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Allah, is not so great...

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F2004: 5 of 5 - 18 May 2004 17:48 GMT
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> IRELAND: Man claims Allah told him to destroy Ferrari
> 16/05/04 00:00
> By Susan Mitchell
>
> A Dublin businessman awoke last Wednesday morning to find that his
> brand new e200,000 Ferrari had been destroyed by a man claiming to
> have been instructed by Allah.
>
> According to the gardai , Safet Bukoshi from Kosovo, who is in his
> mid-30s, began his rampage early last Wednesday morning when he set
> the Ferrari and a Honda Civic on fire.
>
> Two fire brigades arrived at the scene in Clonskeagh, south Dublin,
> after two loud explosions were heard by local residents. Both cars
> were destroyed in the blasts.
>
> As garda forensic experts examined the scene
> later that morning, Bukoshi, who lives in Clonskeagh, returned with
> petrol cans and began to douse petrol on more vehicles, including his
> own wife's car. He was apprehended after the forensics team called
> local gardai. Bukoshi claimed Allah had told him to set the cars on
> fire. He was detained by gardai, who have recommended that he be
> charged with criminal damage at the Circuit Court.
>
> District Superintendent Liam McCahey described it as ``a most unusual
> incident''.
>
> He said Bukoshi had been remanded in custody in Clover Hill prison in
> Clondalkin, where he had been given a psychiatric assessment.
>
> According to gardai,Bukoshi, who claimed he was an Albanian, has lived
> in Ireland for about five years. He and his Kosovar wife have four
> children.
>
> ``He has not come to our attention before,''said McCahey.
>
> ``He will first be charged with setting fire to the Ferrari and will
> then be charged separately for the Honda Civic.We will probably seek
> to prosecute him in the Circuit Court.''
TigerRace1 - 18 May 2004 20:02 GMT
<<Man claims Allah told him to destroy Ferrari>>

Yes, but... WHY?

C.
Phil - 18 May 2004 21:27 GMT
><<Man claims Allah told him to destroy Ferrari>>
>
>Yes, but... WHY?
>
>C.

Top 5 reasons:

1 - Allah doesn't like the idea the emblem is a horse, he wants it to
be a camel.
2 - Head scarfs (turbins, whatever they are called) fly off easily due
to the open top and speeds at which Ferraris travel.
3 - Muslim husbands don't like to use their Ferraris to chase down and
run over their wives because it get's the undercarriages of the
Ferrari all dirty.
4 - It's against Sharia Law to use petrol that could instead be sold
to the Americans to raise money to kill Americans and to attend
American schools.
5 - When it breaks down or causes the driver to get a traffic
violation, you can't really stone a Ferrari to death unless you had a
really really big rock, and it is too difficult to hit with a hijacked
747.

Phil
TigerRace1 - 19 May 2004 00:55 GMT
<<Top 5 reasons:>>

<sigh> For the sake of our friendship, I'm going to ignore this racist rant and
chalk it up to some sort of Republican brainwashing.

Except for this one...

<<1 - Allah doesn't like the idea the emblem is a horse, he wants it to be a
camel.>>

You forget how much Arabian horses are valued. The Desert God wouldn't have
anything against the Cavallino.

C.
Phil - 19 May 2004 01:06 GMT
><<Top 5 reasons:>>
>
><sigh> For the sake of our friendship, I'm going to ignore this racist rant and
>chalk it up to some sort of Republican brainwashing.

I'm only havin' some fun.  I'm not a racist.  It's even play with me,
I have a great joke about those "I-tal-yns" too.

Republican, democrat, communism, capitalism, Muslim, Jew, Santa Claus,
"there's no such thing as monsters", Porsche...isn't it all a form of
brainwashing?

Phil
TigerRace1 - 19 May 2004 21:42 GMT
<<I'm only havin' some fun.  I'm not a racist.>>

Then don't tell racist *jokes*, hon. Them's not funny.

<<Republican, democrat, communism, capitalism, Muslim, Jew, Santa Claus,
"there's no such thing as monsters", Porsche...isn't it all a form of
brainwashing?>>

That's why I'm a nonpartisan Pagan who drives a Ferrari. <g>

C.
matt  borland - 20 May 2004 04:13 GMT
> <<I'm only havin' some fun.  I'm not a racist.>>
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> C.

