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There's always a reason - and Sierra Nevada is this years' (a fifty dollar answer for the two dolllar question ARE YOU DRUNK?)
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MC - 18 Nov 2004 10:26 GMT Because I know all of you are burning with desire, at a cellular level, to discern the source of my recent and potentially criminal burst of creativity:
Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale 2004.
Yes. That is the manna from heaven. Released only once a year, and blessedly bestowed upon my local 7-11, this is like absinthe was to Van Gogh, opium to Thomas Shadwell, etc. It even provides a comfortable replacement for cannabis - imagine that!
My brain follows not the path of .... "y'all". And certainly, yes - there are other substances I use, some even officially sanctioned, to be societally functionable. I have tried most all of them, my captains, and the ones the government allows, I have even followed somewhat to the point of a regimen.
However, at holiday time, Celebration Ale takes home the statuette.
(Tiger, bite your tongue. You are better than me. Revel in it, or be still and be mortified, but be still nonetheless. I am what I am, you and I are what we are, and I absolutely love you. And remember - ruination is only a part of potential.)
MC
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TigerRace1 - 18 Nov 2004 17:37 GMT <<Tiger, bite your tongue. >>
I will not.
<<You are better than me.>>
Oh, piffle. I'm just better funded than you are.
<< I am what I am>>
That's a child's excuse. I've met you. You're a big, strong man. At least employ a man's excuse.
<<you and I are what we are, and I absolutely love you.>>
Not that we needed further evidence, but this is absolute proof that you're off your rocker.
<<And remember - ruination is only a part of potential.>>
Can you hear me rolling me eyes from there?
C.
Aaron - 18 Nov 2004 21:22 GMT > << I am what I am>> > > That's a child's excuse. I've met you. You're a big, strong man. At least > employ a man's excuse. He is, C. Didn't you ever watch Popeye?
matt borland - 18 Nov 2004 21:44 GMT > > << I am what I am>> > > > > That's a child's excuse. I've met you. You're a big, strong man. At least > > employ a man's excuse. > > He is, C. Didn't you ever watch Popeye? He's got a point, he does.
-Matt- "...but is he strong to the finish?"
MC - 19 Nov 2004 00:56 GMT matt borland wrote:
> -Matt- "...but is he strong to the finish?" I'm pretty sure I'll smell strong all the way to the finish.
MC
 Signature "Garcon!! More lithium!"
TigerRace1 - 18 Nov 2004 23:12 GMT <<He is, C. Didn't you ever watch Popeye?>>
Yup. Don't like him. The whole cartoon is creepy.
C.
MC - 19 Nov 2004 01:05 GMT > <<He is, C. Didn't you ever watch Popeye?>> > > Yup. Don't like him. The whole cartoon is creepy. > > C. Guess you're not going to see "The Polar Express", then. Talk about creepy-looking characters. I think Zemeckis laid a rotten egg with this one - especially when compared to the original poem. Not all technology is good. Sure, the sheep will love it, but I bet there'll be a whole bunch of litle lambs having a whole bunch of bad nightmares in the coming months.
MC
 Signature I rode a tank Held a general’s rank When the blitzkrieg raged And the bodies stank
matt borland - 19 Nov 2004 04:24 GMT "MC" <betterman@pj.net> wrote in message
> I rode a tank > Held a general?s rank > When the blitzkrieg raged > And the bodies stank While the Stones get their due credit for that one, Jane's Addiction did a killer cover of it. (XXX Records)
-Matt- "HOO HOOO!"
MC - 19 Nov 2004 04:36 GMT matt borland wrote:
> "MC" <betterman@pj.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Matt- "HOO HOOO!" "the Stones get their due credit for that one" ... damn straight they do, son. While many songs are covered, there are some songs whose covers will never eclipse the original. This is one of them.
MC
("Knock Knock Knockin on Heaven's Door" is *not* one of them. Though Dylan is a god, I prefer the GNR version. Hell, I think Mac Davis even did a pretty damn good job on that one.)
 Signature And if the dam breaks open many years too soon And if there is no room upon the hill And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too I'll see you on the dark side of the moon
matt borland - 19 Nov 2004 16:54 GMT "MC" <betterman@pj.net> wrote in message
> ("Knock Knock Knockin on Heaven's Door" is *not* one of them. Though > Dylan is a god, I prefer the GNR version. Hell, I think Mac Davis even > did a pretty damn good job on that one.) While we're on covers, got any that you think were actually better than the original?
I can think of two, and like your GNR/Dylan comment, it's borderline heretical to say someone did their song better.
I think Thorogood did a better version of "One Bourbon, One Scotch, and One Beer" than John Lee Hooker, even though JLH is _The Man_. (Hooker may have covered it too, I keep thinking it's somebody else's song originally.)
Voivod (of all people) did a great version of "Astronomy Domine" that I like a lot better than Pink Floyd's version.
Isn't it about time for a newbie to post "what does this have to do with Ferraris"?
-Matt- "..."
matt borland - 19 Nov 2004 17:00 GMT > While we're on covers, got any that you think > were actually better than the original? Errr, besides the one you mentioned already...
-Matt- :::dumbass:::
MC - 20 Nov 2004 00:07 GMT matt borland wrote:
> I think Thorogood did a better version of "One Bourbon, > One Scotch, and One Beer" than John Lee Hooker, even > though JLH is _The Man_. (Hooker may have covered it > too, I keep thinking it's somebody else's song originally.) Totally in agreement here!
> Voivod (of all people) did a great version of "Astronomy > Domine" that I like a lot better than Pink Floyd's version. Never heard that one, but I'm going to seek it out now. I always thought Richard Hell was a true genius.
