet not keep it from proliferating? I'd be more than willing to bet something bad will come of it well before anything like a cure for a major disease ever arrives. Call me a Luddite all you want - nanotechnology and the science of developing it is just another of many pathways to doom the industry of science wishes to foist upon us. We would do better without it. MC <<We are barely ... and only barely ... keeping a leash on nuclear weaponry in this world. Any time now the catastrophe we keep fearing is going to happen.>> You're not getting invited to many parties lately, now are you? C. :::squirting Silly String at Mikey's black cloud::: > <<We are barely ... and only barely ... keeping a leash on nuclear weaponry in > this world. Any time now the catastrophe we keep fearing is going to happen.>> > > You're not getting invited to many parties lately, now are you? > > C. :::squirting Silly String at Mikey's black cloud::: Boy, do I need some Silly String! I still get to a party here and there ... the last one I went to was a tattoo party - I declined to be inked, but maybe next time ... ;-) MC > But did you read the article? Are you going to sneer at Bill Joy or > Ray Kurzweil? We won't be able to control the technology even as we [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > industry of science wishes to foist upon us. We would do better > without it. Now combine nanotechnology with biotechnology and add AI to the mix.. and we have miniature thinking, living nukes running round ;) Best Wishes Thomas *whistling the theme from Twilight Zone* > > No actually :) I want to be a Nanophotonic Engineer. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > MC Maybe so but remember Bipolar Hegemony (the U.S. and U.S.S.R.) was a relatively stable period of World history and both sides had enormous stockpiles of nuclear weapons. Having weapons doesn't always mean they will be used, you should read the Roman historian Tacitus. D.H. > Maybe so but remember Bipolar Hegemony (the U.S. and U.S.S.R.) was a > relatively stable period of World history and both sides had enormous > stockpiles of nuclear weapons. <caution: politics> Yeah. There were no conflicts at all during that period... just an average of 12 wars being fought on any day, with both superpowers either directly involved or backing a fair few of them. If having huge stocks of weapons ensures stability, what was that Iraq thing about? (I'm sure the estimated 10,000* killed would have been pleased to know that they had lived in a stable world) *Source: UK ex cabinet minister. Figure relates only to Iraqi deaths and is an estimate because neither the US nor the UK government will tell us how many people were killed in Iraq. <normal service resumed> If you buy a Testarossa, do you have to wear a sports jacket with the sleeves rolled up? ;-) MCPD  SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk (Now featuring the a.a.f. directory) > > Maybe so but remember Bipolar Hegemony (the U.S. and U.S.S.R.) was a > > relatively stable period of World history and both sides had enormous [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > MCPD I want to buy a Testarossa or 512TR new since I don't like used items. Yes you are true there was the downside of all the proxy wars but imagine WW3? Maybe Ferrari will bring the 512TR back someday? D.H. > If you buy a Testarossa, do you have to wear a sports jacket with the > sleeves rolled up? ;-) Only if you have tanned and hairy forearms. Otherwise, just dye your hair and - *only* if you have a thick rug on the chest - open your shirt 'til the belly. SignatureJC > Maybe so but remember Bipolar Hegemony (the U.S. and U.S.S.R.) was a > relatively stable period of World history and both sides had enormous > stockpiles of nuclear weapons. > > Having weapons doesn't always mean they will be used, you should read > the Roman historian Tacitus. Relatively stable I guess, but stability out of fear. Now the situation is way different and noone know how many of teh former USSR nukes are missing and unaccounted for, weapons that might end up in less friendly and stable hands. When natio face nation retaliation might be a deterrent, but when nations stand against individual terrorist with destructive powers like these on their hands? True, the existance of a weapon doesn't mean it will be sued, but when you mix political agendas with religious fanatisiscm and desperation the likelihood increases, and as long as the wepaons exist they CAN be used. Best Wishes Thomas *ranting* > True, the existance of a weapon doesn't mean it will be sued Just as well, you know what these Amricans are like when they get their lawyers involved ;-) -Paul SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk (Now featuring the a.a.f. directory) >> True, the