I've got this great one about a dyslexic agnostic...

He lays awake nights wondering if there really is a Dog...

-Matt- "What?! I kid the agnostics and dyslexics"
TigerRace1 - 20 May 2004 05:13 GMT
<<I've got this great one about a dyslexic agnostic...

He lays awake nights wondering if there really is a Dog...>>

Oh, come on! That is such an old joke. What else ya got?

C.
Paul Duffin - 20 May 2004 09:31 GMT
> Oh, come on! That is such an old joke. What else ya got?

So I said to the doctor, 'Doc, I can never remember if I'm dyslexic or
dyspeptic.'
He said 'Look it up - if you can, you're dyspeptic."

(Badda-boom)

Paul
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matt  borland - 20 May 2004 17:42 GMT
> <<I've got this great one about a dyslexic agnostic...
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> C.

I can't find my copy of how various faiths
interpret "sh!t happens", so it's back to the
well...

Errrr, take my wife, please!

<insert violin noise>

Ahhh crap, I'm outta material.

-Matt- "Rectum? Damn near _killed_ 'em!"
Phil - 20 May 2004 14:24 GMT
><<I'm only havin' some fun.  I'm not a racist.>>
>
>Then don't tell racist *jokes*, hon. Them's not funny.

Come one, weren't they a just a little funny...maybe in an ironic way?

Phil
TigerRace1 - 20 May 2004 20:27 GMT
<<Come one, weren't they a just a little funny...maybe in an ironic way?>>

Have you met me? Oh, wait... technically, you haven't. Well, still, you should
know by now that my sense of humour is seriously lacking when it comes to
anything remotely related to prejudice. If you've got any cripple jokes, I
might let those slide though. In fact, my family would be happy to share a few
about me. Those bastards...

C.
Zak McGregor - 20 May 2004 06:47 GMT
>><<Top 5 reasons:>>
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I'm only havin' some fun.  I'm not a racist.  It's even play with me, I
> have a great joke about those "I-tal-yns" too.

You're not bigotted - you hate everyone equally ;-)

But, in a more serious vein, those were extremely offensive insensitive
and stereotypical remarks, humour intended or not.

Ciao

Zak

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Phil - 20 May 2004 14:25 GMT
>>><sigh> For the sake of our friendship, I'm going to ignore this racist
>>>rant and chalk it up to some sort of Republican brainwashing.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>You're not bigotted - you hate everyone equally ;-)

We'll get along just fine Zak.

>But, in a more serious vein, those were extremely offensive insensitive
>and stereotypical remarks, humour intended or not.

Yeah, they were.

I guess the 9-11 commision in town this week for the hearings got the
best of me.  

Phil
Zak McGregor - 21 May 2004 04:07 GMT
> I guess the 9-11 commision in town this week for the hearings got the
> best of me.

Oooo you're a tosser. Happy to:
a. Use a tragedy to hide behind when called on your bigotry
b. equate the actions of a few to all who follow their religion

Very nice Phil.

Ciao

Zak

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Phil - 21 May 2004 18:12 GMT
>Oooo you're a tosser. Happy to:

What exactly is a "tosser"?

>a. Use a tragedy to hide behind when called on your bigotry

I don't hide behind the tragedy, I confront it.

And lighten up, you never told a joke before?  "He he throws the first
stone"....know what I mean?

Phil
Aaron - 21 May 2004 18:49 GMT
> What exactly is a "tosser"?

A tosser...  Like a fish you don't want to keep.  You toss it back in the
water.  Opposite of a keeper.

   Aaron
Phil - 21 May 2004 21:56 GMT
>> What exactly is a "tosser"?
>
>A tosser...  Like a fish you don't want to keep.  You toss it back in the
>water.  Opposite of a keeper.

Ah.  So Zak wants to toss me back.....back into the swamps of
America.... 'cause I'm a stomach scratchin' shot-gun totin' redneck
hill-billy, sittin' on my porch, just waitin' to shoot a possum or
some black folk that come walkin' by, chewin' and spittin' my tabacco,
while my old hound dog barks at a squirrel in the big oak tree out
front.

