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...A bong? "F2004: 12 of 14*" wrote... >...A bong? I was thinking more M-72 Light Anti Tank weapon. T308mm (Who would like to have an M-72 for rush hour traffic in LA...) >"F2004: 12 of 14*" wrote... >>...A bong? > >I was thinking more M-72 Light Anti Tank weapon. Are you *really* the only other one hear who follows the F1 team? ...That's just sad. "F2004: 13 of 15*" wrote... >Are you *really* the only other one hear who follows the F1 team? No, my mother lurks once in a while. She must be the only AARP member to get up at the crack to watch F1. T308 (FORZA MOM!) >>"F2004: 12 of 14*" wrote... >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ...That's just sad. That's pretty brutal, MJF. I watch every race, was poetic after most of them, and dream of bringing fine oils, incense, and hair extensions to Indianapolis to cleanse the Schumi feet. If that isn't "following" please tell me what is. And I believe Thomas' devotion is even more single-team themed than mine. MC > And I believe Thomas' devotion is even more single-team themed than > mine. Still got Lego Schumie & Rubens on top of my monitor! :) Can't touch MCs love and knowledge about the marque though, compared I'm just a noob hack. Best Wishes Thomas *Don't want this dream season to end* >> And I believe Thomas' devotion is even more single-team themed than >> mine. > >Still got Lego Schumie & Rubens on top of my monitor! :) >Can't touch MCs love and knowledge about the marque though, compared I'm >just a noob hack. I dunno... He still likes the later TR, and gave Vette-boy a huge pass... >>>And I believe Thomas' devotion is even more single-team themed than >>>mine. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I dunno... He still likes the later TR, and gave Vette-boy a huge > pass... I'm getting old. Passes are easier and easier to give. Inflicting pain results only in receiving pain. That's when it's time to pick my targets carefully. I'll always look for the Mikal/Gerald, type B (boring) troll when I really need a breezer. Otherwise I think I'm going to start sitting back and nodding more often. MC > I'm getting old. Passes are easier and easier to give. Inflicting pain > results only in receiving pain. That's when it's time to pick my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > MC Nah. You've still got it, and I, for one, am glad you're not directing it my way. Although it "might" almost be worth it to see the language roll. (Nomex suit? Check. Nomex boots? Check. Helmet liner? Check.....) >> I'm getting old. Passes are easier and easier to give. Inflicting >> pain results only in receiving pain. That's when it's time to pick [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > (Nomex suit? Check. Nomex boots? Check. Helmet liner? Check.....) Don't forget: Life insurance? Check. SWAT team? Check. E.R. team? Check. :) Best Wishes Thomas *Knowing the pain is avoiding the pain* > Inflicting pain results only in receiving pain. Tell that to Dubya. Paul (..and now back to the studio)  SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk (Now featuring the a.a.f. directory) >> I dunno... He still likes the later TR, and gave Vette-boy a huge >> pass... > >I'm getting old. Passes are easier and easier to give. Inflicting pain >results only in receiving pain. Eh... Have you noticed the post ratio lately, Mike? This group finally starts getting some decent traffic, but easily half the posts are from Capt. Midlife Crisis, putting down Ferraris he's never heard the names of, because his 2004 Plastic Fantastic Chevy Chamberpot can "outperform" a 1979 US spec 308GTB, "on the track". ...It ain't right, I tell you. >>>I dunno... He still likes the later TR, and gave Vette-boy a huge >>>pass... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > ...It ain't right, I tell you. Hey, at least he can *afford* a mid-life crisis. I'm at mid-life already .... MC > Hey, at least he can *afford* a mid-life crisis. I'm at mid-life > already .... And I'm now beeing declared useless to society (illness retirement) so I guess I've got the right to a midlife crisis to (Especially since the doctors tell me my life won't be that long, prolly way over halfway already). Best Wishes Thomas *depressed* > > Hey, at least he can *afford* a mid-life crisis. I'm at mid-life > > already .... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Best Wishes > Thomas *depressed* Eh? Best wishes back atcha Thomas. I'd ask details but if the forum's too public feel free to drop me an email. -Matt- "..." >Hey, at least he can *afford* a mid-life crisis. I'm at mid-life >already .... I long ago realized money does not usually directly equate with talent, skill or class. > >Hey, at least he can *afford* a mid-life crisis. I'm at mid-life > >already .... > > I long ago realized money does not usually directly equate with > talent, skill or class. What does...? -Matt- "..." > >> I dunno... He still likes the later TR, and gave Vette-boy a huge > >> pass... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > ...It ain't right, I tell you. O.K. MC. Here's where I take note of your comments. Pass. >>>And I believe Thomas' devotion is even more single-team themed than >>>mine. