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Harold Adrain Russell Philby - 08 Dec 2004 06:39 GMT
I've sold the beloved Integra and have inherited an Accord:

Does anyone know how to spell "Granny Panties" in Italian?
Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek - 08 Dec 2004 16:45 GMT
The third man wrote....

>I've sold the beloved Integra and have >inherited an Accord:

Who died and left you that?

>Does anyone know how to spell "Granny >Panties" in Italian?

Biancheria intima della nonna perhaps?

T308
(Who is toying with the idea of selling the 308 in favor of a GTC, any takers?)
Harold Adrain Russell Philby - 08 Dec 2004 21:17 GMT
>The third man wrote....
>>Does anyone know how to spell "Granny >Panties" in Italian?
>Biancheria intima della nonna perhaps?

I'll never fit *that* on a license plate...

>(Who is toying with the idea of selling the 308 in favor of a GTC, any takers?)

'67-'69 330/365 GTC?

How wonderful for you!
Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek - 09 Dec 2004 00:52 GMT
HARP wrote....

>'67-'69 330/365 GTC?
>
>How wonderful for you!

Workin' on it.....

T330
(Perhaps....)
matt  borland - 09 Dec 2004 12:49 GMT
> HARP wrote....
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> T330
> (Perhaps....)

Man, I love those cars...

-Matt- "..."
Harold Adrain Russell Philby - 09 Dec 2004 16:14 GMT
>> HARP wrote....
>> >'67-'69 330/365 GTC?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Man, I love those cars...

...First Ferrari I ever heard sitting "just right there".

A friend and I chased it into a parking lot on our bikes:  In my
youthful ignorance I asked the owner if it was a Lusso,  his scumbag
nitwit passenger replied, in that laconic faux-uppercrust drawl that
to this day makes me want to practice reverse dentistry, "No; it's a
Fehw-ra-hrii..."

...Contrary to Mike I still think its a GREAT car, and one of the
*most* desirable Ferraris (I'd kill any three of you for a 330-GTS).
MC - 09 Dec 2004 16:45 GMT
> (I'd kill any three of you for a 330-GTS)

I love you, man.  (pops morning beer)  But right now if I was part of
your planned three the keys would never hit your hand.  My living
situation has me so 'roided out I could win the Kumite blindfolded.

MC

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matt  borland - 10 Dec 2004 03:16 GMT
"MC" <betterman@pj.net> wrote in message

> MC
>
> RIP Dimebag

I'll second that.

-Matt- "Not everyone in this town kills guitarists."
Harold Adrian Russell Philby - 10 Dec 2004 17:54 GMT
>> (I'd kill any three of you for a 330-GTS)
>
>I love you, man.  (pops morning beer)  But right now if I was part of
>your planned three the keys would never hit your hand.  

I was being *rhetorical*, Mike:  Should anyone need to have anyone
killed, that would be my price.

>My living situation has me so 'roided out

...Then change it.

>I could win the Kumite blindfolded.

That's probably a "gemstone" I don't want to know _anything_ about,
right?
MC - 10 Dec 2004 18:42 GMT
>>>(I'd kill any three of you for a 330-GTS)
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> ...Then change it.

I am.

>>I could win the Kumite blindfolded.
>
> That's probably a "gemstone" I don't want to know _anything_ about,
> right?

Movie.  See "Bloodsport", et. al.  Probably not your cup of tea, but
they're not bad movies for the martial arts.  Forget plot.

MC

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Harold Adrian Russell Philby - 10 Dec 2004 19:21 GMT
>>>I could win the Kumite blindfolded.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Movie.  See "Bloodsport", et. al.  Probably not your cup of tea, but
>they're not bad movies for the martial arts.  Forget plot.

No...   Not my cup of *espresso* at all...

I don't watch even Cameron Diaz movies with forgettable plots.
Paul Duffin - 12 Dec 2004 10:45 GMT
> I don't watch even Cameron Diaz movies with forgettable plots.

...Oh, *that* Cameron Diaz film....

Paul
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LIW - 11 Dec 2004 03:23 GMT
> >> (I'd kill any three of you for a 330-GTS)
> >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> That's probably a "gemstone" I don't want to know _anything_ about,
> right?

It's shorthand for lining up against the other person in a dojo.

How are you doing, so far?
Paul Duffin - 12 Dec 2004 10:43 GMT
> ...Contrary to Mike I still think its a GREAT car, and one of the
> *most* desirable Ferraris (I'd kill any three of you for a 330-GTS).

Hey! Not good 'ol Paul, surely?

Paul
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TigerRace1 - 09 Dec 2004 21:46 GMT
<<T330
(Perhaps....)>>

We've got one of those for sale. I'm sure I could get you a deal on it. <eg>

C.
Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek - 10 Dec 2004 15:20 GMT
TigerRace1 wrote....

>We've got one of those for sale. I'm sure I could get you a deal on it. <eg>

The bumblebee?  Ok, $50k and I'll take it...