existance of a weapon doesn't mean it will be sued > >Just as well, you know what these Amricans are like when they get their >lawyers involved ;-) ??? ...Forget to beat your wife this morning? > > True, the existance of a weapon doesn't mean it will be sued > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > Http://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk (Now featuring the a.a.f. directory) You shut yer damn yapper before I sue you, you limey sh.t... -Matt- "Here come da judge, and I don't mean a Pontiac." matt borland wrote: >>> True, the existance of a weapon doesn't mean it will be sued >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You shut yer damn yapper before I sue you, you > limey sh.t... Flash news: "A US group under the name "The Boston Tea Club" is today filing charges against a british bussinessman. The group is suying him over a claimed late/non delivery of tea to said group." In reply the representative of the company answered: "This is a non issue, we delivered the tea, and look how they thanked us..." Best Wishes Thomas >> True, the existance of a weapon doesn't mean it will be sued > > Just as well, you know what these Amricans are like when they get > their lawyers involved ;-) DOH! Damn my typing is sloppy!! Best Wishes Thomas > > lol well I have always had somewhat of a stunning > > long-term memory. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > MC Yeah, but I got out, so there's room for one more. > <<Sometimes we heard the Flat-12 though right? > What about when Crockette accelerated after that fight with Kaitlyn during the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > C. Hey you I was checking your website Tiger Race you seem to be a very accomplished racer. Cool :)). D.H. <<Hey you I was checking your website Tiger Race you seem to be a very accomplished racer.>> Why, thank you, but I actually hope to *accomplish* quite a bit more than I have so far. This year is going to be even more brutal than last year, but the car is coming together. If I can just make it thru Sebring and get back on some tracks that I know... C. ><<Sometimes we heard the Flat-12 though right? >What about when Crockette accelerated after that fight with Kaitlyn during the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >C. You remembered correctly. The "stunt" TR was actually a Pantera with body mods to make it look like a TR. Had skid plates and such underneath. MH >><<Sometimes we heard the Flat-12 though right? >>What about when Crockette accelerated after that fight with Kaitlyn during the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > MH Yeah, I believe you and the other guy who said that, Mike, but you keep making sure we know it was the "stunt" car. There were other Testarossas provided to the show and used in its filming, therefore I am still absolutely convinced that many times during the filming of the show a 12-cylinder 512 was driven and heard in the televised product. I don't buy the idea that all I was ever listening to was a V-8, especially a Pantera V-8. Yes, I know what exhaust systems can do to the sound of a car, and yes, I understand what television sound engineers can do, too, but I've heard/seen no evidence that either methodology was employed to turn the sound of a Pantera into the sound I heard. NO WAY. *Prove* me otherwise, and I'll gladly STFU. I've got plenty of time to search for a definitive answer and I haven't found one, so I'm sticking with my gut (prodigious - but FIRM - one that it is!) MC (The silent question ANSWERED - yes, I've cut back on my medication. I've decided I'd rather be the fairly animated and cheerful - and occasionally obnoxious - person I was for most of my life instead of the perpetually horrible, negative, suicidal sleep addict I had recently become. The psychiatric/psychotherapeutic INDUSTRY can kiss my a.s. However, I will endeavor to quell the psycho troll-killer whose finger occasionally hit Caps Lock and who wrote The New Book Of Profanity. Maybe not for Mikal, and possibly Hobbes - they get my all - but for others who stumble by and make the horrible mistake of not knowing 100% what they're talking about - like none of us have ever done that - I will try to keep the howitzer covered. It's either that or back to the 1800mg a day.) << I don't buy the idea that all I was ever listening to was a V-8, especially a Pantera V-8. Yes, I know what exhaust systems can do to the sound of a car, and yes, I understand what television sound engineers can do, too, but I've heard/seen no evidence that either methodology was employed to turn the sound of a Pantera into the sound I heard. NO WAY.