Uh oh...Zak's right, I am a bigot.  I can no longer help myself.  I'm
a bigot!  Everything that come's outta me lately is just pure hatred.
Hatred I tell you, hatred!  Because of those damn Jews, that's right,
they started all this, them along with the Mexicans, comin' into my
country and taking all the landscaping jobs.  Friggin Cinton and his
NAFTA, was he asleep at the wheel all what? 'Cause of all that sex he
was having with those interns.  And damn, he used cubans on that
Monica, only thing Castro and company are good for are those damn
cigars.  Why can't we buy them in the US, gotta go up to Canada to get
them, but who want's to do that, Aye?  Nothing good up in Canada but
the snow.  Speaking of snow, why don't those Eskimos have to pay
taxes, why do they get to keep 100% of their income when half of mine
goes to keeping all the crack mothers in the homeless shelters?  Damn
shelters run by liberals, these liberals are ruining the nation.  Half
of them shelters are falling apart anyway, cause of shoddy
construction by those damn Italians, afterall, damn Mafia has to get a
cut of everything in the construction business, just enough to "wet
their beak" they say, and why do they have to open a pizzeria on every
friggin corner, no wonder there are so many fat bastards in this
country.  Except them chinks, they're still skinny, maybe it's all
that karate they practice, or all that rice they eat.  Speakin' of
rice, I hate those people that drive Hondas, none of them know how to
drive, they make me so mad, there are so many of them, stupid Hondas,
they put these big wings on them and all.  How'd you like to come from
Buffalo, be known for inventing hot wings, oh that's a laugh, nothing
to do up there but kill little birds and fry their wings in bar-b-q
sauce, yeah, real original, real good food, as good as French food.
Friggin wimpy French, they only know us when Germany is attacking
them.  That's the real problem in this world, the Germans.  They don't
wear glasses, they wear monacles.  What's up with that.  Guess they
don't want to be called "four eyes", like the rest of these blind
wimpy four eyed bastards.  They wear glasses 'cause they want to look
smart, yeah, real smart, real smart.  I'll show you smart, let's see
how well they can shoot a possum at 25 yards, dang, I'll show them
smart.

Sorry if I left anyone out.....there's always next week!

;-)

Phil
MC - 22 May 2004 22:39 GMT
> Uh oh...Zak's right, I am a bigot.  I can no longer help myself.  I'm
> a bigot!  Everything that come's outta me lately is just pure hatred.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> was having with those interns.  And damn, he used cubans on that
> Monica, only thing Castro and company are good for are those damn

and more.  Boy, Phil.  I hope you know what you're doing.  Facetious or
not, joking or not ... I got absolutely roasted over the coals by a
certain someone for something I think a lot less inflammatory than this
... spiel.  You seem to get off over and over again with little less
than a weak warning shot over the bow.

All I can tell you is I think you're treading on some thin ice here,
even though I can tell you don't really care.  I guess thick skin fits
you well.  I couldn't find any thick enough.

Good luck - I think you're going to need it.

MC
matt  borland - 23 May 2004 00:05 GMT
> > Uh oh...Zak's right, I am a bigot.  I can no longer help myself.  I'm
> > a bigot!  Everything that come's outta me lately is just pure hatred.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> MC

*looks around*

*raises hand*

I thought it was funny.

*ducks*

-Matt- "But I'm also an NRA member, so what do I know?"
TigerRace1 - 23 May 2004 11:36 GMT
<<-Matt- "But I'm also an NRA member, so what do I know?">>

Oh, indeed!

C.
TigerRace1 - 23 May 2004 11:36 GMT
<<I got absolutely roasted over the coals by a certain someone for something I
think a lot less inflammatory than this ... spiel. >>

Well, you meant what you were saying though.

<<You seem to get off over and over again with little less than a weak warning
shot over the bow.>>

Phil is being a PITA in a completely different way now. I called him on his
first comments, as it was unclear if he meant what he said. He is now being
quite facetious.

<<All I can tell you is I think you're treading on some thin ice here>>

And I'll shove him right thru if I think he is making seriously racist
statements again. I still don't like most jokes about such things, but I can't
force people to keep quiet about them. All I can do is point out the errors as
I see them and hope that I have some influence.