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I dunno... He still likes the later TR, and gave Vette-boy a huge > pass... I would *cherish* an F512M, especially in prugna. The flow of my tears of joy just from staring at it would increase mightily as I looked away from it to gaze lovingly at the Titanio 550 parked next to it in my garage. MC -maybe not everybody's dream Ferrari garage, but it's mine- > I would *cherish* an F512M, especially in prugna. The flow of my tears > of joy just from staring at it would increase mightily as I looked away > from it to gaze lovingly at the Titanio 550 parked next to it in my garage. > > MC Does it need to be the M? The 91 that I was looking at ultimately went to a wholesaler, with 17,000 miles on it, for a reported $59,000, with the 30,000 mile done, and some papers, including the original sticker *$161,000 in 1991* under the bonnet. Black, not red, but the pricing was certainly down to earth for a decent to good example. The Ms still seem to be twice that price. A lot of difference. Don't know if there are parts problems or not with the older Testarossas, but if not, the prices are lower than a 348, and despite the current disdain for the 80s "excess" I'll bet those cars are going to start getting more expensive to buy in a couple of years. Don't know your financial situation, but if you're able, this could be an opportune moment in history to get one of the older ones. Just a thought. I'd love to own the 550 Maranello, myself, but I don't see the prices coming down much if at all for quite a while. Do you like the 328? With the 430s coming out the 328 becomes a few generations old, but not old enough to be a classic. If you don't mind an eight cylinder, I'm thinking those could be a bargain at the moment. Speaking purely of pricing inside the US. Don't know how international prices are going. Regards, Larry > Does it need to be the M? The 91 that I was looking at ultimately went to > a wholesaler, with 17,000 miles on it, for a reported $59,000, with the > 30,000 mile done, and some papers, including the original sticker *$161,000 [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > generations old, but not old enough to be a classic. If you don't mind an > eight cylinder, I'm thinking those could be a bargain at the moment. First of all, I will never own a Ferrari unless something miraculous happens in my life, so you never need to start a conversation with me as if it were almost certain I was about to withdraw some money from an offshore account and plunk it down on an Italian thorougbred. I don't even have a bank account. My whole vision of owning a Ferrari is predicated on a near back-from-the-dead-type rejuvenation. I don't see it happening any more; recent mental-health revelations have put me into a somewhat desultory state on that. But, one can always hope. What I need is a return to the "patron" period, like when Mozart was alive. Rich, bored patrons of the arts commissioning grand works, etc. I think I could come through. I always work better on deadlines, with work orders, etc. Just sitting around dreaming up sh.t on my own (any longer than this kind of stuff) is almost undoable. Some days I am sure I could out-Dave Barry Dave Barry any minute of any day. Other days, well ... if I had a pistol you-know-the-drill. Anyway, the F512M is the very best of the post-boxer 512 line; I think that's why their value remains solid. It's the only reason I would want one, the best of the line, nothing otherwise. I'm not as big a fan of the older eight-cylinder cars, but then, like most of us here, I love *all* Ferraris in a general way, then start picking my way through the marque for extra special stuff. And that's what the Maranello is to me. If I was in a position to buy a "first" Ferrari but wasn't able to bring dumspters full of cash to the table I'd be looking at an eight-cylinder model, sure. But I might just as well be interested in a 412i or 400i - there's something so "Bondish" about them. MC > First of all, I will never own a Ferrari unless something miraculous > happens in my life Not to get to metaphysical bull-shitty here, but I suggest that if you expect it, and want it badly enough you'll find a way. Some days I am sure I could out-Dave > Barry Dave Barry any minute of any day. Other days, well ... if I had a > pistol you-know-the-drill. I know the drill. Forget it. How about a script treatments. They don't have to be too long if you have imagination. Just a thought. > Anyway, the F512M is the very best of the post-boxer 512 line; I think > that's why their value remains solid. It's the only reason I would want > one, the best of the line, nothing otherwise. I don't like the headlamps. I prefer the pop ups. Otherwise I agree with you on it being the best of the Testarossas. > I'm not as big a fan of the older eight-cylinder cars, but then, like > most of us here, I love *all* Ferraris in a general way, then start [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > be looking at an eight-cylinder model, sure. But I might just as well > be interested in a 412i or 400i - there's something so "Bondish" about them. Interesting. That will require some thought. I, on the other hand, need to put out some fires tomorrow, and so I bid you a good night, or morning. > MC > be looking at an eight-cylinder model, sure. But I might just as well > be interested in a 412i or 400i - there's something so "Bondish" > about them. Prefer Bond to Magnum do we? But Magnum have a big moustache!! ;) OK, Sean Connery IS cooler than Tom Selleck... Best Wishes Thomas * I'll take a Ferrari, ANY Ferrari * <<Don't know your financial situation, but if you're able, this could be an opportune moment in history to get one of the older ones.