>> Well, what did you hear? The '85 TR was awfully, awfully quiet even at full throttle. I don't remember hearing one on Miami Vice. C. >> You remembered correctly. The "stunt" TR was actually a Pantera with >> body mods to make it look like a TR. Had skid plates and such [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >search for a definitive answer and I haven't found one, so I'm sticking >with my gut (prodigious - but FIRM - one that it is!) You're not incorrect. If I recall reading about it, Ferrari actually provided them with a white TR on the condition they did away with the Daytona replica. As to the sound, I have no idea. MH > >> You remembered correctly. The "stunt" TR was actually a Pantera with > >> body mods to make it look like a TR. Had skid plates and such [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > MH It sounded like the deep baritone note during acceleration. The interior of the car was rather Testarossa, did they graft a TR interior into the Pantera stunt car? Just during Crockette's normal daily driving you would have to hear the Flat-12 of the real TR at least I would think? The engine sounded kind of high and musical yet contained with the upshifts. D.H. <<It sounded like the deep baritone note during acceleration... Just during Crockette's normal daily driving you would have to hear the Flat-12 of the real TR at least I would think? The engine sounded kind of high and musical yet contained with the upshifts.>> There is nothing *baritone* about the sound of a flat 12. That second description could be it though. They really are quiet motors though. C. > <<It sounded like the deep baritone note during acceleration... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > C. All my reading of Road & Track during that era said the Flat-12 did have a pronounced baritone note? Though I know you have more experience in the Ferrari engine realm so maybe I am wrong. D.H. > > <<It sounded like the deep baritone note during acceleration... > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > D.H. A related question: Is the engine revving in the beginning of Sir Mix-A-Lot's song "Testarossa" indeed a flat 12? It's high pitched, and sounds nothing like a V8. -Matt- "???" "matt borland" <mborland@columbus.rr.com> wrote > Is the engine revving in the beginning of Sir Mix-A-Lot's > song "Testarossa" indeed a flat 12? It's high pitched, and > sounds nothing like a V8. Sir Mix-A-Lot, huh? Don't you *ever* criticize my choice in music ;-) -Paul (looking forward to ONE DAY getting Matt's listing for the a.a.f register... and discovering what other great works inspire him.) > "matt borland" <mborland@columbus.rr.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > (looking forward to ONE DAY getting Matt's listing for the > a.a.f register... and discovering what other great works inspire him.) The man was insightful, he liked big butts, and he could not lie. Sort of an early 90's George Washington. -Matt- "Listing coming soon." <<Is the engine revving in the beginning of Sir Mix-A-Lot's song "Testarossa" indeed a flat 12? It's high pitched, and sounds nothing like a V8.>> LOL! I dunno, I've never heard it. C. > <<Is the engine revving in the beginning of Sir Mix-A-Lot's song "Testarossa" > indeed a flat 12? It's high pitched, and sounds nothing like a V8.>> > > LOL! I dunno, I've never heard it. > > C. I figured it might be the real thing as you hear the door shut and an odd mix of warning buzzers sound, nothing like what you'd expect from a canned "sportscar sounds" reel, then he starts it and immediately revs the daylights out of the thing. (I tell myself he warmed it up before taping the track, helps me sleep better.) If it were being faked you'd expect a more aggressive, muscular sound instead of the refined machinery noises on the album. In other news I browsed ferrarichat.com for the 1st time. Not bad, pretty good board. Typical board minus the teenyboppers with the 400meg sigs, quite a few owners on it. Lots of Gallardo fans there. -Matt- "!" matt borland wrote: > In other news I browsed ferrarichat.com for the 1st time. You bastard. After everything we've been through together... Does this mean NOTHING to you? All the years we've put into making this thing work? We've had our ups and downs for sure, but everybody does! That's not the point - the point is that we care for each other, we're there for each other come what may! but now.. <sniff> ..now it comes to this. Along comes some sweet little chat group and you can't stop yourself, can you? You just can't resist it. Oh theres 'quite a few owners on it' are there? Well, that just about says it all! I hope you're happy! <walks out. Slams door behind> Paul SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk (Now featuring the a.a.f. directory) <<I hope you're happy! <walks out. Slams door behind> Paul>> Now you've done. He's left in a huff. No good can come