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Car Forum / Ferrari Cars / August 2004concorsa italiano
In Monterey, California this weekend. Also Vintage races at Laguna Seca. Over 560 Ferraris on hand, plus Masaerati, Alfa Romeo, Lamborghini, Bazzarini, Lotus, Rolls Royce, BMW, Mini, Jaguar, and on and on. But principally Ferraris. I went with a group of Ferrari fans, one of whom owns a 328 that he does his own wrenching on. He made a good case for purchasing an F355 as opposeed to a Testarossa. Saw dozens of Testarossas, including one that unbeknownst to me is owned by a friend of mine, whose car was there, but he was no where around. Pretty amazing, all in all. <<Pretty amazing, all in all.>> The amazing part is that you didn't mention the Ferrari F1 exhibition that went on during the Historics. I've not yet been to a Formula 1 race, so this was the first time I had ever heard a modern car IRL. It was spectacular. Too bad it didn't beat the track record. It was off by about 1.5 seconds. Still, nothing else in the world sounds that good. C. Tigerrace wrote.... >The amazing part is that you didn't mention the Ferrari F1 exhibition that >went >on during the Historics. And several other F1 Ferraris were there too. Including this "ex" F1 car. Someone took "I wanna be like Mike" just a little too far. Silverstone anyone? I can't believe he wasn't killed or limbless... http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/showthread.php?t=6155 I've not yet been to a Formula 1 race, so this was >the >first time I had ever heard a modern car IRL. It was spectacular. If you want spectacular, multiply that by 20 and come see the start of a real F1 race! Of couse, after that you can go home as nothing futher of interest occurs after the first corner... Too bad it >didn't beat the track record. It was off by about 1.5 seconds. Yes, and the Champcar folks are already saying "see, we're quicker than those fancy Ferraris". Needless to say if a legit F1 driver had done the demo the record would have fallen. They should have brough Luca Badour, not like he was doing anything until the testing ban is lifted. Still, nothing >else in the world sounds that good. One thing did, the 1995 V-12. Ah, those were the days.... T308 > Tigerrace wrote.... > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > T308 I can't imagine I'm the only one who's heart is warmed by the good-time feeling of the two of you trading bons mots in this forum once again. T308, can you stay around for awhile this time? Somebody has to be on the other side of the see-saw, opposite all us swordfighters ... MC > I can't imagine I'm the only one who's heart is warmed by the good-time > feeling of the two of you trading bons mots in this forum once again. > T308, can you stay around for awhile this time? Hear! hear! >Somebody has to be on >the other side of the see-saw, opposite all us swordfighters ... You have a sword now? shite. MC-Paulo-D <<Hear! hear!>> Isn't that supposed to be *Here! Here!*? C. > <<Hear! hear!>> > > Isn't that supposed to be *Here! Here!*? Where? Where? Paulo-D >>I can't imagine I'm the only one who's heart is warmed by the good-time >>feeling of the two of you trading bons mots in this forum once again. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > MC-Paulo-D Well ..... the ladies call it something else. MC >If you want spectacular, multiply that by 20 and come see the start of a real >F1 race! Of couse, after that you can go home as nothing futher of interest >occurs after the first corner... That's really not fair; several races this year have seen intense competition for second or third place... > Still, nothing >>else in the world sounds that good. > >One thing did, the 1995 V-12. Ah, those were the days.... You've said it, brother: The V-10s sound like the truck motors they are in comparison. <<You've said it, brother: The V-10s sound like the truck motors they are in comparison.>> A Viper sounds like a velvet lined truck. A Ferrari F1 car sounds like music. I'm not surprised that you confuse the two. C. > <<You've said it, brother: The V-10s sound like the truck motors they are in > comparison.>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > C. I am NOT taking sides here, but we can all agree that the first and maybe even second model-year Vipers sounded like Maytags ... and even all subsequent road cars have never sounded all that menacing from the factory. More like a whoosh! as they passed you on the road than anything else. Most owners put a new exhaust system on them immediately, as far as I can tell from the Orange County contingent ... The race cars are a different story, as far as I can tell. Tommy Archer's Competition, which is factory-race-prepared right from Dodge to the track, sounds pretty good to me. MC > I am NOT taking sides here, but we can all agree that the first and > maybe even second model-year Vipers sounded like Maytags ... and even [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > MC Umm, just to reiterate, that's "as far as I can tell". Am I clear? <<The race cars are a different story, as far as I can tell. Tommy Archer's Competition, which is factory-race-prepared right from Dodge to the track, sounds pretty good to me.>> No arguments against the performance of the car, but it doesn't sound pretty. C. ><<You've said it, brother: The V-10s sound like the truck motors they are in >comparison.>> > >A Viper sounds like a velvet lined truck. A Ferrari F1 car sounds like music. >I'm not surprised that you confuse the two. I'm not surprised you haven't actually heard them, sweetie. Even the Ferrari V-10 sounds just like a V-10, an inescapable result of cylinder firing timing interval. The 3l V-12 running down the pit straight in Montreal was genuinely musical, comparatively the V-10s just make a really big unpleasant noise. <<I'm not surprised you haven't actually heard them, sweetie.>> I'm not surprised that you don't know what you're talking about again, snookums. When I ran a Ferrari Challenge race at Willow Springs in 1999, the 412 T2 was there, along with 5 other Ferrari F1 cars. They put on an exhibition not unlike the one held at Laguna Seca last weekend. <<Even the Ferrari V-10 sounds just like a V-10>> Not all V10s sound alike. That was the point I made in my last post. <<The 3l V-12 running down the pit straight in Montreal was genuinely musical>> To be quite precise, I have never heard anything so lovely as a Ferrari V12 and I have heard a number of them in person. An uncorked, flat 12 doesn't sound too shabby either, although quite different. C. ><<I'm not surprised you haven't actually heard them, sweetie.>> >I'm not surprised that you don't know what you're talking about again, >snookums. When I ran a Ferrari Challenge race at Willow Springs in 1999, the >412 T2 was there, along with 5 other Ferrari F1 cars. They put on an exhibition >not unlike the one held at Laguna Seca last weekend. ...And yet you didn't really hear them. ><<Even the Ferrari V-10 sounds just like a V-10>> > >Not all V10s sound alike. That was the point I made in my last post. They sound more like each other than they do anything else. <<And several other F1 Ferraris were there too. Including this "ex" F1 car. Someone took "I wanna be like Mike" just a little too far. >> I'm still not sure how the guy looped it where he did. He wasn't going that fast. Most of the drivers out there were tip-toeing around. <<If you want spectacular, multiply that by 20 and come see the start of a real F1 race!>> I said as much to my Crew Chief while we were watching/listening to the F1 cars from above T4/5. I literally couldn't help smiling whenever one went screaming by. <<Of couse, after that you can go home as nothing futher of interest occurs after the first corner...>> As long as Ferrari wins, I'm a happy camper. <<Yes, and the Champcar folks are already saying "see, we're quicker than those fancy Ferraris". Needless to say if a legit F1 driver had done the demo the record would have fallen.>> I wondered if the guy driving had ever been to Laguna Seca before. It's a deceptively simple course, but he didn't get to put many laps in. <<One thing did, the 1995 V-12. Ah, those were the days....>> I was referring to Formula 1 cars in general, actually. C. |
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