>> I could have sworn that you'd been around longer than this. C. > Does it need to be the M? The 91 that I was looking at ultimately went to > a wholesaler, with 17,000 miles on it, for a reported $59,000, with the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 348, and despite the current disdain for the 80s "excess" I'll bet those > cars are going to start getting more expensive to buy in a couple of years. Not too sure about that. It might not be only a "disdain for the 80s excess", otherwise the 512 TR or F512 M would sell for low prices also. The fact is (according to my mechanics and various club members I know ) that the first Testarossas (i.e. before the 512 TR) are known to be very fragile, and to lack performance in many fields including braking. I considered buying one a few years ago: every people I met told me to avoid the Testarossa at any price and to prefer a 512 TR or a F355. SignatureJ.C. > >> And I believe Thomas' devotion is even more single-team themed than > >> mine. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I dunno... He still likes the later TR, and gave Vette-boy a huge > pass... Actually, no, he didn't. "Vette-boy" as you so unimaginatively critique me, took his hits from MC when first posting under REInvestments. Feel free to go back and check. The difference is that MC, who can be far more "blue" than you've exhibited to date, hammers from a sense of passion, and his perception that he is the keeper of the gates, in dissauding newbies from staying who he deems to be unappreciative of Ferrari as a marque. Another difference is that he appreciates words, and works with them. And even on those days when his chemicals aren't marching in an appropriate direction, his writing is far more imaginative than yours. Do you really think he'd be using "knucklehead" and "vette-boy" if he became irritated with me? I doubt he cares if someone like me wants to play with a lemming like you, so long as he doesn't perceive me as disrespectful or unappreciatiive of the marque. If I'm wrong, we'll know presently, rest assured. The fact that he hasn't blown through my Nomex already should have been a clue to you. As the warnings from Duffin, or perhaps even my description under REInvestments on the website. And you probably missed Anderson and I discussing the re-fueling strategy genius that put Barichello in first (unless Schumacher was laying off the pace to install him as # 2 for Driver of the Year). And yet, you remain clueless. You are so busy working up your superiotity and condescension to what you THINK I am, that you can't be bothered to do any thinking. If I were a "button pusher" that could prove to be entertaining for a while. I'd like to continue examing your bon mots, but I see that there may be something substantive posted in response to my question about 328s. By the bye, you haven't used "puke" or "spit" in a sentence with "Vette-boy" yet. Shall I send you a set of "Hooked on Phonics"? > Actually, no, he didn't. "Vette-boy" as you so unimaginatively critique me, > took his hits from MC when first posting under REInvestments. Feel free to [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > By the bye, you haven't used "puke" or "spit" in a sentence with "Vette-boy" > yet. Shall I send you a set of "Hooked on Phonics"? OK, ok, ok, k, k, .... I'm going to actually say a few things in defense of the Opus, though he will vigorously resist it and/or the need for it. Mr. F2004's posts in aaf, when I first visited here (seems like a million years ago), were one of the things that drew me to this forum. Come sit around the fire, folks ... Many years ago, in a fog of untreated psychiatric jet blast, I was first learning how to navigate USENET. For porn, of course. But, at the time, I was on dialup (as I am now - oh, how that bitter circle closes round), and the agony of downloading binary newsgroups was killing me. I decided to type in my most favored subject, Ferrari, into my newsreader index just to see what was out there. And I found this group. Sparsely populated though it was, there was a quite intelligent guy named MJF2000 throwing his weight around. He had a web site at that time and I visited it, and I realized that, even though I disagreed with much of what he had to say and didn't mind wading into battle with him, he and I were cut from much of the same cloth. For that reason, though I didn't mind crossing swords with him any chance I could, and often lost, I liked having him around. He is arrogant. He can be rude. But he likes foreign beer. That counts for something in my book. There was also this cute couple throwing lightweight barbs at each other (T308 and Tiger), some good photographers (MHanson, among others), a legend named the Funkraum who is sorely missed, and these peculiar Englishmen, one of whom I have forged a strong bond with. And, there were several useless motherf..king trolls, imagined or otherwise, and I had to slay them. And that's how I started hanging around here. It was rough at the start. I got slapped down a few times, most notably when I name-outed Tiger (oops that's a no-no). So, it's not an easy path around here - but in my mind part of the "shape" of this group is because of MJF's presence, not despite it. Your mileage may vary. MC > So, it's not an easy path around here - but in my mind part of the > "shape" of this group is because of MJF's presence, not despite it. > > Your mileage may vary. > > MC Noted. Surprising. But noted. >> So, it's not an easy path around here - but in my mind part of the >> "shape" of this group is because of MJF's presence, not despite it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Noted. Surprising. But noted. Yep, like him or loathe him, MJF is definately part of the scenery here... ...but no more or less than the rest of us, and that includes you. Paul - Happy to see us all here, even if we're arguing... ...although an occasional change in subject matter wouldn't hurt ;-) SignatureHttp://www.redmist.freeserve.co.uk (Now featuring the a.a.f. directory) <<these peculiar Englishmen, one of whom I have forged a strong bond with.