from this. C. :::who wonders if Euro huffs are anything like American huffs::: > Now you've done. He's left in a huff. No good can come from this. > > C. :::who wonders if Euro huffs are anything like American huffs::: The Euro huff is currently slightly stronger than the American Huff, however the British Huff (you have to remember that Britain has yet to opt in to the Euro Huff - partly because the French are so strong in this area) is worth nearly two American Huffs. So, as you can see, it makes sense for any irritable English people to have their Huffs in America, where they will have twice the impact as they would have had, had they Huffed at home. HTH Paul P.S. The world Huffing record is jointly held by a team of Parisien waiters. Demonstrations of this Gold Medal winning Huff can be had simply by failing to have made up your mind by the time they come over to take your order. C'est vrai, non, J.C. ? ;-) SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk (Now featuring the a.a.f. directory) > P.S. The world Huffing record is jointly held by a team of Parisien waiters. > Demonstrations of this Gold Medal winning Huff can be had simply by failing > to have made up your mind by the time they come over to take your order. > > C'est vrai, non, J.C. ? ;-) That's perfectly right. This is part of their basic training, together with not noticing any client who frantically waves hands to get his order/drink/bill/whatever. SignatureJ.C. <<That's perfectly right. This is part of their basic training, together with not noticing any client who frantically waves hands to get his order/drink/bill/whatever.>> <sigh> Tell me again why I'm going to France? Oh, that's right... to watch my damned Crew Chief drive the 512 at Le Mans. C. > <<That's perfectly right. This is part of their basic training, together with > not noticing any client who frantically waves hands to get his > order/drink/bill/whatever.>> > > <sigh> Tell me again why I'm going to France? To drink gallons of good wine? To eat some good food? To visit Paris? > Oh, that's right... to watch my > damned Crew Chief drive the 512 at Le Mans. If you want a revenge, just make him drive around the "Place de l'Etoile" in Paris, that should frighten him enough to regret he hadn't stayed home. SignatureJ.C. <<To drink gallons of good wine?>> Not a bad idea. <<To eat some good food?>> Ya know, up until about a week ago, I would have laughed this off. I didn't think that I liked French food. Then my Crew Chief and I were stumbling thru the city of Brea, looking for someplace to grab something to eat before we went to a movie and we found this quaint, little French restaurant. It's styled after a country cottage and it's owned by a gentleman who immigrated here about 40 yrs ago. It was a bit pricey, but the service was excellent, the portions were substantial and it was DELICIOUS! Not at all what I thought French food was like. I no longer believe that I will starve while overseas. <<To visit Paris?>> The only thing of any interest to me in Paris is the Louvre, and the only thing of any interest to me there is one statue, that of Victory of Samothrace. Seems a bit of a waste, eh? <<If you want a revenge, just make him drive around the "Place de l'Etoile" in Paris, that should frighten him enough to regret he hadn't stayed home.>> Well, considering the fact that he's a professional driver and that he's been whizzing around Los Angeles freeways for over a year now, I doubt he'd be all that a-scared at the thought. Might be interesting though. C. > <<To eat some good food?>> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > DELICIOUS! Not at all what I thought French food was like. I no longer > believe that I will starve while overseas. Food is the major topic of conversation here in France, and the first thing (if any) from which we get a sense of national pride. The first question which any French coming back from abroad will be asked is 'How was the food like?' (the second one generally relates to another kind of earthly pleasures, but I won't deal with this when talking to a lady) So you'll definitely not starve. But beware of those cheeses of ours, some are really dreadful for an untrained mouth. > <<To visit Paris?>> > > The only thing of any interest to me in Paris is the Louvre, and the only > thing of any interest to me there is one statue, that of Victory of > Samothrace. Seems a bit of a waste, eh? Sure does. But if you have some spare time, go and have a look to Versailles, it is really impressive. > <<If you want a revenge, just make him drive around the "Place de > l'Etoile" in Paris, that should frighten him enough to regret he hadn't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > been whizzing around Los Angeles freeways for over a year now, I doubt > he'd be all that a-scared at the thought. Might be interesting though. That's a place I avoid when I'm with the F355, and I've been daily driving in Paris for 15 years now... Anyway, that's a pity I'm on holiday at the time of the race, I would have been glad to pop over. SignatureJ.C. <<Food is the major topic of conversation here in France, and the first thing (if any) from which we get a sense of national pride.