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Ferrari 333

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Moronic - 29 Jun 2004 01:36 GMT
Group,

I am the "Victory by Design" poster, having discovered Ferrari coverage on
the Speed Channel (cable).
My original exposure to Ferrari was F-1 via the John Frankenheimer film
"Grand Prix" - 1966 (not
available on DVD to this day only VHS tape...) Anyway, from this
"carumentary", I gather that the model
333 (factory prototype to the F-50) is about the fastest/finest car that
human race is capable of building up to this date and time. Opinions?

Monstrosity
TigerRace1 - 29 Jun 2004 03:52 GMT
<<I gather that the model 333 (factory prototype to the F-50) is about the
fastest/finest car that human race is capable of building up to this date and
time. Opinions?>>

That's a bold statement. What do you base it on? Specs? Race performance? Gut
response?

C.
<<>> - 29 Jun 2004 23:07 GMT
> I gather that the model 333 (factory prototype to the F-50) is about
> the fastest/finest car that human race is capable of building up to
> this date and time. Opinions?

Depends on what you mean by fast.  Since the 333 SP is a race car made
to race in the IMSA series I assume you mean fast in a road race.

The 333 SP didn't do terribly well in IMSA, especially as the years went
by and Ferrari didn't develop the car that much.

I suppose it was the fastest car in the "Victory by Design: Ferrari"
show, until they updated the show with a small segment on the new Enzo.
 But the Enzo, though fast, is a street car and who knows which would
win in a race.

The 333 SP came out in 1993/4, and in 1993 other IMSA cars (like the GTP
Nissans and the Porsche 962s) and Formula One cars were far faster than
a 333 SP.  And of course Formula One cars are much faster today than in
1993.

The 333 SP saw minor improvements over the years, and had some success,
especially early on.

The fastest cars that anyone has produced so far are the current group
of Formula One cars.

Regards,

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TigerRace1 - 30 Jun 2004 05:46 GMT
<<The 333 SP didn't do terribly well in IMSA>>

You don't consider winning the Driver's and Manufacturer's Championships in
1995 to be doing *terribly well*? Ferrari was 2nd in the Manufacturer's
Championship from 1996-1997 and won again in 1998.

<<The 333 SP saw minor improvements over the years, and had some success,
especially early on.>>

Really? Here are some other quick race facts about the 333SP:

- Fastest qualifying times and set fastest race laps at Sebring from 1995-1998.

- Won Sebring overall in 1995, 97 and 98.

- Qualified 2nd at Le Mans in 1996 and set fastest race lap.

- Won LMP class at Le Mans in 1998.

- 2nd at Daytona 24 Hrs in 1996 and 97 and won overall in 1998.

The 333s won a great many races over the years and of the Big Three of sports
car racing (Sebring, Daytona and Le Mans), the race win at La Sarthe is the
only one to elude the Ferrari.

C.
Thomas Andersson - 30 Jun 2004 14:15 GMT
> The 333 SP came out in 1993/4, and in 1993 other IMSA cars (like the
> GTP Nissans and the Porsche 962s) and Formula One cars were far
> faster than a 333 SP.  And of course Formula One cars are much faster
> today than in 1993.

What, are you trying to say that todays Ferrari F1 cars are competitive?
Where could you ahve gotten that idea from? ;) I mean, there's actually one
race they DIDN'T win this year *coughinigoblowscough*

Best Wishes
Thomas *Always sooo serious*
F2004: 9 of 10* - 04 Jul 2004 18:09 GMT
>> I gather that the model 333 (factory prototype to the F-50) is about
> > the fastest/finest car that human race is capable of building up to
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>The fastest cars that anyone has produced so far are the current group
>of Formula One cars.

The next time you feel the need to pull nonsense out of your a.s,
could you look for my car keys?

>Regards,

No, none really.
F2004: 9 of 10* - 04 Jul 2004 18:25 GMT
>Group,
>I am the "Victory by Design" poster, having discovered Ferrari coverage on
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>"carumentary", I gather that the model
>333 (factory prototype to the F-50)

WHAT?!!

>is about the fastest/finest car that
>human race is capable of building up to this date and time. Opinions?

...Troll.
 
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