T3XX
MC - 10 Dec 2004 18:43 GMT
> TigerRace1 wrote....
>
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>
> T3XX

What's the bumblebee?  Enough with these inside jokes!

MC

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Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek - 10 Dec 2004 22:43 GMT
MC wrote...

>What's the bumblebee?

http://www.parrotbyte.com/330GTRegistry/Detail/SN_6109.html

> Enough with these inside jokes!

Never!

T3??
matt  borland - 10 Dec 2004 22:52 GMT
> MC wrote...
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> T3??

Did I say I love 330GTs?

Correction:

All but that one.

They oughta call that one the 330 SuperUgly...

-Matt- "..."
MC - 11 Dec 2004 14:32 GMT
> MC wrote...
>
>>What's the bumblebee?
>
> http://www.parrotbyte.com/330GTRegistry/Detail/SN_6109.html

Y'know ... I try to keep an open mind.  I fail, most of the time, but I
try.  Now that *is* a Ferrari, and I wouldn't necessarily kick it out of
my driveway, but that is one ugly car.  It reminds me of something I
might see south of the border.  Toss some sidepipes on it and plant a
couple of those pipe-organ type stereo speakers in the rear deck (if
there is one), and you've got the perfect cruiser for a Friday night on
Avenida La Revolucion.

With all apologies, because I know I'm putting my a.s to the flame
again.  Can't help it.

MC

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TigerRace1 - 15 Dec 2004 20:03 GMT
<<that is one ugly car.  It reminds me of something I might see south of the
border.  Toss some sidepipes on it and plant a couple of those pipe-organ type
stereo speakers in the rear deck (if there is one), and you've got the perfect
cruiser for a Friday night on Avenida La Revolucion.

With all apologies, because I know I'm putting my a.s to the flame again.>>

You haven't actually met my mother yet, have you? I'll print this out and have
her hold onto it until you do. <eg>

C.
MC - 16 Dec 2004 04:39 GMT
> <<that is one ugly car.  It reminds me of something I might see south of the
> border.  Toss some sidepipes on it and plant a couple of those pipe-organ type
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> C.

I tried to be as non-racist as I could, and I know I failed.  I'm sure
your mother is a wonderful, wonderful person.  And I do hope over the
years she's retained a sense of her origins, her ethnicity, because I do
believe that is important.  And as soon as I move out of this
godforsaken area, I know will begin to lose the hostility (I better or I
will have to start the killing).  All my life I have been proud to be a
racially tolerant, gentle, sensitive person who tried to accommodate
anything and everybody.  I think I can go back to that with a change of
scenery.

SO GET OFF MY GODDAMNED BACK OR I'LL SMOKE YOU LIKE A BRISKET!!!

(Oops, a little slip-up there.  As I was saying - gentle, sensitive ...)

Anyway, make sure you show your mom this, too.  If she doesn't take
kindly to any of it, mention my Tourette's.

MC

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Harold Adrian Russell Philby - 11 Dec 2004 15:19 GMT
>MC wrote...
>>What's the bumblebee?
>
>http://www.parrotbyte.com/330GTRegistry/Detail/SN_6109.html

OH! GOOD GOD!

...It's a bloody abortion.

Does anyone know, or can point me to a reference:  Were Michelotti's
independent "designs" popular in their day, or have they always been
considered crude, heavy-handed, dis-proportionate, and overwrought?

The very front end, lifted, as it is appears, directly from the '67
Camaro, is the only aspect which doesn't *completely* revolt.

No mystery that it's spent its life in California since being defiled.

>> Enough with these inside jokes!

There's _nothing_ funny about that *thing*.
Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek - 11 Dec 2004 18:19 GMT
Harold Adrian Russell Philby wrote....

>OH! GOOD GOD!
>
>...It's a bloody abortion.

I think this one's even worse.  I know this car well and it's horrible in
almost every way.  The only redeeming features are some interior elements,
everything else is a disaster.  It's by far the worst Ferrari I've ever driven.
Ever.  The body work is as heavy as it looks, it corners like a Greyhound Bus
and people avert their eyes as you pass.

http://www.parrotbyte.com/330GTRegistry/Detail/SN_9083.html

Check out the asking price on this one in 1989.  I know the owner of that time
well and he turned down a $1.4m offer at Pebble Beach.  It's now for sale for
$125k on the east coast.  Frankly, I can't imagine why anyone would want to own
it.  I had a buyer nearly take it for $495k.  He wanted to have a "one of a
kind" Ferrari.  Sadly, for me, his wife saw it and stopped him.