>> I've been struggling with my weight for yrs now. I literally had NO appetite and haven't been able to keep weight on. I've finally found a medication that stimulates my appetite and I'm enjoying eating food again. Such a relief. I just reached my goal weight and am actually thinking that I need to start being careful about not gaining anymore. We're taking the folks to that French restaurant that I mentioned tonight. I plan on eating an entire souffle by myself. <g> <<Sure does. But if you have some spare time, go and have a look to Versailles, it is really impressive.>> I'm hoping that we'll have some tour guides while we're there. EuroPaul? <<Anyway, that's a pity I'm on holiday at the time of the race, I would have been glad to pop over.>> Well, now wait. Are you quite certain that you're gone the entire time? And we will be staying for at least another week, either before or after the race. After, I should think. Surely we can all get together at some point. C. > I'm hoping that we'll have some tour guides while we're there. EuroPaul? At your service, madame. <<At your service, madame.>> Ooh, goody! C. > Ya know, up until about a week ago, I would have laughed this off. I didn't > think that I liked French food. Then my Crew Chief and I were stumbling thru > the city of Brea, looking for someplace to grab something to eat before we went [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > were substantial and it was DELICIOUS! Not at all what I thought French food > was like. I no longer believe that I will starve while overseas. Are we talking La Vie en Rose, perhaps? A very fine establishment, indeed. Back in my wine-salesman days I shared a glass or two with the owner. Or three. MC <<Are we talking La Vie en Rose, perhaps? A very fine establishment, indeed. Yes, we are and yes, it is! <<Back in my wine-salesman days I shared a glass or two with the owner. Or three.>> You sold wine? So it's your fault that I didn't recognize most of the wines on that list? I know diddly squat about French wines and most of the California wines they had on the menu were over $70. I freakin' hate restaurant markups on wine. Pisses me off when I know that I can get a case for what they are charging for a couple of bottles. C. > <<Are we talking La Vie en Rose, perhaps? A very fine establishment, indeed. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > C. That was a long time ago - heh, back in the days of two-times-retail markups. Those days are long gone. I'm not supposed to drink a whole lot, if any, so when I do it's usually beer or that special Scotch moment. But my wine tastes are still all snobby as hell, but I don't have any money trees growing here, so my wine appreciation moments these days are few and far between. MC <<my wine tastes are still all snobby as hell>> I really don'tknow squat aboutwine. Imanage tonot embarass myself, <<my wine tastes are still all snobby as hell>> I really don't know squat about wine.I manage to not embarass myself by just buying bottles that I've seen my parents buy. <g> C. > <<That's perfectly right. This is part of their basic training, together with > not noticing any client who frantically waves hands to get his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > C. Hey if you need a friend TigerRace ;). But a guy can always dream. D.H. <<Hey if you need a friend TigerRace ;). But a guy can always dream.>> Friends I can use, but I don't need anyone else lining up to horn in on the pretty cars. I'm quite jealous enough as it is, thank you very much. C. :::who doesn't think anybody should be able to drive the 512 F if she can't::: > Hey if you need a friend TigerRace ;). > But a guy can always dream. Somebody stop him before he uses her real name. Things haven't been nuclear around here for ... a month or so. MC <<Somebody stop him before he uses her real name. Things haven't been nuclear around here for ... a month or so.