You've indicated that I do.

C.
Iain Miller - 21 May 2004 23:32 GMT
> > What exactly is a "tosser"?
>
> A tosser...  Like a fish you don't want to keep.  You toss it back in the
> water.  Opposite of a keeper.

Hmm......

we have a slightly different interpretation of the word over here old boy!

I.
Thomas Andersson - 22 May 2004 00:40 GMT
>> A tosser...  Like a fish you don't want to keep.  You toss it back
>> in the water.  Opposite of a keeper.

> we have a slightly different interpretation of the word over here old
> boy!

Thought so, somehow the explanation didn't feel right... I was expecting
something else...

Best Wishes
Thomas
Phil - 22 May 2004 01:55 GMT
>> > What exactly is a "tosser"?
>> A tosser...  Like a fish you don't want to keep.  You toss it back in the
>> water.  Opposite of a keeper.
>we have a slightly different interpretation of the word over here old boy!

Come on Iain....tell us, what's a "Tosser" in the Queen's language?

If Zak called me one, I have a right to know what I am.

I speak for all us 'merkin tosser's who don't know what we are.

We have united, and we will not be kept in the dark any longer.

To Boston all my 'merkin tosser brethren...throw that damn tea in the
water.....

Phil
Zak McGregor - 22 May 2004 11:34 GMT
>>> > What exactly is a "tosser"?
>>> A tosser...  Like a fish you don't want to keep.  You toss it back in
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Come on Iain....tell us, what's a "Tosser" in the Queen's language?

Hey, I will if you like: it means w.nker.

> We have united, and we will not be kept in the dark any longer.

Perhaps you should ;-) (stay in the dark I mean...)

Ciao

Zak

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Thomas Andersson - 22 May 2004 11:49 GMT
>>>>> What exactly is a "tosser"?
>>>> A tosser...  Like a fish you don't want to keep.  You toss it back
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Hey, I will if you like: it means w.nker.

That's hardly the Queens language though ;) "Oh dear me, that Sir Bedevere
is such a w.nker, don't you think. -Yes my Queen, a proper tosser he is that
man".

Best Wishes
Thomas
Zak McGregor - 22 May 2004 14:02 GMT
>>>>>> What exactly is a "tosser"?
>>>>> A tosser...  Like a fish you don't want to keep.  You toss it back
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Bedevere is such a w.nker, don't you think. -Yes my Queen, a proper
> tosser he is that man".

Depends which Queen I guess ;-)

Ciao

Zak

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Aaron - 22 May 2004 04:57 GMT
> Hmm......
>
> we have a slightly different interpretation of the word over here old boy!
>
> I.

Alright, I just asked my Very English Grandmother (tm) what it meant and she
smacked me and didn't answer.  I think I deserve an answer for having this
imprint of her wedding ring embedded in my face.

   Aaron
Thomas Andersson - 22 May 2004 11:47 GMT
>> Hmm......
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> and she smacked me and didn't answer.  I think I deserve an answer
> for having this imprint of her wedding ring embedded in my face.

I have a few theories, I thought a tosser was someone slightly mad, or
possibly an old word for a homosexual. Another thought I had is someone very
silly...

Hmm, quick google and it seems it's an english word for w.nker...
Phil - 24 May 2004 14:05 GMT
>>> Hmm......
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>I have a few theories, I thought a tosser was someone slightly mad, or

I thought the term for "mad" was "Hatter", like "He was mad as a
hatter", which was actually based on somewhat factual data as hatters
used mercury in their trade, and due to years of exposure to the
mercury, they went mad.

Phil
Thomas Andersson - 18 May 2004 22:19 GMT
> <<Man claims Allah told him to destroy Ferrari>>
>
> Yes, but... WHY?

Allah ordering Ferraris destroyed doesn't do much for selling Islam as a
religion for sure...

Best Wishes
Thomas
TigerRace1 - 19 May 2004 00:52 GMT
<<Allah ordering Ferraris destroyed doesn't do much for selling Islam as a
religion for sure...>>

I would have pegged the Xian god as more of a spoilsport when it comes to cars.

C.

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