<<Does anyone know, or can point me to a reference:  Were Michelotti's
independent "designs" popular in their day, or have they always been
considered crude, heavy-handed, dis-proportionate, and overwrought?>>

In the 60s and 70s they were all that (his designs for Austin and Triumph were
absolutely freakish).  His work with Vignale in the 1950s was splendid.  He
should have stopped there.  If you want to see his good stuff Marcel Massini's
"Ferrari By Vignale" is a great album.

<<The very front end, lifted, as it is appears, directly from the '67
Camaro, is the only aspect which doesn't *completely* revolt.>>

I always think Corvair when I see s/n 9083. Someone came into the shop one day
and said to me "I didn't know you worked on Chevys".  

>No mystery that it's spent its life in California since being defiled.

We have the best and the worst here.  That's why we live here!

>>> Enough with these inside jokes!
>
>There's _nothing_ funny about that >*thing*.

I don't know, I always giggle when I see it..

T308
matt  borland - 12 Dec 2004 03:11 GMT
"Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek" <tifosi308@aol.comunista> wrote in
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> I think this one's even worse.  I know this car well and it's horrible in
> almost every way.  The only redeeming features are some interior elements,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> http://www.parrotbyte.com/330GTRegistry/Detail/SN_9083.html

Bleeeeaaaaaaah!

Take the nose from an Opel Manta, the back half of
a '55 Studebaker President Speedster, mix in a little
240Z, and BAM! Instant ugly.

Funny, considering I like those three cars a good bit.

-Matt- "..."
Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek - 12 Dec 2004 16:41 GMT
"matt borland" wrote...

>Bleeeeaaaaaaah!

Here's a few more photos of the pig.  It's for sale again.  No surprise.

http://www.motorclassiccorp.com/DisplayCar.asp?carid=83

T308
MC - 12 Dec 2004 17:24 GMT
> "matt borland" wrote...
>
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>
> T308

They have an "Ugly Bucket of Bolts, but with S/N and matching papers"
class at Pebble?  I'll be damned.

MC

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Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek - 12 Dec 2004 17:50 GMT
MC wrote...

>They have an "Ugly Bucket of Bolts, but with S/N and matching papers"
>class at Pebble?  I'll be damned.

It was 1991 at the apex of the crazy time in the Ferrari world when "Custom
Coachwork" no matter how bizzare was the Flavor of the Month.  Poor Gary had a
Million dollar cash offer on the car and turned it down.  He's regreted it to
this day and I'm sure for the rest of his life.

T308
Harold Adrian Russell Philby - 12 Dec 2004 19:33 GMT
>Harold Adrian Russell Philby wrote....
>
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>
>http://www.parrotbyte.com/330GTRegistry/Detail/SN_9083.html

That's the same car without the targa top.

...And I agree:  The rear is absolutely Corvair.
TigerRace1 - 15 Dec 2004 19:55 GMT
<<That's the same car without the targa top.>>

Brilliant observation. They are sister cars, but the Ferrari family has
disowned them both.

C.
TigerRace1 - 15 Dec 2004 20:04 GMT
<<There's _nothing_ funny about that *thing*.>>

We could laugh or we could cry. Dad just rolls his eyes.

C.
TigerRace1 - 15 Dec 2004 20:02 GMT
<<The bumblebee?  Ok, $50k and I'll take it...>>

I did mention that we also have a dusty rose coloured, '58 Eldorado Birritz
Convertible for sale, didn't I? And you didn't post the best pic of the 330.
Where's that one with the chick holding the skis?

C.
Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek - 22 Dec 2004 20:36 GMT
TigerRace1 wrote...

> And you didn't post the best pic of the 330.
>Where's that one with the chick holding the skis?

You mean this one?

http://www.barchetta.cc/All.Ferraris/boano/michelotti.html

I hope the ladies aged better than the car...

T308
TigerRace1 - 23 Dec 2004 19:19 GMT
<<You mean this one?

<A
HREF="http://www.barchetta.cc/All.Ferraris/boano/michelotti.html">http://w
ww.barchetta.cc/All.Ferraris/boano/michelotti.html</A>>>

Ayup! That's the one.

<<I hope the ladies aged better than the car...>>

Oh, but doesn't the car look sporty? Wouldn't you love to have a convertible
like that... in the snow?

C.
Tifosi308 the Serial Number Geek - 23 Dec 2004 20:19 GMT
TigerRace1 wrote...

>Oh, but doesn't the car look sporty? Wouldn't you love to have a convertible
>like that... in the snow?

I was thinking the same thing.  I always thought a beachy scene would have been
better.  BTW, that reminds me, I'll have to find a link to the "330GTC Beach
Car".  It's another nightmare....

T308
TigerRace1 - 08 Dec 2004 21:17 GMT
<<Biancheria intima della nonna perhaps?>>

Mutandine della nonna.

C.
 
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