>> Heh. C. > > Now you've done. He's left in a huff. No good can come from this. > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Paul Then there's the Marxist Huff: (Groucho Marx, that is): You can leave in a taxi. If you can't get a taxi, you can leave in a huff. If that's too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff. -- Speaker for the D00d (They say that the sun never sets on the British Empire ... ... because even God doesn't trust the English in the dark.) ;^) > Then there's the Marxist Huff: (Groucho Marx, that is): > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > (They say that the sun never sets on the British Empire ... > ... because even God doesn't trust the English in the dark.) ;^) "You've got the brain of a four-year-old boy, and I'll bet he was glad to get rid of it." "Why, I'd horse-whip you if I had a horse." "A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five!" Paul SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk (Now featuring the a.a.f. directory - Where's YOUR entry Mr Speaker? huh?) <<P.S. The world Huffing record is jointly held by a team of Parisien waiters. Demonstrations of this Gold Medal winning Huff can be had simply by failing to have made up your mind by the time they come over to take your order.>> Something to look forward to on my upcoming trip. C. > matt borland wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > Http://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk (Now featuring the a.a.f. directory) Awwww crap. Would you feel better if I sent you my listing for the registry? Paulo? Paul? Master P? Hey, I know the finger when I see it! Now you're just being childish! -Matt- "Yeesh, these Brits..." matt borland wrote: > Awwww crap. > > Would you feel better if I sent you my listing for the > registry? Sure. That would be much better... <checks e-mail> Ah-ha, here it is... I wonder what Matt looks like... <Click-click> ARGGGHHH!!! MY EYES! MY EYES! MAKE IT GO AWAY! SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk (Now featuring the a.a.f. directory) > matt borland wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > -- > Http://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk (Now featuring the a.a.f. directory) Heh heh heh... -Matt- "The pic is not really of me." matt borland wrote: > -Matt- "The pic is not really of me." Yes it is. Stop lying. MC > matt borland wrote: > > > -Matt- "The pic is not really of me." > > Yes it is. Stop lying. Could be me in ten years... Who knows, maybe I'll grow back the mullet I had in high school... -Matt- "..." <<If it were being faked you'd expect a more aggressive, muscular sound instead of the refined machinery noises on the album.>> Ya know, I think I'm going to mosey next door sometime today and start up the TR to see what it sounds like. I'm all curious now if I'm remembering things correctly. C. > <<If it were being faked you'd expect a more aggressive, muscular sound instead > of the refined machinery noises on the album.>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > C. Must be nice to have such unfettered access to certain Italian automobiles Tiger lol. D.H. <<Must be nice to have such unfettered access to certain Italian automobiles>> Oh, it is. But never fear, I'm well aware of how nice it is. :-) C. <<All my reading of Road & Track during that era said the Flat-12 did have a pronounced baritone note? Though I know you have more experience in the Ferrari engine realm so maybe I am wrong.>> Huh... I don't honestly remember reading much about the TR. I never liked the car. <g> I do want to stress that most of my experience with them has been with one car in particular and it was a street legal car that was brought in grey market. Maybe that's it. Perhaps Dad's car has a slightly different tone than the cars that were imported directly. Muffled, the car was very, very quiet. It does have a low tone, but I still can't think of it as *baritone*. Uncorked, running with straight pipes it had a much happier sound. I haven't heard a Testarossa on the street or on the track in ages. I'm going to have to pay attention the next time I do. I'm starting to doubt my own memory. I would think that T308 would be able to address this topic easily, but he's apparently off thinking about getting married to some strange woman that none of us know anything about. Gods! You guys don't think she's one of those woman that's not into cars, do you?? C. :::perishing a little at the thought::: > Just during Crockette's normal daily driving you would have to hear > the Flat-12 of the real TR at least I would think? > The engine sounded kind of high and musical yet contained with the upshifts. That's when I heard it, and only then. MC > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I watch Magnum PI just to see lovely shots of the 308 ;) When I would watch Magnum, I used to always have a tape in the VCR just to record the 308 action scenes. Anyway, supposedly they are going to be making a Magnum P.I movie...I wonder what kind of Ferrari TM will be driving? I guess he wouldn't look too shabby in a 360 Spyder ;) OK - enough with the winking happy faces, eh? No (c:,' |
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