MC
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Harold Adrian Russell Philby - 19 Nov 2004 18:38 GMT >matt borland wrote: >> "MC" <betterman@pj.net> wrote in message >("Knock Knock Knockin on Heaven's Door" is *not* one of them. Though >Dylan is a god, I prefer the GNR version. Hell, I think Mac Davis even >did a pretty damn good job on that one.) Are you talking of Dylan's studio version, or any of several live recordings, particularly those backed by The Band?
MC - 20 Nov 2004 00:08 GMT >>matt borland wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Are you talking of Dylan's studio version, or any of several live > recordings, particularly those backed by The Band? Both - don't worry, this is just personal preference. I love Dylan, almost everything he's ever done. But for that one song, GNR struck a chord with me, though ultimately I was happy to see them fade away (Slash always deserved better). Another GNR example that failed - "Live and Let Die". McCartney's version is superior.
MC
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Harold Adrian Russell Philby - 20 Nov 2004 18:42 GMT >>>matt borland wrote: >>>>"MC" <betterman@pj.net> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >almost everything he's ever done. But for that one song, GNR struck a >chord with me, I too enjoy the GNR version, but it's no match for the one on Before the Flood. Nobody, least of all Axel Foley, can capture the lyrics as well as Dylan. And GNR won't ever even understand why they weren't as good as The Band.
>though ultimately I was happy to see them fade away >(Slash always deserved better). Another GNR example that failed - "Live >and Let Die". McCartney's version is superior. There's a genuine Hobson's Choice ..."Mark: Would you rather have a Lime Green Gallardo or a Baby's-Puke Brown '05 Mustang?"
MC - 19 Nov 2004 04:39 GMT I just discovered that Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale has nearly 6.9 percent alcohol. Now I sense the source of the near-medicinal properties from which I benefitted.
MC
 Signature And if the dam breaks open many years too soon And if there is no room upon the hill And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too I'll see you on the dark side of the moon
matt borland - 19 Nov 2004 15:28 GMT > I just discovered that Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale has nearly 6.9 > percent alcohol. Now I sense the source of the near-medicinal > properties from which I benefitted. > > MC Yeesh, that's right up there with Trader Joe's Fat Weasel Ale.
-Matt- :::friend of the fat weasel:::
Harold Adrian Russell Philby - 19 Nov 2004 18:35 GMT >> I just discovered that Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale has nearly 6.9 >> percent alcohol. Now I sense the source of the near-medicinal >> properties from which I benefitted. > >Yeesh, that's right up there with Trader Joe's >Fat Weasel Ale. Please tell me you are not joking.
...I have to try Fat Weasel Ale.
matt borland - 19 Nov 2004 20:39 GMT > >> I just discovered that Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale has nearly 6.9 > >> percent alcohol. Now I sense the source of the near-medicinal [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ...I have to try Fat Weasel Ale. I am not joking.
It is excellent.
-Matt- "..."
LIW - 20 Nov 2004 21:17 GMT > I just discovered that Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale has nearly 6.9 > percent alcohol. Now I sense the source of the near-medicinal > properties from which I benefitted. > > MC Flying Pigs if memory serves?
MC - 20 Nov 2004 22:39 GMT >>I just discovered that Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale has nearly 6.9 >>percent alcohol. Now I sense the source of the near-medicinal [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Flying Pigs if memory serves? Nope - the flying pigs are on "Animals", another great one but not their best. That slice is from "Brain Damage", a cut on "Dark Side Of The Moon", probably one of the all-time watershed rock albums (a copy of which I'm sure you have somewhere).
MC
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LIW - 20 Nov 2004 22:48 GMT > Moon", probably one of the all-time watershed rock albums (a copy of > which I'm sure you have somewhere). > > MC > > "Garcon!! More lithium!" Probably on those black rubber thingies in the garage. None of them fit into my CD players !!
Big Ben - 22 Nov 2004 12:59 GMT matt borland wrote:
> "MC" <betterman@pj.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Matt- "HOO HOOO!" The GNR cover was also pretty good, used in the movie 'interview with the vampire' which wasn't
TigerRace1 - 19 Nov 2004 19:06 GMT <<Guess you're not going to see "The Polar Express", then. Talk about creepy-looking characters.>>
I totally agree. Since when do we want our animated characters to look exactly like humans? Worse, almost, exactly like humans.
C.
Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek - 20 Nov 2004 03:50 GMT Tigerrace (non-cg version) wrote..
>I totally agree. Since when do we want our animated characters to look >exactly >like humans? Worse, almost, exactly like humans. That actually is a worry in CG land. The fine folks at Dreamworks/PDI "dumbed down" the CG in the Shrek series on the more "human charcters" (like Princess Fiona) for fear they'd look "too real" and be distracting/alarming.
T3D 08 (Who's off to Italy tomorrow!!)
TigerRace1 - 20 Nov 2004 23:11 GMT <<The fine folks at Dreamworks/PDI "dumbed down" the CG in the Shrek series on the more "human charcters" (like Princess Fiona) for fear they'd look "too real" and be distracting/alarming.>>
I remember hearing about that when the first movie came out. Apparently they didn't care so much when they made this Polar movie.
C.
Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek - 30 Nov 2004 02:52 GMT tigerrace1 wrote...
>I remember hearing about that when the first movie came out. Apparently they >didn't care so much when they made this >Polar movie. PolarExpress (or should that be Excess?) is a Warner/Playtone project. Perhaps they should have left it to Dreamworks/PDI, they'd have done a better job....
T308
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