>> He's married now, Mikey. Do you want his pink, satin, capri pants? C. >>And I believe Thomas' devotion is even more single-team themed than >>mine. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Best Wishes > Thomas *Don't want this dream season to end* "Love", yes. Knowledge ... I'm just a fledgling myself. I read and I absorb, but I don't always *know*. Someday, though, I will know all. MC > absorb, but I don't always *know*. Someday, though, I will know all. > > MC <que manical laughter and the obligatory lightening-stirking-the-highest-tower shot> <oh, and bats. Lots and lots of bats. No! Not just bats! Vampire bats!> <Aaron> >>absorb, but I don't always *know*. Someday, though, I will know all. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > <Aaron> You are beginning to be on the verge of good, young man. Perhaps, after years and years of arduous and backbreaking worship I will deign to transform you into a simpering acolyte. (Which really only means that you are exempted from smiting for one year from your ordainment date ... don't go getting your panties up in a wad.) MC > don't go getting your panties up in a wad.) > > MC *whimper* How... How'd you know about those? *g* Aaron >"F2004: 12 of 14*" wrote... >>...A bong? > >I was thinking more M-72 Light Anti Tank weapon. Are you *really* the only other person here who follows the F1 team? ...That's just sad.. <<Are you *really* the only other person here who follows the F1 team?>> Get over yourself already. Not every word out of your mouth incites in others a lust to respond. If you're such an F1 fan, then why is your only comment about the bloody trophy? Did you see any of the actual racing? "They'll never make a 1-2 out of this one..." C. > <<Are you *really* the only other person here who follows the F1 > team?>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > "They'll never make a 1-2 out of this one..." Looked quite hopeless, Schumacher doing his worst first lap ever and by the looks of it Rubens messing up the strategy... But now this isn't just any old team, this is Ferrari! They fixed it, changed stratgey, drove like only they can with cars that performs like only ferraris does and fixed a perfect homecrowd pleasing 1-2. BTW, have anyone EVER seen Rubens like that? all smiles and very open, couldn't stop talking it seemed... I loved the race and enjoyed the pc afterwards very much to. (They say there's no passing in F1, so how did Schumacher (after a spin and a contact) get from next to last to second?). Best Wishes Thomas > > <<Are you *really* the only other person here who follows the F1 > > team?>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Best Wishes > Thomas I think part of the kudos should go to the person who determined what the re-fueling strategy should be. Working to build a 1.5 second per lap advantage up to leave enough time for both a tire change, and a refuel, in under 6 seconds, and coming out in the lead was some pretty close calculating. Schumacher, and his machine are just uncanny. There's no way he should have escaped car damage in the spin, and there is certainly no way he should have been able to work his way up through the entire field. Pretty amazing motivation with Driver of the Year, and the Constructor's award already sewn up. BAR being second in Constructor's seems like a bit of a surprise as well. > I think part of the kudos should go to the person who determined what > the re-fueling strategy should be. Working to build a 1.5 second > per lap advantage up to leave enough time for both a tire change, and > a refuel, in under 6 seconds, and coming out in the lead was some > pretty close calculating. Yeah, there's a LOT of talent in teh Ferrari team, on and off the track. The seems to be able to adapt instantly to almost any change in circumstances and come out on top. > Schumacher, and his machine are just uncanny. There's no way he > should have escaped car damage in the spin, and there is certainly no > way he should have been able to work his way up through the entire > field. Maybe Montoya just wasn't close enough? ;) > Pretty amazing motivation with Driver of the Year, and the > Constructor's award already sewn up. BAR being second in > Constructor's seems like a bit of a surprise as well. Still gunning for Rubhino on second! (Anyone wanna bet that Schumacher won't win the next race either?) Best Wishes Thomas > Did you see any of the actual racing? > > "They'll never make a 1-2 out of this one..." I did see the race, and I haven't understood yet how they did it, particularly Schumi. It was literally fantastic. The BIG drawback was about that bloody Italian TV crew. They would switch cameras almost every time there were cars passing each other (and, for once, there were many !). SignatureJ.C. ><<Are you *really* the only other person here who follows the F1 team?>> >Get over yourself already. Not every word out of your mouth incites in others a >lust to respond. If you're such an F1 fan, then why is your only comment about >the bloody trophy? Did you see any of the actual racing? > >"They'll never make a 1-2 out of this one..." Yeah, forgive me, I was fooled by the presence of only two posts in the 36hours after one of the most thrilling team performances in years. ...I should have recognized the affirming implication of abject silence. |
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